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Old 12-10-2007, 06:01 PM   #1
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Again Amazon is having a BOGO sale with Warner and now Sony. Not sure how these work (from the corporate side). But, is this a preemptive strike to counteract the boost in sales of Bourne on HD-DVD? Also, why would Warner keep having these BOGO's if they plan on going blu? Wouldn't they rather have BOGO's for HD-dvd to help clear stock in advance of a switch?

Not a HD-DVD troll. Just hoping we see a Warner blu switch soon. Either way. I did my part and ordered 3 blu discs.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:03 PM   #2
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Again Amazon is having a BOGO sale with Warner and now Sony. Not sure how these work (from the corporate side). But, is this a preemptive strike to counteract the boost in sales of Bourne on HD-DVD? Also, why would Warner keep having these BOGO's if they plan on going blu? Wouldn't they rather have BOGO's for HD-dvd to help clear stock in advance of a switch?

Not a HD-DVD troll. Just hoping we see a Warner blu switch soon. Either way. I did my part and ordered 3 blu discs.
The entire BDA is agressively promoting Blu-ray during the Holidays. You don't see that on the HD DVd side becaue they are only: ToCHEAPA and Micro$oft.
Anyways you ordered 3 titles in the BOGO?
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:05 PM   #3
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:08 PM   #4
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Anyways you ordered 3 titles in the BOGO?
No...2 with the bogo and one (Pirates:AWE) seperate. Plus I preordered HP box set (in blu) from Wherehouse.com

So is it a good sign that Warner is doing all of these BOGO's?
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:29 PM   #5
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BOGO sales are not to clear stock, they are to bring in more viewers and spread their base.
The main reason that the BDA uses bogos is to attract PS3 owners who may not have experienced movies on blu yet and get them hooked.
Most view it as a firm show of support.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:44 PM   #6
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IMO, the BDA chosing this week for an extensive Amazon BOGO, the first sub-$300 player, and some really sweet HDTV + Panny BD deals at BB is genius. On Black Friday week everyone shat their pants when HD-DVD had the ridiculous player deals, but I think waiting until HD-DVD's strongest release week of Q4 was perfect strategy. The sub-$300 players have been all over the news, and there is strong advertising for HP. Between me and my in-laws we have all Potter movies ordered from Amazon as well as 10 other movies from Amazon. Warner's participation in a BOGO is a clear indicator of their support for the Blu format. From the sound of it, 80% of the people here have HP movies ordered (and if they don't, they should be ashamed.) We should easily get 60% of the market this week, but my only true hope is we outsell Dud OOTP by 2:1.
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Of course it's a good sign that Warner has joined Disney, Sony & Fox in promoting blu-ray by doing BOGO sales
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:18 AM   #8
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Even if you lament that none of the new titles are included in the BOGO, it is clearly not aimed at long-time supporters like us. It's for the new owners of PS3s and BD players who just got in the game in the last 3 weeks.


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Old 12-11-2007, 12:39 AM   #9
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Even if you lament that none of the new titles are included in the BOGO, it is clearly not aimed at long-time supporters like us. It's for the new owners of PS3s and BD players who just got in the game in the last 3 weeks.


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I got in on the PS3 with 10+5 free blu-ray movies a few weeks ago which I thought was genius. It worked with me, I was going to buy a HD-DVD player Black friday evening till I found the walmart deal on fatwallet. And I've now bought through BOGO's as many as I chose in store at Walmart.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:21 AM   #10
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Even if you lament that none of the new titles are included in the BOGO, it is clearly not aimed at long-time supporters like us. It's for the new owners of PS3s and BD players who just got in the game in the last 3 weeks.


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The BOGO definitely worked on me. I bought 4 titles. Sure, BOGOs are going to help the newer owners build their collection, but this weeks good deals + BOGOs across all the major retailers are primarily aimed to neutralize DuD's numbers for one of their biggest weeks of the year. We saw the same story with Transformers.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:27 AM   #11
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If they were dumping blu-ray their blu titles would skyrocket in value due to scarcity.
It wouldn't make sense to sell them below MSRP.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:31 AM   #12
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BOGO sales are not to clear stock, they are to bring in more viewers and spread their base.
The main reason that the BDA uses bogos is to attract PS3 owners who may not have experienced movies on blu yet and get them hooked.
Most view it as a firm show of support.
That's what I think. And the fact that there is not a similar BOGO on the HD DVD side w/ WB titles makes me think it's not WB footing the "bill" of this particular BOGO...

