PS3 Hooked up with HDMI signal loss - Blu-ray Forum

Hayashi · 10-23-2007, 07:17 AM

Just wondering if anyone else has a ps3 hooked up with HDMI if it cuts out in between things. Like if i start a blu-ray it will say no signal for a few seconds then go to the movie. Is this just how it is or possible a hookup problem?

Thanks

swifty7 · 10-23-2007, 07:57 AM

mine sometimes cuts off from 1 to 3 seconds during a movie, it really pisses me off when it does that, I wonder if there's a solution to it like turning the ps3 on before turning on the tv or vice versa.

FilmmakingFiasco · 10-23-2007, 08:08 AM

I have the same problem as you Swifty (on a Sony KDS-60A2000).

There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to when it happens either.

Hayashi · 10-23-2007, 08:49 AM

mine just happen when its about to start something or im exiting something. like if i start a movie or a game.

richieb1971 · 10-23-2007, 09:59 AM

I am not completely sure but I believe its to do with resolution changes.

Boss Hogg · 10-23-2007, 11:24 AM

It does this because of HDMI "handshake" issues - each HDMI piece of equipment needs to "shake hands" with eachother. The amount of time needed to do this depends on each individual component and typically older equipment is slower. Although if it is handshake issues it should be only/primarily on startup, not in the middle of a movie. Do you have any other equipment in the mix - like a stereo receiver perhaps?

dannyjl · 10-23-2007, 11:35 AM

I'm having a wierd problem also with my PS3 connected to an Onkyo 605 via hdmi cable - when I turn off the tv the sound from sacd's cuts out. I gotta have the dang tv on to listen to music. I have a hdmi sending the video out from the 605 to my Sony tv. I posted this in another forum and someone also suggested handshake problems.

X400 · 10-23-2007, 12:56 PM

If your losing signal in the middle of a movie its probably your HDMI cable id replace it.
ive read other ppl having the SACD issue with PS3 and Onkyo i guess they dont mix well with one another

on another note how's the "popping" dannyjl? im in the market for a receiver and ive been lookin at the 605 but i heard it "pops" a lot even during a movie??

Hayashi · 10-23-2007, 05:42 PM

its not in the middle only when i start it or if i end the movie. or if i start a game and quit the game. It also happens sometimes when i start an extra feature on movies.

TJ1072 · 11-20-2007, 10:52 PM

I have a tricky HDMI issue with my PS3, please bare with me as this is hard to explain. I'll do my best.

To start, PS3's video using HDMI direct to TV (Sharp Aquos). PS3's Audio using Optical to Yamaha Receiver. I can play all movies so far through HDMI fine with sound and everything. Games however I only get a screen flicker or no picture at all. Almost like it tries to constantly connect but never can. The main screen is fine and shows 1080i, but as soon as the game loads and goes to 720P it flickers. I have one game that will play in 1080i and it seems to work. So it seems to be a 720p issue nearest I can tell. Remember 720p works fine with blu-ray movies though.

If I do a reset (hold the on button for 5-7 secs.) it will auto detect the presence of HDMI and I choose 'Yes'. Now it will display everything perfectly just like it should, but no sound because it has also auto selected HDMI for my audio as well. So, as soon as I change the settings in my PS3 to use the optical for audio, I once again go back to a flickering screen for games only. Mind boggling to say the least huh? I have tried 3 different cables and all are the same result. So for now, component it is. I'd like to use the HDMI though because when it does work, it's noticeably better.

Icemage · 11-20-2007, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ1072

I have a tricky HDMI issue with my PS3, please bare with me as this is hard to explain. I'll do my best.

To start, PS3's video using HDMI direct to TV (Sharp Aquos). PS3's Audio using Optical to Yamaha Receiver. I can play all movies so far through HDMI fine with sound and everything. Games however I only get a screen flicker or no picture at all. Almost like it tries to constantly connect but never can. The main screen is fine and shows 1080i, but as soon as the game loads and goes to 720P it flickers. I have one game that will play in 1080i and it seems to work. So it seems to be a 720p issue nearest I can tell. Remember 720p works fine with blu-ray movies though.

If I do a reset (hold the on button for 5-7 secs.) it will auto detect the presence of HDMI and I choose 'Yes'. Now it will display everything perfectly just like it should, but no sound because it has also auto selected HDMI for my audio as well. So, as soon as I change the settings in my PS3 to use the optical for audio, I once again go back to a flickering screen for games only. Mind boggling to say the least huh? I have tried 3 different cables and all are the same result. So for now, component it is. I'd like to use the HDMI though because when it does work, it's noticeably better.

Have you tried hooking your PS3 directly to your TV via HDMI? If I had to, I'd guess that your problem is in your receiver.

