Plasma Break In Period?? - Blu-ray Forum

link_of_hyrule · 04-25-2010, 05:03 PM

Just bought the Samsung PN58B850 and was wondering about the break-in period. I would like to start enjoying my TV now and not have to wait 100 hrs..
Q...if I only watch 16:9 content, with no static images and no black bars, etc...do I need to break it in? There will be no static content, therefore nothing to burn in, right? Am I right?

Buddy Christ · 04-25-2010, 05:10 PM

SHENANIGAN'S

That is a myth. Just get your Display (hate to call them TV's anymore) calibrated and you're off!!

Have fun but the 300 you spend to get it professionally calibrated is worth it IMO

link_of_hyrule · 04-25-2010, 05:13 PM

Hey Thanks

Have it professionally calibrated? Can't I do the same thing with just adjusting/playing with all the settings?

Buddy Christ · 04-25-2010, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by link_of_hyrule

Hey Thanks

Have it professionally calibrated? Can't I do the same thing with just adjusting/playing with all the settings?

Sure you can like I did at first but as you become a more serious enthusiast you want it to look the best as is intended

Bur in and break in are often confused

b00st · 04-26-2010, 04:53 PM

breakin discs all the phosphers to age the same and display the same color as opposed to any other content. when the screen is all white, the blue, red, green, grey, etc etc. this allows for maximum display consistancy and allows for a better calibration IMO.

SDon1969 · 04-26-2010, 04:55 PM

I got a 50" plasma a couple weeks ago and I have not been worrying at all about break-in. I watch whatever I want (ESPN vertical bars, 2.35:1 horizontal bars, sports tickers, console games) and I am not having any issues whatsoever.

Pelican170 · 04-26-2010, 05:08 PM

I have a plasma and did a break in period for about 10 hrs or so. I do alot of gaming and movie watching and I have no problems with "Burn in". I do see some image retention which is common and goes away the second something else goes on the screen. I would say your fine and start enjoying...

Rebel6666 · 04-26-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SDon1969

I got a 50" plasma a couple weeks ago and I have not been worrying at all about break-in. I watch whatever I want (ESPN vertical bars, 2.35:1 horizontal bars, sports tickers, console games) and I am not having any issues whatsoever.

The reason you don't have any problems with your Panny is because they break all their TV's now before shipping them. My salesman went to a covention and the Panny reps told them that they do it for all their models, a 100 hours If I recall correctly.

sadmaker · 04-27-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebel6666

The reason you don't have any problems with your Panny is because they break all their TV's now before shipping them. My salesman went to a covention and the Panny reps told them that they do it for all their models, a 100 hours If I recall correctly.

What type of content do they use? Did he say?

Rebel6666 · 04-27-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sadmaker

What type of content do they use? Did he say?

Nope but he was meeting them tomorrow and I asked him to ask some questions for me let you know

link_of_hyrule · 04-28-2010, 01:19 AM

going back to my initial point - if I never expose the TV to any static images, a break in period - even if set to TORCH mode - would not be necessary, am I correct?

acleftguard76 · 04-28-2010, 08:24 AM

Dude, break-in periods are normal for Plasma panels, and here's why: When a plasma panel is manufactured, phosphoric dust is sprayed onto the electrode panel. Over time, the electrical charge given off the electrodes harden that phosphoric dust. Your break-in period is the period in which that dust hardens. I have a PN58B860 (virtually the same panel as you) and have been watching it for well over two months now and FINALLY am not noticing retained images after a period of up to a minute. What I do to help my panel is I went to this website, http://www.webapalooza.com/plasma/ and downloaded his slides and play them on my panel via a small thumb drive. I set my sleep timer and let it run in a slideshow until the timer goes out. I love what it does for my screen.

link_of_hyrule · 04-28-2010, 11:27 AM

Thanks
I went to the site and downloaded the software.
May I ask your picture settings before and after the breakin period?

acleftguard76 · 04-29-2010, 05:05 AM

Good, I hope it works for you the same as it has for me. In fact, its running on my TV right now! Yeah, I'll give you my settings, no problem.

