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Old 09-23-2010, 06:23 PM   #21
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My favourite part of that article,

"Microsoft is trying very hard to market the Xbox 360 to a more casual audience."

There you have it. Microsoft now views their console as more of a product to replace the Wii now that it is beginning to lose steam. So, that leaves Sony as the only company who views their console as a powerhouse for EVERY demographic and not just the semi-coordinated 10 year old potty mouths across the globe!

Could this be the first step towards Sony claiming victory in the console war much the same way that Blu-ray was able to claim victory over HD DVD?
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:41 PM   #22
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Its interesting that gaming consoles were used in a format war. I think it was the first and last time. I remember back in the format wars attachment rates were everything. The thing that hit Xbox down was that it never had a HD-DVD drive built in.(thank god)
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:52 PM   #23
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I'm sorry but the streaming of Netflix on the XBOX360 doesn't compare to the video or audio quality on a blu ray. So, he can preach all he wants that you can get HD through the XBOX but the quality doesn't even compare.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:54 PM   #24
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:08 PM   #25
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Funniest post I've seen in a while. I'm still laughing!
You're welcome.

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Old 09-23-2010, 10:29 PM   #26
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Boy, there are sure a lot of people that get fired up about Sony vs. Microsoft (Xbox). I read the article and didn't think it was all that bad. The online services that MS has are pretty nice. The Netflix streaming was available a long time before stand alone players, or tvs had it, I think. Same thing for PS3, had one of the first affordable BD players in it. Things are evening up though as the technology ages. Obviously MS is going to downplay Sony's advantage with BD, big woop.
Each company and each system offer a slightly different flavor of the same type of entertainment. Preferring one over the other doesn't mean the opposite one is junk.
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Old 09-24-2010, 01:14 AM   #27
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I'm assuming that he doesn't see why Blu-ray has become the sole high definition format of this generation. Besides, I don't see myself filling up my hard drive with HD movies to keep.

I guess some people just couldn't let go of the past.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:31 AM   #28
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My favourite part of that article,

"Microsoft is trying very hard to market the Xbox 360 to a more casual audience."

There you have it. Microsoft now views their console as more of a product to replace the Wii now that it is beginning to lose steam. So, that leaves Sony as the only company who views their console as a powerhouse for EVERY demographic and not just the semi-coordinated 10 year old potty mouths across the globe!

Could this be the first step towards Sony claiming victory in the console war much the same way that Blu-ray was able to claim victory over HD DVD?
I'm not really interested in the console war but right now it really belongs to the Wii. However the PS3 is playing a good catchup with the new controller that I saw on tv the other day - nice, reminds me of the Wii controller. I believe that will help introduce the PS3 to the demographic that the Wii captured. Off topic, I still have a relic from the war - as most of you know I was purple, but I discovered today that my BH-200 can internally decode TrueHD 5.1 and output it as LPCM 7.1 now that was a nice leftover from the war!
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:34 PM   #29
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Microsoft executive says,” Who needs Blu-ray?”

http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comm...needs-blu-ray/
I bet you he has a blu-ray player in his house though, enjoys watching bds and wet his underwear to the tune of DTS-HD Master Audio.
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:14 AM   #30
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I'm sorry but the streaming of Netflix on the XBOX360 doesn't compare to the video or audio quality on a blu ray. So, he can preach all he wants that you can get HD through the XBOX but the quality doesn't even compare.
Quite right, King. Typically, online streaming is 1080i with 5.1 DD sound. How is that equivalent to 1080p with 7.1 lossless audio? For those who can't tell the difference, let them watch streamed movies (and pray their connection isn't interrupted). As for me and my house, we will watch Blu-ray!
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Old 09-25-2010, 03:56 PM   #31
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You can tell when the holiday buying season is upon us. Because that's when these sort of moronic articles seem to flourish. In my opinion, the story is just a diversion. Look how a lot of blogs pick up and run with these type stories, usually previous HD DVD suporters for those who have been around long enough to remember.

Soon Blu-ray will be celebrating another million plus discs sales record with the release of Iron Man 2, and bitter opponents will still talk the same trash about there's no future in Blu-ray.

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Old 09-25-2010, 04:13 PM   #32
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You can tell when the holiday buying season is upon us. Because that's when these sort of moronic articles seem to flourish. In my opinion, the story is just a diversion. Look how a lot of blogs pick up and run with these type stories, usually previous HD DVD suporters for those who have been around long enough to remember.

Soon Blu-ray will be celebrating another million plus discs sales record with the release of Iron Man 2, and bitter opponents will still talk the same trash about there's no future in Blu-ray.
You think these blogs and stories are amusing, you should read some of the hilarity at HDD's Smackdown Forum. Apparently Blu-ray players are now bought exclusively for Netflix streaming.
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Old 09-26-2010, 08:28 AM   #33
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You think these blogs and stories are amusing, you should read some of the hilarity at HDD's Smackdown Forum. Apparently Blu-ray players are now bought exclusively for Netflix streaming.
Wow, that's pretty face-palm worthy.

