Blu/DVD Flippers! WTF?!?!

[GGX]

Originally Posted by blu/razor

you're all wrong. its benicio del toro's character from the ususal suspects. he'll flip ya for real.

Ahaha!

[wharf]

Originally Posted by sfmarine

A waste of time and money. The thing I hate most about them is they can scratch so easily.

Don't both sides have the protective coating?

[jw]

Originally Posted by wharf

Don't both sides have the protective coating?

Looking at the Disc, it appears the DVD side looks normal...Its hard to tell honestly.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by jwbbud

Looking at the Disc, it appears the DVD side looks normal...Its hard to tell honestly.

Isn't a flipper basically a DVD and BD glued together? The DVD side is most likely just like any DVD.

[hidef al]

Originally Posted by wharf

Don't both sides have the protective coating?

I don't think the dvd side has the protective coating...just the blu-ray side.

[randy8118]

Originally Posted by Joe Molotov

Or half the movie on one side and the other half on the other. Those DVD-10s were truely an abomination.

Just be glad you never watched a laser disc where you had to flip the disc and then change the disc to watch side 3. CAV laser discs were even worse and had to be changed/flipped every 30 minutes.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by randy8118

Just be glad you never watched a laser disc where you had to flip the disc and then change the disc to watch side 3. CAV laser discs were even worse and had to be changed/flipped every 30 minutes.

Yep, those were the good old days

[bogo5]

Originally Posted by sfmarine

A waste of time and money. The thing I hate most about them is they can scratch so easily.

If thats the case I agree, Love BD's scratch proof over poverty dvd.

[Crimson King]

Originally Posted by XXXsdesdeXXX

i.e. Robin Hood Prince of Thieves......

Or the first DVD releases of GoodFellas, Prime Suspect 1 and 2, Gone With The Wind, Amadeus (theatrical cut) and Ben Hur. Al had the film spread over two sides of the DVD.

[RadThad]

Originally Posted by BillyJack

Or the first DVD releases of GoodFellas, Prime Suspect 1 and 2, Gone With The Wind, Amadeus (theatrical cut) and Ben Hur. Al had the film spread over two sides of the DVD.

I almost threw up in my mouth the when I watched that Goodfellas. I wanted to just throw the disc in the trash. You would think a release like that would be embarrassing to a studio.

[Vorhees13]

Originally Posted by RadThad

I almost threw up in my mouth the when I watched that Goodfellas. I wanted to just throw the disc in the trash. You would think a release like that would be embarrassing to a studio.

I agree. I think I watched mine once becasue I felt this was a step back when the technology was still new. At least with a VHS I did not have to flip it over.

[wvl]

Originally Posted by Steve

In what regard? Is the blu-ray version of a movie on a flipper inferior in some way to the version found on a regular blu-ray?

Howz about the quality and the longevity of the disc? We don't know the answer to the ladder as of yet.

I still think separating the two is a better way to go.

[wvl]

Originally Posted by randy8118

Just be glad you never watched a laser disc where you had to flip the disc and then change the disc to watch side 3. CAV laser discs were even worse and had to be changed/flipped every 30 minutes.

Not to mention after a few plays, the laser disc would go bad due to the two layers separating.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by Alpha

Just treat the DVD side as the top

Very good point!

[drtre81]

Honestly they probably use flippers instead of separate dvds to combat resells of the dvd.

[steve_dave]

Actually, its so that Universal can discontinue pressing the DVD only for catalog titles. The premise is that by pressing a BD/DVD combo, it is more cost effective in the long run.

Especially since interest in those catalog titles on DVD is dwindling. By offering a BD and a "future proof" format, Uni can continue to market catalog titles. Otherwise some titles will go out of print due to cost.

And the flipper format is going to have a much higher resale value since it has the BD side.

[Berting]

I hate flipper discs. My experience with the DVD flippers, is that one side is usually quite scratched, or incredibly dirty, and that is always the side I want to play. So far I have avoided BD/DVD flipper discs.

[drtre81]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Actually, its so that Universal can discontinue pressing the DVD only for catalog titles. The premise is that by pressing a BD/DVD combo, it is more cost effective in the long run.

Especially since interest in those catalog titles on DVD is dwindling. By offering a BD and a "future proof" format, Uni can continue to market catalog titles. Otherwise some titles will go out of print due to cost.

And the flipper format is going to have a much higher resale value since it has the BD side.

I was talking about people buying blurays that come with the dvd version, such as Avatar and selling the dvd.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by drtre81

I was talking about people buying blurays that come with the dvd version, such as Avatar and selling the dvd.

Your thread title says "I may have figured out why flippers are really used."

Flippers are the term used by Universal for their BD/DVD combos on a single disc. If you were referring to the BD and DVD sets that have two discs then you want to say combo packs.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Your thread title says "I may have figured out why flippers are really used."

Flippers are the term used by Universal for their BD/DVD combos on a single disc. If you were referring to the BD and DVD sets that have two discs then you want to say combo packs.

You still misunderstand drtre81's post--he's saying he thinks the studio would like to stop the resell of DVDs that come in combo packs, not the sale of years-old DVDs when people upgrade their titles to BD, so rather than releasing combo packs, they're going with dual-sided discs rather than combos.