--Picture menu
Mode: Movie
Cell Light: 10
Contrast: 84
Brightness: 54
Sharpness: 0
Color: 54
Tint: G50/R50

Advanced settings submenu
Black tone: Off
Dynamic contrast: Off
Gamma: 0
Color space: Auto
Flesh tone: 0
Edge enhancement: Off
xvYCC: Off

White balance submenu
R-Offset: 24
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 25
R-Gain: 29
G-Gain: 20
B-Gain: 19

Picture options submenu
Color tone: Warm2
Size: Screen Fit or 16x9
Digital NR: Off
HDMI black level: Normal [grayed out]
1080 Full HD Motion Demo: Off
Film mode: Auto1*
Blue only mode: Off

*Auto1 setting is for any of my sources that are not 1080/24p...in this case I use the Cinema Smooth setting.

These are settings that I made using my calibration equipment here in the home. I work for an A/V dealer (not Best Buy) and I have the optic sensor, the Spears and Munsil test patterns disc and the software to interpret it all.

If there is anything else I can do for you, just let me know. Enjoy!

thePope666 · 04-29-2010, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by link_of_hyrule

Just bought the Samsung PN58B850 and was wondering about the break-in period. I would like to start enjoying my TV now and not have to wait 100 hrs..
Q...if I only watch 16:9 content, with no static images and no black bars, etc...do I need to break it in? There will be no static content, therefore nothing to burn in, right? Am I right?

I have the exact same TV and I waited almost 300hrs to have it calibrated. the pro iSF tech that did mine recommended a minimum of 150hrs.

thecardman23 · 04-29-2010, 12:53 PM

i noticed a bunch of you mention that you have samsung plasma b850+ model tvs. thats also one im looking at picking up. given that youve had it for a while.. how is the performance on it? notice any loss of blacks like the 09 pannys? also during the 100 hours im suppose to be 'breaking it in' before calibrating.. what settings am i suppose to use, the default ones? one of the preset modes.. ie: echo, movie?

acleftguard76 · 04-30-2010, 05:18 AM

Yeah, man, for the break-in I have used the color images from this website http://www.webapalooza.com/plasma/ and I run it for three hours at the end of every night. Until that point, I was just using the standard movie mode on my TV. When the slide show runs, I have the TV set to run its hottest torch mode...helps it break in faster by running the TV harder. Be sure you get a warranty with it.

Grif32 · 04-30-2010, 11:23 AM

"Break-in" will not prevent IR or Burn-in. The reason for Break-in period is to age your set faster to get it calibrated. If you don't want to get it calibrated there is ZERO reason to do the Break-in slides.

Just enjoy your TV.

link_of_hyrule · 04-30-2010, 01:20 PM

Thanks for the settings - I do prefer Standard Mode, though - Movie mode seems too dull...
Q: How do you log your hours? Does the TV have some sort of memory or just pen and paper??

link_of_hyrule · 04-30-2010, 01:21 PM

I also notice when the screen is completely black, it is not 100% uniform - see some wide bands of various degress of darkeness - is this normal?

04-25-2010, 05:03 PM	#1
link_of_hyrule Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Toronto	Plasma Break In Period?? Just bought the Samsung PN58B850 and was wondering about the break-in period. I would like to start enjoying my TV now and not have to wait 100 hrs.. Q...if I only watch 16:9 content, with no static images and no black bars, etc...do I need to break it in? There will be no static content, therefore nothing to burn in, right? Am I right?

04-28-2010, 01:19 AM	#11
link_of_hyrule Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Toronto	break in period if no static images going back to my initial point - if I never expose the TV to any static images, a break in period - even if set to TORCH mode - would not be necessary, am I correct?

04-29-2010, 05:05 AM	#14
acleftguard76 Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Missoula, MT 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:76 Blu-ray reviews:2	Good, I hope it works for you the same as it has for me. In fact, its running on my TV right now! Yeah, I'll give you my settings, no problem. --Picture menu Mode: Movie Cell Light: 10 Contrast: 84 Brightness: 54 Sharpness: 0 Color: 54 Tint: G50/R50 Advanced settings submenu Black tone: Off Dynamic contrast: Off Gamma: 0 Color space: Auto Flesh tone: 0 Edge enhancement: Off xvYCC: Off White balance submenu R-Offset: 24 G-Offset: 25 B-Offset: 25 R-Gain: 29 G-Gain: 20 B-Gain: 19 Picture options submenu Color tone: Warm2 Size: Screen Fit or 16x9 Digital NR: Off HDMI black level: Normal [grayed out] 1080 Full HD Motion Demo: Off Film mode: Auto1* Blue only mode: Off Auto1 setting is for any of my sources that are not 1080/24p...in this case I use the Cinema Smooth setting. These are settings that I made using my calibration equipment here in the home. I work for an A/V dealer (not Best Buy) and I have the optic sensor, the Spears and Munsil test patterns disc and the software to interpret it all. If there is anything else I can do for you, just let me know. Enjoy! Last edited by acleftguard76; 04-29-2010 at 05:07 AM.*

