Vengeance Trilogy, from Alliance. - Blu-ray Forum

TwelveMind · 08-08-2010, 11:03 PM

I have been keeping a close-eye on Park Chan Wook's Vengeance Trilogy Set for the longest time. I would have pulled the trigger if not for Palisades Tartan's enormous mess-up and their current unethical handling of the situation, or lack thereof.

In the set, the Oldboy disc is missing 7.1 TrueHD audio. In place is a lossy 5.1 track, and this is despite 7.1 listed as spec on the back cover. I was browsing through Amazon.ca today and stumbled upon the following...

http://www.amazon.ca/Vengeance-Trilo...1308142&sr=1-3

Listed as October 5, 2010 release. Scroll down and it has Alliance Films listed as the distributor. I don't know. I feel scared and excited at the same time. Here's hoping the Oldboy audio problem is fixed, and that everything else is on par with Palisades Tartan.

For those who have already purchased the P-Tartan set from Amazon.ca, how's the Oldboy audio? Can someone verify whether 7.1 has been put back or is the problem still unfixed? Thanks.

Rhylliam · 08-09-2010, 01:16 AM

My guess is that it will be a direct port of the US set...

TwelveMind · 12-14-2010, 09:20 AM

Anyone got this? It's now available from amazon.ca and I would love to find out if the audio for Oldboy has been corrected. Also, whether the whole set is on par with the U.S. release. Thanks in advance.

KarmaNL · 12-14-2010, 02:09 PM

Did they remove the region lock for all discs ? please let it be true

TwelveMind · 12-18-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KarmaNL

Did they remove the region lock for all discs ? please let it be true

Someone posted an update in the main thread. I hate to deliver bad news but apparently it's limited to region 1, which is essentially Alliance talk for region A.

jaayhimself · 12-18-2010, 05:59 PM

Oldboy is only a single disc in the alliance package, but is the same Disc one from the original 2-disc Tartan release. It does have the 7.1 dtsma track

TwelveMind · 12-18-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jaayhimself

Oldboy is only a single disc in the alliance package, but is the same Disc one from the original 2-disc Tartan release. It does have the 7.1 dtsma track

Well, not exactly the same disc one. It retains the 7.1 sound but it also has all of the extra features which were previously on a separate disc.

Leshita · 12-25-2010, 11:02 AM

Posted in the deals section but will do here again in case anyone misses it ($19.99 currently):

http://www.amazon.ca/Vengeance-Trilo...1308142&sr=1-3

Boxing Week, currently out-of-stock but it will ship when they get more stock (hopefully).

djesteban · 01-11-2011, 05:41 AM

Anyone has more info about this boxset please?!
I am wondering if it's the same transfer than the U.S. Tartan trilogy boxset... Anyone can confirm?!

Thanks in advance

pro-bassoonist · 01-11-2011, 05:57 AM

We will have a review up tomorrow night.

Pro-B

Alkaline · 01-11-2011, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by djesteban

Anyone has more info about this boxset please?!
I am wondering if it's the same transfer than the U.S. Tartan trilogy boxset... Anyone can confirm?!

Thanks in advance

There's good info in this thread. Seems to be an exact port of the U.S. set with identical A/V, except it includes the DTS MA track for Oldboy absent on the U.S. set.

ImportFanatic · 01-16-2011, 02:28 AM

Do these have the Alliance logo play upon disc startup or does it still play the Palisades Tartan one? Just curious how much of an port these are.

pro-bassoonist · 01-16-2011, 03:13 AM

The Palisades Tartan logo is definitely present (I must check though if it is on each release).

Pro-B

Rhylliam · 01-16-2011, 03:59 AM

I'm certain it would have the Alliance logo(s) as well. For the past couple years they have not just been taking the US disc & placing different packaging on a release (they did this for a long time, & never even bothered to change packaging during the HD DVD days).

They tend to create a new disc entirely, with Alliance preview trailers etc, so they likely gather all data from another source & meld it with their own stuff (7.1 track for Oldboy in this case).

Vauba · 01-17-2011, 08:16 PM

Wasn't the US release supposed to be corrected to include the lossless mix for Oldboy? What happened with that?

TheBoss062 · 04-24-2018, 03:19 AM

Really enjoyed this blu-ray set of the vengeance trilogy. While the OOP Palisades Tartan set is prettier as a blu-ray set, this one is more practical especially as it has the corrected lossless audio for Oldboy.

I think it's probably the best version of these movies on blu-ray.

TheBoss062 · 04-08-2020, 05:02 AM

Update: so Arrow video has now released their own version of the Vengeance trilogy, with new bonus features and a 4K remaster of Oldboy. Anybody here have it?

Surge92 · 04-08-2020, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBoss062

Update: so Arrow video has now released their own version of the Vengeance trilogy, with new bonus features and a 4K remaster of Oldboy. Anybody here have it?

