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Old 10-11-2007, 02:48 AM   #1
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According to an article called HDTV Q&A Volume 36 in ign.com they said that is better to buy a 720p plasma tv than a 1080p LCD tv is this true. This is the exact quote from ign.com.

"While matching 1080p material with a 1080p display sounds good, if the HDTV isn't larger than 50-inches, you can't see 1080p, and as such it's not worth the extra cost. All these peeps buying 40-inch 1080p LCDs instead of 40-inch 720p plasmas are making a mistake."

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Old 10-11-2007, 03:13 AM   #2
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Short answer:No.

Long Answer: It depends on how large your room is, how far away your seat is from the TV, whether or not you are actually watching 1080p content and how good your vision is.

I'm sick and tired of this FUD. It really depends on your vision and distance from the screen.

Whomever wrote that piece is obviously a plasma fanboy trying to get people to buy plasmas.

Looking at the context, they seem to be talking about video games which tend to be 720p anyway.

In a nutshell, 720p content will look basically the same on a 1080p display but 1080p content will look better on a 1080p display.

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Old 10-11-2007, 04:28 AM   #3
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Bollocks , even on one of my 24" computer monitors 1080p looks fantastic and I can see the difference (For example National Geographic's Relentless Enemies has a 720 trailer)
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:40 AM   #4
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The general rule is that at <50" your going to have to be quite close to the screen to see the extra details. When you get up to projector size the added lines are vital because details are blown up so big.

If you have a 24" screen showing 1080p, your nose is right up to the screen so you might still see the differences. At around 40", I would say 6 feet is going to be the distance where your eyes start losing focus on detail.

In the UK, a TV that is 768 costs £400 to £2000, where as 1080p TV's start off at about £1100 and go up to £2500+. If you take Sony's entries, the KDL40D3000 (768) is about £800 less than its nearest 1080p rival at the same size. Thats quite a hike for something that you have to ask a question about.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:43 AM   #5
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if you can see a differents thats all that matters, I have plazzy's but im no fanboy, its just what I like & I get a beautiful picture, but its the same with my 32"720p LCD I would not buy a 1080p 32" LCD as the PQ is as good I can see.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:11 AM   #6
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According to an article called HDTV Q&A Volume 36 in ign.com they said that is better to buy a 720p plasma tv than a 1080p LCD tv is this true. This is the exact quote from ign.com.

"While matching 1080p material with a 1080p display sounds good, if the HDTV isn't larger than 50-inches, you can't see 1080p, and as such it's not worth the extra cost. All these peeps buying 40-inch 1080p LCDs instead of 40-inch 720p plasmas are making a mistake."

http://gear.ign.com/articles/826/826348p1.html
Idiots!! I swear these days I'm losing credibility in IGN for making stupid-ass judgements lately. 40" 1080p makes a good difference between 720p. My girlfriend has a 32" 720p LCD and we regret for not spending the extra money to get the 32" 1080p Sharp LCD. Live action movies look more grainier watching in 720p compare to 1080p and watching it on my TV just looks more vivid, sharper & detail. Though 32" won't be as noticable but anything larger, 1080p makes a difference.

About the 720p Plasma, my cousin has a 42" Panasonic Plasma, after they seen my LCD, they wished they got a 1080p LCD instead... One good thing about Plasma is that they are more affordible compare to LCDs...

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Old 10-11-2007, 05:27 AM   #7
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Idiots!! I swear these days I'm losing credibility in IGN for making stupid-ass judgements lately. 40" 1080p makes a good difference between 720p. My girlfriend has a 32" 720p LCD and we regret for not spending the extra money to get the 32" 1080p Sharp LCD. Live action movies look more grainier watching in 720p compare to 1080p and watching it on my TV just looks more vivid, sharper & detail. Though 32" won't be as noticable but anything larger, 1080p makes a difference.

About the 720p Plasma, my cousin has a 42" Panasonic Plasma, after they seen my LCD, they wished they got a 1080p LCD instead... One good thing about Plasma is that they are more affordible compare to LCDs...
Thanks & you should of spent the etc $$$ on a bigger TV 37 40 42 inch thats something to regret, 50"1080p plazzy's are NOT that much cheaper than LCD's
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:10 AM   #8
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how about just buy what you can afford at the time, or just save up for what you want?

I'm just entering the arena of HD, and have to admit that a 1080p 42" plasma would have been better than a 720p 42" plasma, BUT, I didn't have an extra $1000, and a $1000 is a lot of money to me.