You need to find a permanent solution for this because there are quite a few games out there that won't internally upscale to 1080i/p from 720p.

TJ1072 · 11-20-2007, 11:16 PM

My PS3 hooks directly to my TV. The Audio only hooks to my receiver via Optical.

Icemage · 11-20-2007, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ1072

My PS3 hooks directly to my TV. The Audio only hooks to my receiver via Optical.

Mmm... sounds like an HDMI handshaking issue then. I don't think the problem is on the PS3 side - more than likely your TV isn't recognizing the 720p correctly from the PS3.

Hard to test unless you've got another HDTV or PS3 handy to test with (do you have any good friends with 720p HDTVs? Try taking your PS3 over to their house, set it up, and restrict it to 720p output over HDMI while running a Blu-ray and again with a PS3 game).

Component may be your only option if the above test indicates the PS3 is sending a 720p signal correctly, since the only other piece that can be screwing up is your TV.

TJ1072 · 11-20-2007, 11:37 PM

I'll try and give that a whirl. However, 720p and 1080i work perfectly fine if I play a blu-ray movie rather than a game.

Icemage · 11-21-2007, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ1072

I'll try and give that a whirl. However, 720p and 1080i work perfectly fine if I play a blu-ray movie rather than a game.

Could be a bandwidth issue. 720p in a game is typically 60 frames per second. Blu-rays are typically 24 frames per second. Maybe your TV hardware fails at higher FPS or something?

SavagePotato · 11-21-2007, 01:34 AM

My Ps3 loses video when it transitions from the media bar to either game, dvd, or blu ray. It hasn't ever cut out mid playback or in any games.

Another guy at work got the same tv, same cables from the same place, and a ps3, his does the same thing.

The TV in question is a samsung 5084 plasma.

I would assume the video signal dropping when switching is normal for it. Only reason i know it happens is because the hdmi source indicator comes up with the searching for signal box for about 2 seconds when it transitions off the media bar.

generalhawk · 11-21-2007, 01:52 AM

If you got a Samsung before august then you will have hand shake issues. I return my LCD, because they said they needed to change the motherboard and the firmware.

TJ1072 · 11-21-2007, 04:05 AM

Ice, thanks for the replies. I'll look into the frame rate thing. Who knows. Sony said they want to advance it to one more level and then they will replace the PS3. They seem to think it's something in the HDMI chipset or something like that.

mastertang · 11-21-2007, 04:19 AM

My fix: I went to system settings for hdmi (or display) output and turned off 1080 as a resolution option when warhawk would not play video for me. I have a samsung lcd and that solved all my problems. If your TV is only displays an actual 720p picture, 1080 has no use to you at this time. Hope that helps.

BluHavik · 11-21-2007, 08:05 AM

I have a Sammy LNT32-53, I get the No Signal screen when I exit the xmb. This isn't that big of deal, the PS3 is sending a signal for the xmb, then you go to a game/movie. It stops sending a signal and it's 2 or 3 seconds before it picks up on the new signal. Sorry to sound like a party pooper, but you complain about a 2 or 3 second delay? Like someone above said, it's probably cause of the handshake, so what get rid of that? Cause that shake is what keeps fox on our side..

10-23-2007, 07:17 AM	#1
Hayashi Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Hawaii	PS3 Hooked up with HDMI signal loss Just wondering if anyone else has a ps3 hooked up with HDMI if it cuts out in between things. Like if i start a blu-ray it will say no signal for a few seconds then go to the movie. Is this just how it is or possible a hookup problem? Thanks

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10-23-2007, 07:57 AM	#2
swifty7 Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:3	mine sometimes cuts off from 1 to 3 seconds during a movie, it really pisses me off when it does that, I wonder if there's a solution to it like turning the ps3 on before turning on the tv or vice versa.

10-23-2007, 08:08 AM	#3
FilmmakingFiasco Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Minneapolis, MN Blu-ray collection:297 Trading Score:17	I have the same problem as you Swifty (on a Sony KDS-60A2000). There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to when it happens either.

10-23-2007, 08:49 AM	#4
Hayashi Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Hawaii	mine just happen when its about to start something or im exiting something. like if i start a movie or a game.

10-23-2007, 09:59 AM	#5
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	I am not completely sure but I believe its to do with resolution changes.

10-23-2007, 11:24 AM	#6
Boss Hogg Active Member Member since:Dec 2006	It does this because of HDMI "handshake" issues - each HDMI piece of equipment needs to "shake hands" with eachother. The amount of time needed to do this depends on each individual component and typically older equipment is slower. Although if it is handshake issues it should be only/primarily on startup, not in the middle of a movie. Do you have any other equipment in the mix - like a stereo receiver perhaps?