...perhaps it's the BDA showing WB the power of the current 2.7MM BD players in peoples' homes...
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:34 AM   #13
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I got in on the PS3 with 10+5 free blu-ray movies a few weeks ago which I thought was genius. It worked with me, I was going to buy a HD-DVD player Black friday evening till I found the walmart deal on fatwallet. And I've now bought through BOGO's as many as I chose in store at Walmart.
This is me...except I was not getting an HD-DVD player. I got the 10+5 deal at Walmart. And just purchased a few bogo titles. Plus got the Ocean's trilogy, Blade Runner briefcase and HP gift set...All on blue.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:54 AM   #14
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Again Amazon is having a BOGO sale with Warner and now Sony. Not sure how these work (from the corporate side). But, is this a preemptive strike to counteract the boost in sales of Bourne on HD-DVD? Also, why would Warner keep having these BOGO's if they plan on going blu? Wouldn't they rather have BOGO's for HD-dvd to help clear stock in advance of a switch?

Not a HD-DVD troll. Just hoping we see a Warner blu switch soon. Either way. I did my part and ordered 3 blu discs.
It's a lesson in strategy.

The HD DVD PRG bet everything on the installed base and repeatedly slashed the hardware prices because it was the only thing they could do (to try and make their platform appetizing). They could go heavy in BOGO, but this would hardly improve their installed base -- it would only improve the per-unit ratio.

The reasoning from the BDA is exactly the opposite: we have more movie studios and we stand together to help you get in hi-def. Their strategy: a player is a one-time investment, while you buy discs whenever you like. For most of you, the combined price of your BD librairies is definitely much higher than the price you paid for the player. These BOGO are very nice initiatives to entice potential buyers to enter hi-def and build an early library for little money.

I only wish they'd make many of those BOGO internationally. You guys are spoiled.
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Old 12-11-2007, 05:57 AM   #15
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To me its also a question of loyalty that HD-DVD supporting studios have to HD-DVD vs. the loyalty that bluray studios have to bluray.

Disney and Sony have been more than willing to put their titles on BOGO, which to me is a sign that they believe in the format and are willing to help it win.

While, the HD-DVD studios seem so dead set on believing that hardware is the determining factor.

Look at it this way, which do you see as being easier:
The BDA going to the movie studios and saying "Hey lets have a bogo sale to convince these untapped movie buyers to buy movies in our format"

Or Toshiba having to come crawling to Universal and Paramount and say:
"Or hardware sales need a little boost, because low price isnt moving software, so lets do a bogo"

In short, it seems to me when the HD-DVD studios do something that can potentially cause them to lose money short term (They sure as hell dont think long term) they havent seemed to respond very well.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:31 AM   #16
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To me it seems as though Toshiba is really desperate to get players into homes, while Blu-ray is getting that mostly through PS3's and now just wants to put the nail in the coffin by offering these BOGO's during weeks of big Paramount releases (this week Bourne 3).

And while some people like hddvd fudders say that Blu is giving away discs, I see it more like Blu owners are way more likely to buy 2 discs (or more) during BOGO's than 1 disc on a non-BOGO week.
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:44 AM   #17
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I was thinking the Warners Blu BOGO was a good sign for us with the Warners rumors. But now Amazon are now running a Warners DUD BOGO.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...rd_i=193642011
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I was thinking the Warners Blu BOGO was a good sign for us with the Warners rumors. But now Amazon are now running a Warners DUD BOGO.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...rd_i=193642011
Well, I'm not surprised. It only makes sense for them to sell as many discs as possible for the holiday season.
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Well waiting for the Nielsen figures on Friday, we got partial PS3 figures for the past week.

So over here in Europe, the PS3 sold almost 200K comparing to 100K three weeks ago and 150K two weeks ago ... I have a feeling when this week's figures are complete, we'll be close to a total of 400K or more between Europe, Japan and North America. all that in just one week

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That's what I think. And the fact that there is not a similar BOGO on the HD DVD side w/ WB titles makes me think it's not WB footing the "bill" of this particular BOGO...

...perhaps it's the BDA showing WB the power of the current 2.7MM BD players in peoples' homes...
Incorrect. HD-DVD's from Warner ARE on amazon. See below.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...75031&plpage=1

EDIT: I just noticed that someone beat me to it a couple of posts ago.

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