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04-25-2010, 05:10 PM	#2
Buddy Christ Power Member Member since:Aug 2009 Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:142 Blu-ray reviews:7	SHENANIGAN'S That is a myth. Just get your Display (hate to call them TV's anymore) calibrated and you're off!! Have fun but the 300 you spend to get it professionally calibrated is worth it IMO

04-25-2010, 05:13 PM	#3
link_of_hyrule Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Toronto	Hey Thanks Have it professionally calibrated? Can't I do the same thing with just adjusting/playing with all the settings?

04-26-2010, 04:53 PM	#5
b00st Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:73 Blu-ray collection:59	breakin discs all the phosphers to age the same and display the same color as opposed to any other content. when the screen is all white, the blue, red, green, grey, etc etc. this allows for maximum display consistancy and allows for a better calibration IMO.

04-26-2010, 04:55 PM	#6
SDon1969 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Massachusetts Home Theater Gallery:32 Blu-ray collection:745 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I got a 50" plasma a couple weeks ago and I have not been worrying at all about break-in. I watch whatever I want (ESPN vertical bars, 2.35:1 horizontal bars, sports tickers, console games) and I am not having any issues whatsoever.

04-26-2010, 05:08 PM	#7
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	I have a plasma and did a break in period for about 10 hrs or so. I do alot of gaming and movie watching and I have no problems with "Burn in". I do see some image retention which is common and goes away the second something else goes on the screen. I would say your fine and start enjoying...

04-28-2010, 08:24 AM	#12
acleftguard76 Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Missoula, MT 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:76 Blu-ray reviews:2	Dude, break-in periods are normal for Plasma panels, and here's why: When a plasma panel is manufactured, phosphoric dust is sprayed onto the electrode panel. Over time, the electrical charge given off the electrodes harden that phosphoric dust. Your break-in period is the period in which that dust hardens. I have a PN58B860 (virtually the same panel as you) and have been watching it for well over two months now and FINALLY am not noticing retained images after a period of up to a minute. What I do to help my panel is I went to this website, http://www.webapalooza.com/plasma/ and downloaded his slides and play them on my panel via a small thumb drive. I set my sleep timer and let it run in a slideshow until the timer goes out. I love what it does for my screen.

04-28-2010, 11:27 AM	#13
link_of_hyrule Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Toronto	Thanks I went to the site and downloaded the software. May I ask your picture settings before and after the breakin period?

04-29-2010, 12:53 PM	#16
thecardman23 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Toronto, Canada Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:1787 Blu-ray reviews:34 Trading Score:239	i noticed a bunch of you mention that you have samsung plasma b850+ model tvs. thats also one im looking at picking up. given that youve had it for a while.. how is the performance on it? notice any loss of blacks like the 09 pannys? also during the 100 hours im suppose to be 'breaking it in' before calibrating.. what settings am i suppose to use, the default ones? one of the preset modes.. ie: echo, movie?

04-30-2010, 05:18 AM	#17
acleftguard76 Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Missoula, MT 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:76 Blu-ray reviews:2	Yeah, man, for the break-in I have used the color images from this website http://www.webapalooza.com/plasma/ and I run it for three hours at the end of every night. Until that point, I was just using the standard movie mode on my TV. When the slide show runs, I have the TV set to run its hottest torch mode...helps it break in faster by running the TV harder. Be sure you get a warranty with it.

04-30-2010, 11:23 AM	#18
Grif32 Expert Member Member since:Oct 2007 Trading Score:1	"Break-in" will not prevent IR or Burn-in. The reason for Break-in period is to age your set faster to get it calibrated. If you don't want to get it calibrated there is ZERO reason to do the Break-in slides. Just enjoy your TV.

04-30-2010, 01:20 PM	#19
link_of_hyrule Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Toronto	Thanks for the settings - I do prefer Standard Mode, though - Movie mode seems too dull... Q: How do you log your hours? Does the TV have some sort of memory or just pen and paper??

04-30-2010, 01:21 PM	#20
link_of_hyrule Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Toronto	I also notice when the screen is completely black, it is not 100% uniform - see some wide bands of various degress of darkeness - is this normal?

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