Need an explanation

[thrlride]

Can someone please explain to me why I cannot play sound through my TV and stereo at the same time from my PS3?

I can't always use the stereo when I watch a movie so if I want to hear sound I have to go in to the settings of my PS3 and change the sound output to RCA. When I can play it through the surround sound then I have to go back to the settings and switch it to optical. My receiver nor my TV have HDMI so it may work with that, I have no idea...

It's really a hassle though and is inexcusable. My PS2 did it, my xbox did it and my 360 as well as my regular DVD player does it.

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by thrlride

Can someone please explain to me why I cannot play sound through my TV and stereo at the same time from my PS3?

I can't always use the stereo when I watch a movie so if I want to hear sound I have to go in to the settings of my PS3 and change the sound output to RCA. When I can play it through the surround sound then I have to go back to the settings and switch it to optical. My receiver nor my TV have HDMI so it may work with that, I have no idea...

It's really a hassle though and is inexcusable. My PS2 did it, my xbox did it and my 360 as well as my regular DVD player does it.

What i am guessing is that sony really wanted to give the consumer the ultimate experiance in Hi Def. I do agree with you.

[bdrex28]

Why would you want to?

Do you not have a surround system?

I'm just curious, not knocking it at all.

[jbuttler007]

What about a receiver with HDMI passthrough?

[thrlride]

Originally Posted by bdrex28

Why would you want to?

Do you not have a surround system?

I'm just curious, not knocking it at all.

I do have surround sound. I have the optical from the PS3 plugged in to that and the RCA from the PS3 to the TV. I cannot use the surround sound all the time and when I don't I'd rather not have to go to the menu of the PS3 and switch the output format.

Originally Posted by jbuttler007

What about a receiver with HDMI passthrough?

I have no idea but I'm sure that probably works. I could probably use the pass-thru on my receiver as well I just didn't want to configure it that way since I haven't had to in the past.

[CYMBOL]

I made a thread about this months ago. (I ended up getting no answers and most of the people thought I needed a professional installer cause I didn't know how to set up my system.)

Here was my post.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ht=malfunction

Hello all,

My PS3 malfunctioned the other day and man, I wish it would stay. Wondering if anybody else has/had this issue.

Basically, when I bought my PS3 I was discovered that I had to select HDMI (hooked into my T.V) or Optical through my receiver (the only way I can get DD/DTS - since my receiver doesn't have an HDMI hookup). Ok fine. But I had to choose one or the other, meaning I either had to use my receiver or my T.V. only.

I called Sony and asked if a future update would fix this. I explained that I didn't like having to go into the menu everytime I wanted to listen to a certain source. Heck, my old DVD player can be connect to two different audio sources and depending on which one I turn on (my T.V. or reciever) I hear sound. They said, "This is a hardware issue and there are no future plans as of this time to change this; however, they do understand my concern". Annoyingly short-sighted, if you ask me. Seems like a basic function.

Now then, the other day, all of a sudden - sound came out of my T.V. I turned on my receiver and sound was working fine from there too! Then, later it went away. It happened again a few weeks later and lasted half the day. I would love if this malfunction could stay. I don't always want a Home Theater experience everytime I play a game, and I don't want to have to go into the sound menu before every game/movie.

Anyone else had this experience or been able to find a work-around. Very curious.

(And as a side-note, the other day my Homecourt NBA played in DTS.) Strange.

Take it easy all,

My thread was "PS3 malfunction I'd like to keep". It went nowhere - just people arguing over what I meant. (I thought it was pretty clear).

Anyway, I still have times when all of a sudden sound works from my T.V. without the HDMI source being chosen. I don't have a HDMI receiver - so for now I"m stuck with this. But even if I did have a HDMI receiver - I don't want to have to turn on my receiver everytime I want sound out of my T.V.

This is a hassle and from my response from the PS3 reps - it can not be fixed.

[Iceman_II]

I could very well be wrong, but it may have something to do with how the signal is processed for output. Most standalones are hardware driven, but the PS3 is all about the software and the clock cycles, by not processing the signal for the non-used output, it may save processing power? It could also be that if you are outputing to TosLink a format that the RCA can't handle, such as bitstream, the RCA goes silent... have you tried setting it up for TosLink with two channel stereo? Not sure if it will work, but if you strip it down to the least common denominator, it may work.

When mixing and matching audio outputs, strange things happen, when I have the computer hooked up to speakers, it works fine, but when I hook up via TosLink to the Stereo, I loose the ability to control volume at the PC, the output becomes a line out, rather than a pre-amp out.

But you really have to admit, most people would not be playing audio over both the optical AND the RCA. As for this being "inexcusable"? Just a wee bit of a hyperbole isn't it?

[GamingPhantom]

the only thing that I did is use a y-adapter one goes into the tv and the other into my stereo.

