Attaching LED rope lights - Blu-ray Forum

VeryNew · 12-07-2009, 10:03 PM

I got the rope lights yesterday, but have no idea how to attach them to the back of our tv. The kit came with screws but I didn't really want to screw them on the tv, if there are better ways to do it.

How did you guys attach them to your tvs?

FRAK · 12-07-2009, 10:55 PM

I have a 6 foot ropelight attached to the back of my Kuro with these:

http://www.officeworld.com/Worlds-Bi...MMM17304/09Q1/

I picked them up at Target, and 4 of them hold the rope without a problem. I don't have pictures posted in my gallery of how it looks from the back, but you can see how the TV looks with lights glowing in the back.

Hope this helps!

xneox · 12-08-2009, 12:13 AM

I used this stuff:

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Automotive-.../dp/B000P16VZ2

Just used a bunch of 3"-4" strips around the perimeter. It holds it nice to the contour all the way around rather than a couple mounting points and an otherwise floppy rope. It took every last bit of TWO 6' lengths of rope light.

The cool thing is that it's the same color as the back of the tv (dark grey), so the only thing you see is the rope light.

I will say, though, that a couple of areas have let go of the rope...I just hit them with a little super glue and pressed 'em back on. Worked perfect.

VeryNew · 12-08-2009, 03:01 AM

Thanks for the help i actually use a combination of Frak and xneox and it worked great.

MovingPictureObsess · 12-08-2009, 03:35 AM

use an ideal-lume standard light from cinemaquest on the back of my Samsung. Great 6500k light.

Sonny · 12-08-2009, 03:40 AM

Double sided tape. Simple, quick, cheap and comes off without any problems.

VeryNew · 12-12-2009, 02:42 AM

how many 6' ropelighting can i pluged in to my AV receiver?

JBL4645 · 12-12-2009, 03:25 AM

Yeah who says it has to be just for once a year, Christmas decorations. I brought a blue LED lighting 100 LED for around £15.00 it has different combination patterns. Once x-mas is over I’ll take the tree and lights down but! I’ll look for new way of using the lights because they are so funky looking.

I’m thinking of getting another bunch and another bunch of LED lights and fixing them to some cable trunking?

Dill some small holes in the plastic that strips off then attach the LED so that when the other piece of plastic is snapped back into place the LED should stand upright!

I’ll then attach this to sidewalls and rear with smaller piece of plastic or MDF what ever to keep the light LED from being visible as single random row of lights. There should only be a whole colour that beams horizontally along/near to the ceiling and reflect off the pale walls.

I’d like to find a red LED and green LED of the same make so I can set the lights going more or less at the same time maybe not in sequence, as there may only be a few m/s delay.

I’ve got mine on slow delay at the moment. the first row starts up followed by the rest.

also you can get what is called I think a 3 or 4 segment LED where each LED can do three or four colours and with soldering skills you could make your own custom made display.

You’ll need a computerized lighting box no bigger than Bluray box only bit thicker. oh, yes. But unless you like soldering up hundreds of LED there are some kits already made that can do many colourful functions.

Alan Brown · 12-12-2009, 03:52 AM

Colored lights in a video viewing environment other than the D65 white of video will skew your color perception of the image on the screen. This makes it impossible to see a video image as it was intended by the program creator. If your top priority is picture quality and image fidelity, colored lights should be avoided while watching programs you care about looking their best.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1162578

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
A Lion AV Consultants Affiliate

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

Steve · 12-12-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeryNew

how many 6' ropelighting can i pluged in to my AV receiver?

I would recommend against plugging anything into the outlets on your receiver. Some manufacturers aren't even putting those on receivers any more.

Alan Brown · 12-12-2009, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman325

I would recommend against plugging anything into the outlets on your receiver. Some manufacturers aren't even putting those on receivers any more.

I don't know why you would say this shouldn't be done. This has been a regular convenience in entertainment systems for decades. Customers of my bias lighting products have plugged our fluorescent models into switched outlets on their AV Receivers for at least 10 years, with no problems. I have no hesitation recommending the practice as long as the wattage limitations of the outlets are not exceeded.

Steve · 12-12-2009, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Brown

I don't know why you would say this shouldn't be done. This has been a regular convenience in entertainment systems for decades. Customers of my bias lighting products have plugged our fluorescent models into switched outlets on their AV Receivers for at least 10 years, with no problems. I have no hesitation recommending the practice as long as the wattage limitations of the outlets are not exceeded.

No disrespect intended, but you're the first person I've EVER come across on this (or any other) forum who recommends the use of those outlets.

crazyBLUE · 12-12-2009, 11:25 PM

I personally would not plug anything into my receiver do to the fact that receivers create heat & get warm/hot & to me plugging something else into it would add to it . We all know heat is not A good thing for electronics anyways .

I may be wrong about this & correct me if I am but I would not do it myself .

Alan Brown · 12-12-2009, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman325

No disrespect intended, but you're the first person I've EVER come across on this (or any other) forum who recommends the use of those outlets.

