Suggestion on authoring Mohabbatein - Blu-ray Forum

Raul07 · 10-10-2010, 12:59 PM

Right, i am authoring my own bluray for Mohabbatein because its one of my favourite movies of all time and i need some suggestions for it like which areas i can improve on.

Source: YRF BD
Software: Adobe Encore CS5

If you guys want to see the difference between YRF and my ones here, let me know.

Anurag1700 · 10-10-2010, 01:12 PM

Wow!! Count me in buddy for any suggestions. And also as your first customer in case u plan to sell your final product

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I have a lot to say being the biggest fan of this film but rite now a bit busy in something else so will get bak.

however as a first, one thing is obvious- Audio- Get the vocals in songs to be only from center channel if possible.

Also , i did a comparison between Bodega and YRF DVD visuals on zulm.net . That should help u in some way i hope. Simply Search for the thread titled 'Mohabbatein DTS Bodega R2 PAL v/s YRF NTSC [DVD shots]'

Will add more once I get free. Man you really will be doing me and fans of the film a huge favor especially when there is already an unconfirmed comment about the audio gone bad on YRF BD which I am about to receive in the next couple of days.

Thanks

divyansh · 10-10-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Raul07

Right, i am authoring my own bluray for Mohabbatein because its one of my favourite movies of all time and i need some suggestions for it like which areas i can improve on.

Source: YRF BD
Software: Adobe Encore CS5

If you guys want to see the difference between YRF and my ones here, let me know.

reely good work........and yes do post the screenshots for comparisons b/w the two....and iam happy that some one has taken a step ahead ............and do send a copy to yrf to make them realise their mistakes.......!!

Raul07 · 10-10-2010, 03:27 PM

I will try that asap.

Anurag1700 · 10-10-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Raul07

Source: YRF BD

Hey Raul, if ur source is YRF BD then u already have it i guess? What is ur verdict on it? I know that ur attempt at re-authoring it answers it all but still, what do u have to say on BBR's comment on the other thread that during songs the sound is 'psuedo surround'?

Raul07 · 10-10-2010, 05:38 PM

Comparisson shots! Before V/s After; take into consideration face color,details , sky color, background color, hue and if there's anything else missing, do let me know.

vveksuvarna · 10-10-2010, 08:13 PM

From my color correction experience,

The YRF master is very red heavy on the whites,

Where as your re-encode leans a lot on the warmer yellows,

and you dont seem to be working on a calibrated monitor, your black levels are incorrect,

However you seem to have got the red tint issue in control for the most part, but the skin tones still show signs of a flush of red,

I dont know if you are able to work with masks or tracking data, that could really even out the small issues.

and get your hands on a professional monitor and check your output on a high-end plasma.

I recommend Lacie monitors, and Panasonic Plasmas.

Raul07 · 10-10-2010, 09:24 PM

^Thanks for your suggestions.

My black levels are correct. The problem was that i was working with the whole picture frame when i was supposed to be working with the movie only(exclude blackbars). Its late here in UK, will post proper screens tomorrow.

Raul07 · 10-11-2010, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

your re-encode leans a lot on the warmer yellows,

However you seem to have got the red tint issue in control for the most part, but the skin tones still show signs of a flush of red,

I dont know if you are able to work with masks or tracking data, that could really even out the small issues.

that was a 30 mins work. i can spend a whole day on it making it perfect, but whats the point? I'm doing this for my personal collection/as a hobby. Or maybe YRF will employ me to author their BDs

Anurag1700 · 10-11-2010, 06:30 AM

Wow Raul! just 30 mins work! Thats amazing. I wish yrf employs u.. atleast someone needs to tell them the meaning of 'making a BD for the fans'.

Raul, for some reason, I am unable to se the screen posssibly because of my slow connection speed ( i am able to see the other YRF thread SS very easily though). Is it possible for you to mail them to me? I am not a techie so dont expect me to giv any value adding suggestions. I can only tell as a layman film fan for how it is/should be acc to me.

Btw, any answer to the Pseudo suround question that I posted above?

ALPH@b3T · 10-11-2010, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Raul07

that was a 30 mins work. i can spend a whole day on it making it perfect, but whats the point? I'm doing this for my personal collection/as a hobby. Or maybe YRF will employ me to author their BDs

Ye Arshad07 YRF will sure hire you someday

orlando2 · 10-11-2010, 09:42 AM

Boosting contrast till whites clip and shadow detail goes away is not a desirable improvement in my books.

Raul07 · 10-11-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ALPH@b3T

Ye Arshad07 YRF will sure hire you someday

who is Arshad07?