It's been out for a while. I have it. There was initially a LE box set designed to look like the infamous elevator from Oldboy that sold out. It was followed by a standard box set reissue. I've only see Oldboy from the set so far, and it looks fantastic.

darkness2918 · 04-08-2020, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBoss062

Update: so Arrow video has now released their own version of the Vengeance trilogy, with new bonus features and a 4K remaster of Oldboy. Anybody here have it?

I have the stand alone Oldboy release from Arrow (don't like Lasdy Vengeance too much so didn't want the trilogy) & it looks great. Here are the special features on Arrow's Oldboy:

SPECIAL EDITION CONTENTS

Brand new 4K restoration from the original camera negative supervised by director Park Chan-wook
High Definition Blu-ray (1080p) presentation
Original 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio and 2.0 stereo
Original Korean and English soundtracks
Music and effects track
Newly translated, optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing for the English soundtrack
Newly translated English subtitles for the Korean soundtrack
Audio commentary with director Park Chan-wook
Audio commentary with Park Chan-wook and cinematographer Jung Jung-hoon
Audio commentary with Park Chan-wook, and actors Choi Min-sik, Yu Ji-tae, Kang Hye-jung
Audio commentary by Film critic Shin Hyung-chul
Audio commentary by Film critic Kim Young-jin
Old Days: An Oldboy Story, acclaimed feature-length 2016 documentary about Park Chan-wook's masterpiece
New introduction to the film by director Park Chan-wook
Film Critics on Oldboy, featurette with Oh Dong-jin, Lee Dong-jin, Darcy Paquet and Chris Fujiwara
Filmmakers on Oldboy, featurette with Directors Kim Jee-woon and Ryoo Seung-wan
Photographer of Time, an interview with stills photographer Han Se-jun
Autobiography of Oldboy, a three-and-a-half-hour video diary of the making of Oldboy
Deleted scenes with optional director commentary
Behind the scenes featurettes
Extensive cast and crew interviews
The Making of Oldboy, lengthy two-part featurette on the film s production
Le Grand Prix at Cannes, featurette about the film s success at the 2004 film festival
Bring My Love music video by Starsailor, using clips of the film
Trailers, teasers and TV spots
Image gallery
Reversible sleeve featuring original and newly commissioned artwork by Justin Erickson
FIRST PRESSING ONLY: Fully illustrated collectors booklet with full credits and with new writing by Simon Abrams

TheBoss062 · 04-08-2020, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by darkness2918

I have the stand alone Oldboy release from Arrow (don't like Lasdy Vengeance too much so didn't want the trilogy) & it looks great. Here are the special features on Arrow's Oldboy:

SPECIAL EDITION CONTENTS

Brand new 4K restoration from the original camera negative supervised by director Park Chan-wook
High Definition Blu-ray (1080p) presentation
Original 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio and 2.0 stereo
Original Korean and English soundtracks
Music and effects track
Newly translated, optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing for the English soundtrack
Newly translated English subtitles for the Korean soundtrack
Audio commentary with director Park Chan-wook
Audio commentary with Park Chan-wook and cinematographer Jung Jung-hoon
Audio commentary with Park Chan-wook, and actors Choi Min-sik, Yu Ji-tae, Kang Hye-jung
Audio commentary by Film critic Shin Hyung-chul
Audio commentary by Film critic Kim Young-jin
Old Days: An Oldboy Story, acclaimed feature-length 2016 documentary about Park Chan-wook's masterpiece
New introduction to the film by director Park Chan-wook
Film Critics on Oldboy, featurette with Oh Dong-jin, Lee Dong-jin, Darcy Paquet and Chris Fujiwara
Filmmakers on Oldboy, featurette with Directors Kim Jee-woon and Ryoo Seung-wan
Photographer of Time, an interview with stills photographer Han Se-jun
Autobiography of Oldboy, a three-and-a-half-hour video diary of the making of Oldboy
Deleted scenes with optional director commentary
Behind the scenes featurettes
Extensive cast and crew interviews
The Making of Oldboy, lengthy two-part featurette on the film s production
Le Grand Prix at Cannes, featurette about the film s success at the 2004 film festival
Bring My Love music video by Starsailor, using clips of the film
Trailers, teasers and TV spots
Image gallery
Reversible sleeve featuring original and newly commissioned artwork by Justin Erickson
FIRST PRESSING ONLY: Fully illustrated collectors booklet with full credits and with new writing by Simon Abrams

How many of these extras are both new and exclusive to the Arrow set?

Also, if you’re a Park Chan-wook fan (like me) then I don’t see a reason not to get the whole trilogy if you can play it.