Trust me, I'll be plenty satisfied with what I purchased for at least 4-5 years, and by the end of that time, 50" 1080p plasma televisions will be at the price that I paid for the 42" plasma. OR, there may be something entirely different that comes out.

who knows.

what I do know is that I do consider myself to be somewhat of a videophile, but I don't need to stick my nose up to the screen to appreciate what BD affords me. I'm quite comfortable on my couch.

then again, who can argue with someone who demands the best.

not i round eye.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:02 PM   #9
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Bollocks , even on one of my 24" computer monitors 1080p looks fantastic and I can see the difference (For example National Geographic's Relentless Enemies has a 720 trailer)
? Deci are you English?
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:53 PM   #10
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If it's 50 inches and under, get 720p. If you're sitting 6 feet back or so (and most people would be) you will not be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I paid about $400-500 less than I would have if I had gotten the 40" 1080p Samsung. I used the extra money to buy a Blu-ray player (Playstation 3). And now I can play Blu-ray movies where otherwise I couldn't have afforded it.
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:47 PM   #11
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I thought this at one point too because I read the same thing in a home theater magazine. I had a Samsung 720P 42" DLP and when I bought the PS3 I wasn't all that impressed with the way a blu-ray looked. It looked nothing like the 1080P Sony Circuit City was using (not calibrated of course, but still looked better). Long story short, I sold the 42" Samsung and bought a Sony 40" 1080P. I felt a lot better about my investment after that. Blu-Ray movies look fantastic.
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:55 PM   #12
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I thought this at one point too because I read the same thing in a home theater magazine. I had a Samsung 720P 42" DLP and when I bought the PS3 I wasn't all that impressed with the way a blu-ray looked. It looked nothing like the 1080P Sony Circuit City was using (not calibrated of course, but still looked better). Long story short, I sold the 42" Samsung and bought a Sony 40" 1080P. I felt a lot better about my investment after that. Blu-Ray movies look fantastic.
As long as you enjoy it & can afford it does not matter what HDTV you own , as long as you are happy dont be botherd with everybodys opinion. You see, what you see.
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:58 PM   #13
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Exactly the point to my story. I am sure I would have been just as happy with a Samsung or any other TV for that matter. I only went with Sony because all of my other components are Sony.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:49 PM   #14
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If it's 50 inches and under, get 720p. If you're sitting 6 feet back or so (and most people would be) you will not be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I paid about $400-500 less than I would have if I had gotten the 40" 1080p Samsung. I used the extra money to buy a Blu-ray player (Playstation 3). And now I can play Blu-ray movies where otherwise I couldn't have afforded it.
Please stop trying to justify your purchase with quotes from the internet. I actually have 40" 1080p display in my apartment and so I'm speaking from experience with 1080i and 1080p content.

I'm able to see the grain on 1080 content with my 40" display that I was missing on my old 30" 720p display. There is also a distinct difference in appearance between a 720p game or trailer and 1080p content.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:15 PM   #15
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many home theater magazines do side by side comparisons and use testing equipment and all say the same thing anything under 50inchs 1080p and 1080i are indistinguishable at more then six feet.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:42 PM   #16
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I have a 40” Sony and you can see the difference between 1080p and 720p straight away 720 is not as clear and you can see it.
My bother has a Pioneer PDP-507XD which shows 1080p at 24fps but only has a 1,365 x 768 srceen and even he says the it looks better on my 40”
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:11 PM   #17
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many home theater magazines do side by side comparisons and use testing equipment and all say the same thing anything under 50inchs 1080p and 1080i are indistinguishable at more then six feet.
Testing equipment? There is no testing equipment that can tell you whether a human can distinguish the difference at 6 feet. Why is 50" the magical number? I seriously doubt they use equipment to test this but rather people either in need of a eye wear prescription or an out of date prescription while watching 720p or 1080p content with an effective resolution of 720p (bad encode/master).
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:07 AM   #18
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yes everyone here is calling BS



my tv i have,game system wise..surpasses plasma's picture


and about movie's its about the same,just that i paid less money and use less power!
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:13 AM   #19
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I have Samsung 40 1080p its not bad
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:58 AM   #20
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I guess I must have been one of the first to purchase a hdtv plasma and the price I could afford at the tima was for a 720p display. After that day so much water has gone under the river and I can now tell Lcd looks better than plasma at 42inches if compared 720p vs 720p, Now I've been amazed by pioner's and samsung's new models for plasma42" 1080p.

However, this improvement can't make me forget of some of the most important factors I as a longtime user of a plasma display have encounter. Lcd 40" gives you more comfort in power source and the fact that it enables you to still play videogames and play movies without worries.

Something I AM really concerned about is whether Lcd tvs can do what my tv current philips plasma can. which is the ability to eliminate black bars at the bottom or top, as well as in the sides even when a movie comes with that annoying format(for some). Can lcds let you choose to get rid of those black bars of the format of movies? is it what 2/3 pulldown is all about?
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