10-23-2007, 11:35 AM	#7
dannyjl Active Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:New Orleans Blu-ray collection:386 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:10	I'm having a wierd problem also with my PS3 connected to an Onkyo 605 via hdmi cable - when I turn off the tv the sound from sacd's cuts out. I gotta have the dang tv on to listen to music. I have a hdmi sending the video out from the 605 to my Sony tv. I posted this in another forum and someone also suggested handshake problems.

10-23-2007, 12:56 PM	#8
X400 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Kent Blu-ray collection:328 Blu-ray reviews:41 Trading Score:23	If your losing signal in the middle of a movie its probably your HDMI cable id replace it. ive read other ppl having the SACD issue with PS3 and Onkyo i guess they dont mix well with one another on another note how's the "popping" dannyjl? im in the market for a receiver and ive been lookin at the 605 but i heard it "pops" a lot even during a movie??

10-23-2007, 05:42 PM	#9
Hayashi Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Hawaii	its not in the middle only when i start it or if i end the movie. or if i start a game and quit the game. It also happens sometimes when i start an extra feature on movies.

11-20-2007, 10:52 PM	#10
TJ1072 New Member Member since:Nov 2007	I have a tricky HDMI issue with my PS3, please bare with me as this is hard to explain. I'll do my best. To start, PS3's video using HDMI direct to TV (Sharp Aquos). PS3's Audio using Optical to Yamaha Receiver. I can play all movies so far through HDMI fine with sound and everything. Games however I only get a screen flicker or no picture at all. Almost like it tries to constantly connect but never can. The main screen is fine and shows 1080i, but as soon as the game loads and goes to 720P it flickers. I have one game that will play in 1080i and it seems to work. So it seems to be a 720p issue nearest I can tell. Remember 720p works fine with blu-ray movies though. If I do a reset (hold the on button for 5-7 secs.) it will auto detect the presence of HDMI and I choose 'Yes'. Now it will display everything perfectly just like it should, but no sound because it has also auto selected HDMI for my audio as well. So, as soon as I change the settings in my PS3 to use the optical for audio, I once again go back to a flickering screen for games only. Mind boggling to say the least huh? I have tried 3 different cables and all are the same result. So for now, component it is. I'd like to use the HDMI though because when it does work, it's noticeably better.

11-20-2007, 11:16 PM	#12
TJ1072 New Member Member since:Nov 2007	My PS3 hooks directly to my TV. The Audio only hooks to my receiver via Optical.

11-20-2007, 11:37 PM	#14
TJ1072 New Member Member since:Nov 2007	I'll try and give that a whirl. However, 720p and 1080i work perfectly fine if I play a blu-ray movie rather than a game.

11-21-2007, 01:34 AM	#16
SavagePotato Active Member Member since:Jul 2007	My Ps3 loses video when it transitions from the media bar to either game, dvd, or blu ray. It hasn't ever cut out mid playback or in any games. Another guy at work got the same tv, same cables from the same place, and a ps3, his does the same thing. The TV in question is a samsung 5084 plasma. I would assume the video signal dropping when switching is normal for it. Only reason i know it happens is because the hdmi source indicator comes up with the searching for signal box for about 2 seconds when it transitions off the media bar.

11-21-2007, 01:52 AM	#17
generalhawk Member Member since:Mar 2007	If you got a Samsung before august then you will have hand shake issues. I return my LCD, because they said they needed to change the motherboard and the firmware.

11-21-2007, 04:05 AM	#18
TJ1072 New Member Member since:Nov 2007	Ice, thanks for the replies. I'll look into the frame rate thing. Who knows. Sony said they want to advance it to one more level and then they will replace the PS3. They seem to think it's something in the HDMI chipset or something like that.

11-21-2007, 04:19 AM	#19
mastertang Active Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 3	My fix: I went to system settings for hdmi (or display) output and turned off 1080 as a resolution option when warhawk would not play video for me. I have a samsung lcd and that solved all my problems. If your TV is only displays an actual 720p picture, 1080 has no use to you at this time. Hope that helps.

11-21-2007, 08:05 AM	#20
BluHavik Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:STL Blu-ray collection:32	I have a Sammy LNT32-53, I get the No Signal screen when I exit the xmb. This isn't that big of deal, the PS3 is sending a signal for the xmb, then you go to a game/movie. It stops sending a signal and it's 2 or 3 seconds before it picks up on the new signal. Sorry to sound like a party pooper, but you complain about a 2 or 3 second delay? Like someone above said, it's probably cause of the handshake, so what get rid of that? Cause that shake is what keeps fox on our side..

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