Raul07 · 10-11-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by orlando2

Boosting contrast till whites clip and shadow detail goes away is not a desirable improvement in my books.

yea and i've done none of that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anurag1700

Btw, any answer to the Pseudo suround question that I posted above?

will check it and let you know as soon as possible.

BlackSheep · 10-11-2010, 07:34 PM

You boosted contrast, reduced dark level, and increased B and G levels. This makes the white shine and dark pixels merge forming a black slick.

Good effort nonetheless

.

Raul07 · 10-12-2010, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackSheep

You boosted contrast, reduced dark level, and increased B and G levels. This makes the white shine and dark pixels merge forming a black slick.

Good effort nonetheless

.

At least its better than the YRF version.

orlando2 · 10-12-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Raul07

yea and i've done none of that.

Yes, you have. At least on some of the low resolution samples you posted here. The whites on the shirt are now often clippy and shadow detail is reduced. You went for an exaggerated video look instead of a film look.

10-10-2010, 12:59 PM	#1
Raul07 Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Central Perk Blu-ray collection:10	Suggestion on authoring Mohabbatein Right, i am authoring my own bluray for Mohabbatein because its one of my favourite movies of all time and i need some suggestions for it like which areas i can improve on. Source: YRF BD Software: Adobe Encore CS5 If you guys want to see the difference between YRF and my ones here, let me know. Last edited by Raul07; 10-10-2010 at 01:04 PM.

10-10-2010, 05:38 PM	#6
Raul07 Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Central Perk Blu-ray collection:10	Comparisson shots! Before V/s After; take into consideration face color,details , sky color, background color, hue and if there's anything else missing, do let me know. Last edited by Raul07; 10-10-2010 at 09:14 PM.

10-10-2010, 08:13 PM	#7
vveksuvarna Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:San Francisco, CA Blu-ray collection:56	From my color correction experience, The YRF master is very red heavy on the whites, Where as your re-encode leans a lot on the warmer yellows, and you dont seem to be working on a calibrated monitor, your black levels are incorrect, However you seem to have got the red tint issue in control for the most part, but the skin tones still show signs of a flush of red, I dont know if you are able to work with masks or tracking data, that could really even out the small issues. and get your hands on a professional monitor and check your output on a high-end plasma. I recommend Lacie monitors, and Panasonic Plasmas. Last edited by vveksuvarna; 10-10-2010 at 08:22 PM.

10-10-2010, 01:12 PM	#2
Anurag1700 Special Member Member since:May 2010 Location:Bangalore Blu-ray collection:55 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Wow!! Count me in buddy for any suggestions. And also as your first customer in case u plan to sell your final product . I have a lot to say being the biggest fan of this film but rite now a bit busy in something else so will get bak. however as a first, one thing is obvious- Audio- Get the vocals in songs to be only from center channel if possible. Also , i did a comparison between Bodega and YRF DVD visuals on zulm.net . That should help u in some way i hope. Simply Search for the thread titled 'Mohabbatein DTS Bodega R2 PAL v/s YRF NTSC [DVD shots]' Will add more once I get free. Man you really will be doing me and fans of the film a huge favor especially when there is already an unconfirmed comment about the audio gone bad on YRF BD which I am about to receive in the next couple of days. Thanks

10-10-2010, 03:27 PM	#4
Raul07 Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Central Perk Blu-ray collection:10	I will try that asap.

10-10-2010, 09:24 PM	#8
Raul07 Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Central Perk Blu-ray collection:10	^Thanks for your suggestions. My black levels are correct. The problem was that i was working with the whole picture frame when i was supposed to be working with the movie only(exclude blackbars). Its late here in UK, will post proper screens tomorrow.

10-11-2010, 06:30 AM	#10
Anurag1700 Special Member Member since:May 2010 Location:Bangalore Blu-ray collection:55 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Wow Raul! just 30 mins work! Thats amazing. I wish yrf employs u.. atleast someone needs to tell them the meaning of 'making a BD for the fans'. Raul, for some reason, I am unable to se the screen posssibly because of my slow connection speed ( i am able to see the other YRF thread SS very easily though). Is it possible for you to mail them to me? I am not a techie so dont expect me to giv any value adding suggestions. I can only tell as a layman film fan for how it is/should be acc to me. Btw, any answer to the Pseudo suround question that I posted above?

10-11-2010, 09:42 AM	#12
orlando2 Banned Member since:Apr 2010 Blu-ray reviews:19	Boosting contrast till whites clip and shadow detail goes away is not a desirable improvement in my books.

10-11-2010, 07:34 PM	#15
BlackSheep Member Member since:Mar 2010	You boosted contrast, reduced dark level, and increased B and G levels. This makes the white shine and dark pixels merge forming a black slick. Good effort nonetheless .

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