[thrlride]

Originally Posted by Iceman_II

But you really have to admit, most people would not be playing audio over both the optical AND the RCA. As for this being "inexcusable"? Just a wee bit of a hyperbole isn't it?

True, most people would not play optical and RCA at the same time but I don't know another way to explain it. If my receiver is off the PS3 should still send signal through toslink and RCA. My real complaint is that it doesn't.

If it is truly a software issue that cannot be fixed then fine but if it is an oversight or a bug then I want it fixed because it tarnishes my experience.

For me, my $600 ps3 not doing something a $129 ps2 can do is inexcusable when it is pretty much standard these days.

[thrlride]

Originally Posted by GamingPhantom

the only thing that I did is use a y-adapter one goes into the tv and the other into my stereo.

That would work but I use toslink to my receiver.

[Branden]

i feel your pain, thrlride.
i've got HDMI to the TV and toslink to my cheapy surround system, i would love to be able to get audio pumping out of both simultaneously. i don't believe it's a harware issue since it has "malfunctioned" a couple times to me. from what i can figure (and from what i've read elsewhere) it's a glitch that happens depending on what order you turn stuff off and back on again, and possibly what the PS3 was doing before it was turned off previously.
heck, last time it happened i left the PS3 on for about a week straight just to keep it "malfunctioning".
once i get a proper receiver with HDMI (and passthru) i won't care anymore, but it would be nice for sony to include this in a firmware update sometime.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by thrlride

That would work but I use toslink to my receiver.

Use the Y splitter on the analog cable (L/R audio plug) and buy a LONG L/R stereo audio cable. That way you have audio coming through your receiver and TV at the same time. That is what you want, right (sound through both devices)? That way you still have the optical cable still plugged into your receiver for the better sound during movies. All you have to do is switch your software settings on the PS3 when you want to watch movies (and change your input on your receiver). That should be a pretty simple solution.

[thrlride]

I guess I am confused, sorry.

I'm splitting the RCA cable from the PS3 and sending it to the receiver as well as the optical?

[phranctoast]

I still dont uderstand why anyone would want audio from both the TV and the reciever.

The 5.1 signal is now coming from the front and you no longer can decipher the sound as it was meant to be heard.

Sony was right for not incuding a way to ruin the sound experience.

If sometimes you dont want to hear the audio from all angles, you can hit a button on your reciever and select stereo.

[bubs]

Why would you want sound from both your TV speakers and your surround system at the same time?

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by thrlride

I guess I am confused, sorry.

I'm splitting the RCA cable from the PS3 and sending it to the receiver as well as the optical?

In other words, don't touch your optical cable. Just split the composite cable and send it to your receiver AND your TV. Then, just switch (with your receiver) to the composite input.

When you want better sound for movies, just switch the input on your receiver and PS3 to the optical input/output.

[CYMBOL]

See, I don't have RCA cables from my PS3 - I have HDMI to my T.V. (For Pic and sound) and optical to my receiver - for home theater.

I don't want them to play "at the same time" - what I want is to be able to turn on the "source" and have sound come out without having to go into the PS3 sub-menus to change it.

If I turn on my T.V. - sound should come out.
If I turn on my receiver - sound should come out.

I have audio running to both, but the PS3 makes me choose just one.

I don't want to use RCA cables.

Hope that clears things up for you all.

And, as I mentioned before - my PS3 "malfunctions" and sometimes plays from my T.V. through my HDMI cable, even though "optical" is selected. It comes and goes. Wish it would stay - cause I don't always want to use my home theater for sound, but I'm forced to go and change it to HDMI to listen through my T.V. and then switch back when I want to hear it through my home theater. Very annoying.

[Terjyn]

Guitar Hero 3 gives me audio lag through my receiver and not through my TV speakers, so I can definitely relate to this problem.

[J6P]

Originally Posted by bubs

Why would you want sound from both your TV speakers and your surround system at the same time?

He doesn't. It is a sound level issue in his home. Sometimes, if you don't live a great big old house or out in the middle of a big chunk of land, you have to worry about these pesky things called "neighbors". Or the even more dreaded "light-sleeping roommate". He wants (Toslink) surround sound for normal viewing times, and the option to hear the movie through only the (RCA) television speakers when he would otherwise be disturbing others. And he wonders why he has to delve into the PS3 menu and change settings to do this.

I think the most logical hypothesis about why this isn't possible on the PS3 is the decoding issue, but I don't know for sure. The simplest solution might be finding your "RCA Audio Out" on the back of your receiver and connecting that to the TV. Leave the PS3 in Toslink mode at all times, and just turn the receiver down and the tv up when you want to keep things quiet.

[thrlride]

thank you for explaining my issues, that perfectly reflects the reasons I had intended to convey.