08-08-2010, 11:03 PM	#1
TwelveMind Active Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 4K collection:189 Blu-ray collection:1888	Vengeance Trilogy, from Alliance. I have been keeping a close-eye on Park Chan Wook's Vengeance Trilogy Set for the longest time. I would have pulled the trigger if not for Palisades Tartan's enormous mess-up and their current unethical handling of the situation, or lack thereof. In the set, the Oldboy disc is missing 7.1 TrueHD audio. In place is a lossy 5.1 track, and this is despite 7.1 listed as spec on the back cover. I was browsing through Amazon.ca today and stumbled upon the following... http://www.amazon.ca/Vengeance-Trilo...1308142&sr=1-3 Listed as October 5, 2010 release. Scroll down and it has Alliance Films listed as the distributor. I don't know. I feel scared and excited at the same time. Here's hoping the Oldboy audio problem is fixed, and that everything else is on par with Palisades Tartan. For those who have already purchased the P-Tartan set from Amazon.ca, how's the Oldboy audio? Can someone verify whether 7.1 has been put back or is the problem still unfixed? Thanks. Last edited by TwelveMind; 08-08-2010 at 11:14 PM.

12-14-2010, 09:20 AM	#3
TwelveMind Active Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 4K collection:189 Blu-ray collection:1888	it's finally here... Anyone got this? It's now available from amazon.ca and I would love to find out if the audio for Oldboy has been corrected. Also, whether the whole set is on par with the U.S. release. Thanks in advance.

08-09-2010, 01:16 AM	#2
Rhylliam Contributor Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Calgary, Alberta Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:1500 Blu-ray collection:9011 DVD collection:9466 Blu-ray reviews: 49 Trading Score:109	My guess is that it will be a direct port of the US set...

12-14-2010, 02:09 PM	#4
KarmaNL Power Member Member since:May 2010 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:78 Blu-ray collection:96 Trading Score:2	Did they remove the region lock for all discs ? please let it be true

12-18-2010, 05:59 PM	#6
jaayhimself Junior Member Member since:Apr 2009	Oldboy is only a single disc in the alliance package, but is the same Disc one from the original 2-disc Tartan release. It does have the 7.1 dtsma track

12-25-2010, 11:02 AM	#8
Leshita Senior Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Vancouver, BC Blu-ray collection:248 Trading Score:12	Posted in the deals section but will do here again in case anyone misses it ($19.99 currently): http://www.amazon.ca/Vengeance-Trilo...1308142&sr=1-3 Boxing Week, currently out-of-stock but it will ship when they get more stock (hopefully).

01-11-2011, 05:41 AM	#9
djesteban Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Canada	Anyone has more info about this boxset please?! I am wondering if it's the same transfer than the U.S. Tartan trilogy boxset... Anyone can confirm?! Thanks in advance

01-11-2011, 05:57 AM	#10
pro-bassoonist Blu-ray reviewer Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:X Home Theater Gallery:47 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 31 Trading Score:23	We will have a review up tomorrow night. Pro-B

01-16-2011, 02:28 AM	#12
ImportFanatic Expert Member Member since:Jul 2010 Location:United States Blu-ray collection:489 DVD collection:3	Do these have the Alliance logo play upon disc startup or does it still play the Palisades Tartan one? Just curious how much of an port these are.

01-16-2011, 03:13 AM	#13
pro-bassoonist Blu-ray reviewer Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:X Home Theater Gallery:47 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 31 Trading Score:23	The Palisades Tartan logo is definitely present (I must check though if it is on each release). Pro-B

01-16-2011, 03:59 AM	#14
Rhylliam Contributor Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Calgary, Alberta Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:1500 Blu-ray collection:9011 DVD collection:9466 Blu-ray reviews: 49 Trading Score:109	I'm certain it would have the Alliance logo(s) as well. For the past couple years they have not just been taking the US disc & placing different packaging on a release (they did this for a long time, & never even bothered to change packaging during the HD DVD days). They tend to create a new disc entirely, with Alliance preview trailers etc, so they likely gather all data from another source & meld it with their own stuff (7.1 track for Oldboy in this case).

01-17-2011, 08:16 PM	#15
Vauba Member Member since:Sep 2009 Blu-ray collection:47	Wasn't the US release supposed to be corrected to include the lossless mix for Oldboy? What happened with that?

04-24-2018, 03:19 AM	#16
TheBoss062 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2016 Location:Florida 4K collection:379 Blu-ray collection:2075 MA collection:519 Digital collection:171 Blu-ray reviews:47	Really enjoyed this blu-ray set of the vengeance trilogy. While the OOP Palisades Tartan set is prettier as a blu-ray set, this one is more practical especially as it has the corrected lossless audio for Oldboy. I think it's probably the best version of these movies on blu-ray.

04-08-2020, 05:02 AM	#17
TheBoss062 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2016 Location:Florida 4K collection:379 Blu-ray collection:2075 MA collection:519 Digital collection:171 Blu-ray reviews:47	Update: so Arrow video has now released their own version of the Vengeance trilogy, with new bonus features and a 4K remaster of Oldboy. Anybody here have it?

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