I have been a home entertainment hobbyist for over 35 years. Subscribed to countless audio and video publications over all that time. Worked for 3 custom home theater design and installation companies. Run my own home theater company for over 11 years. Attended scores of manufacturer trainings and CEDIA courses of all kinds. This is the first incidence I've encountered of anyone expressing such cautions or encountering any negative consequences from using switched outlets on any residential electronics components.

Steve · 12-12-2009, 11:58 PM

I don't claim to be an expert in the field by any stretch of the imagination and you obviously have vastly more knowledge and experience than I do (and I promise I'm not being condescending when I say that), but in the receiver forums here and at AVS forums, I always see it recommended against. I must also add that I have no personal experience using the outlets, as neither receiver I've owned (only 2-an Onkyo 605 and Pioneer Elite SC-25) don't even have them. I'm only going on what I've read many times.

Thinking about it logically, I suspect that plugging in some simple ambience lights wouldn't be a big deal. I'm sure that would be a much easier load than plugging a subwoofer into one.

Alan Brown · 12-13-2009, 12:29 AM

As I mentioned earlier, the manufacturers recommend only a certain amount of wattage load. Speaking of experts....how about the people who actually design, build and support the gear? There is some good information on forums. I spend a lot of time on them myself. One thing is for sure, there is an ample supply of guesswork, misinformation, myths, and inane crap on forums as well. I would caution anyone on forums to realize that popular consensus can be a pitfall. Y2K, hope and change, or anthropogenic global warming anyone? A favorite quote of mine from H.L. Mencken is:

"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

Fors* · 12-13-2009, 11:56 AM

I will add that I like to keep my receiver running as efficiently as possible, it has enough to do with powering my speakers, along with tuning and processing the sound. I personally don't like adding any undue stress (no matter how small it may be) to my SC-05 than necessary, especially since I have an outlet right there in the wall, so I plug in my Cyron lighting into that wall outlet. Just my 2 pennies.....

Alan Brown · 12-13-2009, 06:38 PM

Using the switched outlets on a receiver is no different than using another outlet on the same room circuit that the receiver is plugged into. They are all wired in parallel, not series. The only function common in the receiver is the power switch. All other circuits within the receiver are separate from those switched, or in some cases, non-switched outlets.

anet99999 · 12-13-2009, 07:26 PM

I bought this 16"LED strip light at a local home improvement store to backlight my HDTV.

http://zilotek.com/led_striplight.htm

It appears to be perfectly adequate. I just need to devise a good way to affix it to the back of my TV. It comes with two mounting brackets and screws, but I'm obviously not going to screw them into the back of my TV. Any suggestions?

crazyBLUE · 12-13-2009, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anet99999

I bought this 16"LED strip light at a local home improvement store to backlight my HDTV.

http://zilotek.com/led_striplight.htm

It appears to be perfectly adequate. I just need to devise a good way to affix it to the back of my TV. It comes with two mounting brackets and screws, but I'm obviously not going to screw them into the back of my TV. Any suggestions?

Double sided adhesive tape will hold the mounting brackets to the back of the Display !

12-07-2009, 10:03 PM	#1
VeryNew Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Vancouver Home Theater Gallery:27	Attaching LED rope lights I got the rope lights yesterday, but have no idea how to attach them to the back of our tv. The kit came with screws but I didn't really want to screw them on the tv, if there are better ways to do it. How did you guys attach them to your tvs?

12-07-2009, 10:55 PM	#2
FRAK Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Mt. Juliet, TN Home Theater Gallery:3 4K collection:59 Blu-ray collection:1016 DVD collection:80 Trading Score:2	I have a 6 foot ropelight attached to the back of my Kuro with these: http://www.officeworld.com/Worlds-Bi...MMM17304/09Q1/ I picked them up at Target, and 4 of them hold the rope without a problem. I don't have pictures posted in my gallery of how it looks from the back, but you can see how the TV looks with lights glowing in the back. Hope this helps! Last edited by FRAK; 12-07-2009 at 11:07 PM.

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12-08-2009, 12:13 AM	#3
xneox Expert Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Hartford, CT	I used this stuff: http://www.amazon.com/3M-Automotive-.../dp/B000P16VZ2 Just used a bunch of 3"-4" strips around the perimeter. It holds it nice to the contour all the way around rather than a couple mounting points and an otherwise floppy rope. It took every last bit of TWO 6' lengths of rope light. The cool thing is that it's the same color as the back of the tv (dark grey), so the only thing you see is the rope light. I will say, though, that a couple of areas have let go of the rope...I just hit them with a little super glue and pressed 'em back on. Worked perfect.

12-08-2009, 03:01 AM	#4
VeryNew Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Vancouver Home Theater Gallery:27	Thanks for the help i actually use a combination of Frak and xneox and it worked great.

12-08-2009, 03:35 AM	#5
MovingPictureObsess Active Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Northeast US Blu-ray collection:137 DVD collection:10	use an ideal-lume standard light from cinemaquest on the back of my Samsung. Great 6500k light.