I do hear some pretty silly stuff over at a banned site that gives fake sales numbers that are pretty bad as well.
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Old 09-26-2010, 12:42 PM   #34
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I didn't buy an Xbox 360 in part b/c of MS shenanigans during the format war.

Just this second, hearing the latest garbage comments from this braindead exec, I've decided to extend my boycott to MS's next Xbox too. I used to love Xbox (original) so really MS should have been able to reach me and get some cash outta me at least in the next console gen.

Not anymore.

You just blew it, MS -- you, your dumb exec and your misguided taste for crappy bitstarved video streams.

To Microsoft I say: SUCK IT!. I hereby solemnly swear you won't get a penny out of me for the entire next games console generation. Just like this generation but unlike the last one. I'm not being doctrinaire about this. I really would've bought in. But you BLEW IT!

That's a promise. And with the $$ I'll have saved by not buying your next console and games, I'll buy more Blu-rays. Nyaahhh nyyahhhh nyahhhh.



PS.

The Daily Telegraph website is now carrying the story too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...executive.html
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:19 PM   #35
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Boy, there are sure a lot of people that get fired up about Sony vs. Microsoft (Xbox). I read the article and didn't think it was all that bad. The online services that MS has are pretty nice. The Netflix streaming was available a long time before stand alone players, or tvs had it, I think. Same thing for PS3, had one of the first affordable BD players in it. Things are evening up though as the technology ages. Obviously MS is going to downplay Sony's advantage with BD, big woop.
Each company and each system offer a slightly different flavor of the same type of entertainment. Preferring one over the other doesn't mean the opposite one is junk.
this is not a 360 vs PS3 battle. It is making fun of a stupid PR move. Obviously the guy couldn't do anything else but spin, but it is a joke to anyone that knows anything.

In the end it does not make sense for MS to add BD on the 360 and so they have to pretend it does not exist on the PS3. The thing that makes it ridiculous is taht BD is far superior to NEtflix streaming and saying they have BD but we have Netflix is a joke because the PS3 can do both. As to your facts, you are wrong. The 360 was the first of the consoles with Netflix but standalone and some BD players did have it first, but that is immaterial because someone looking at consoles now does not care how many months before it was added to the PS3 or Wiii it was added to the 360.

IN the end it is way too far in this generations life and the cost would be too great for MS to try and add BD playback, and since it would need to be an add-on, it would probably not sell that well either, so MS (like the Wii) is stuck.
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Old 09-26-2010, 04:16 PM   #36
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MS isn't about making a quality, leading edge product. They are about manufacturing piss poor quality and shoving it out the door. Oh, we fixed it with the "beta chip".. no wait, we fixed it with the "eagle chip II".. no, that didn't work, we fixed it with the "farrett^2 chip" This is a great strategy, we can sell 4 consoles to 1 gamer as they get invested in and can't turn back.


360 games from day one have had content removed and catered around fitting on such a limited physical media (This isn't coming from me but actual developers of 360 games). MS had a choice but they chose to produce the only console in the history of gaming to not evolve in the storage medium despite games getting bigger every day.
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Old 09-26-2010, 04:17 PM   #37
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You think these blogs and stories are amusing, you should read some of the hilarity at HDD's Smackdown Forum. Apparently Blu-ray players are now bought exclusively for Netflix streaming.
LOL, I'm going to have to visit again, its been quite some time. I imagine Lee Stewart, GizmoDVD and Mike M and a few others who used to constantly spread BS are still at it.

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Old 09-26-2010, 10:11 PM   #38
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MS had a choice but they chose to produce the only console in the history of gaming to not evolve in the storage medium despite games getting bigger every day.
Even though I agree that it sucks and that it affects game play, they did not really have a choice. The 360 came out in 2005 before HD DVD and BD launched. There was no way they could have included a next generation optical drive in the 360.
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Old 09-26-2010, 10:31 PM   #39
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LOL, I'm going to have to visit again, its been quite some time. I imagine Lee Stewart, GizmoDVD and Mike M and a few others who used to constantly spread BS are still at it.
Don't forget Taffy and Malanthius
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Old 09-26-2010, 10:54 PM   #40
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Even though I agree that it sucks and that it affects game play, they did not really have a choice. The 360 came out in 2005 before HD DVD and BD launched. There was no way they could have included a next generation optical drive in the 360.
they had a choice lets not forget microsoft decided to push the 360 in front of the ps3 just to get a jump for a year or two on the ps3 as the next gen console they definetly knew about blu ray and hd dvd before launch the early release of the 360 is also a big part of why so many of their consoles crashed there was no proper q.o.s. done they jus pushed it onto the shelves
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