12-08-2009, 03:40 AM	#6
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	Double sided tape. Simple, quick, cheap and comes off without any problems.

12-12-2009, 02:42 AM	#7
VeryNew Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Vancouver Home Theater Gallery:27	how many 6' ropelighting can i pluged in to my AV receiver?

12-12-2009, 03:25 AM	#8
JBL4645 Banned Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Bournemouth, Dorset, UK Blu-ray reviews:1	Yeah who says it has to be just for once a year, Christmas decorations. I brought a blue LED lighting 100 LED for around £15.00 it has different combination patterns. Once x-mas is over I’ll take the tree and lights down but! I’ll look for new way of using the lights because they are so funky looking. I’m thinking of getting another bunch and another bunch of LED lights and fixing them to some cable trunking? Dill some small holes in the plastic that strips off then attach the LED so that when the other piece of plastic is snapped back into place the LED should stand upright! I’ll then attach this to sidewalls and rear with smaller piece of plastic or MDF what ever to keep the light LED from being visible as single random row of lights. There should only be a whole colour that beams horizontally along/near to the ceiling and reflect off the pale walls. I’d like to find a red LED and green LED of the same make so I can set the lights going more or less at the same time maybe not in sequence, as there may only be a few m/s delay. I’ve got mine on slow delay at the moment. the first row starts up followed by the rest. also you can get what is called I think a 3 or 4 segment LED where each LED can do three or four colours and with soldering skills you could make your own custom made display. You’ll need a computerized lighting box no bigger than Bluray box only bit thicker. oh, yes. But unless you like soldering up hundreds of LED there are some kits already made that can do many colourful functions.

12-12-2009, 03:52 AM	#9
Alan Brown Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:1	Colored lights in a video viewing environment other than the D65 white of video will skew your color perception of the image on the screen. This makes it impossible to see a video image as it was intended by the program creator. If your top priority is picture quality and image fidelity, colored lights should be avoided while watching programs you care about looking their best. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1162578 Best regards and beautiful pictures, Alan Brown, President CinemaQuest, Inc. A Lion AV Consultants Affiliate "Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

12-12-2009, 11:25 PM	#13
crazyBLUE Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Pacific Northwest Home Theater Gallery:89 Blu-ray collection:479 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:30	I personally would not plug anything into my receiver do to the fact that receivers create heat & get warm/hot & to me plugging something else into it would add to it . We all know heat is not A good thing for electronics anyways . I may be wrong about this & correct me if I am but I would not do it myself .

12-12-2009, 11:58 PM	#15
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	I don't claim to be an expert in the field by any stretch of the imagination and you obviously have vastly more knowledge and experience than I do (and I promise I'm not being condescending when I say that), but in the receiver forums here and at AVS forums, I always see it recommended against. I must also add that I have no personal experience using the outlets, as neither receiver I've owned (only 2-an Onkyo 605 and Pioneer Elite SC-25) don't even have them. I'm only going on what I've read many times. Thinking about it logically, I suspect that plugging in some simple ambience lights wouldn't be a big deal. I'm sure that would be a much easier load than plugging a subwoofer into one.

12-13-2009, 12:29 AM	#16
Alan Brown Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:1	As I mentioned earlier, the manufacturers recommend only a certain amount of wattage load. Speaking of experts....how about the people who actually design, build and support the gear? There is some good information on forums. I spend a lot of time on them myself. One thing is for sure, there is an ample supply of guesswork, misinformation, myths, and inane crap on forums as well. I would caution anyone on forums to realize that popular consensus can be a pitfall. Y2K, hope and change, or anthropogenic global warming anyone? A favorite quote of mine from H.L. Mencken is: "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

12-13-2009, 11:56 AM	#17
Fors* Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Pottstown, PA Home Theater Gallery:160 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:11	I will add that I like to keep my receiver running as efficiently as possible, it has enough to do with powering my speakers, along with tuning and processing the sound. I personally don't like adding any undue stress (no matter how small it may be) to my SC-05 than necessary, especially since I have an outlet right there in the wall, so I plug in my Cyron lighting into that wall outlet. Just my 2 pennies.....

12-13-2009, 06:38 PM	#18
Alan Brown Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:1	Using the switched outlets on a receiver is no different than using another outlet on the same room circuit that the receiver is plugged into. They are all wired in parallel, not series. The only function common in the receiver is the power switch. All other circuits within the receiver are separate from those switched, or in some cases, non-switched outlets.

12-13-2009, 07:26 PM	#19
anet99999 Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Wisconsin 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:565 DVD collection:14 Trading Score:9	I bought this 16"LED strip light at a local home improvement store to backlight my HDTV. http://zilotek.com/led_striplight.htm It appears to be perfectly adequate. I just need to devise a good way to affix it to the back of my TV. It comes with two mounting brackets and screws, but I'm obviously not going to screw them into the back of my TV. Any suggestions?

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