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![]() A GUIDE TO AUDYSSEY AUTO CALIBRATION & OTHER TECHNOLOGIES Although this guide is written for Audyssey AUTO calibration program, many of its suggestions can be used by people who are using other receivers/processors and auto calibration programs. Audyssey is used by Creston, Denon, Integra, Marantz, NAD, Onkyo, Phase Technology, and Wisdom. It does not stand for anything with respect to audio. Audyssey is a name that is used by the founders of the company, Chris Kyriakakis (a Professor at USC) and Tomlinson Holman of THX. Anthem: ARC = Anthem Room Correction Emotiva XMC-1: TACT = Tuned Aperture Computed Tomography Pioneer: MCACC = Multi Channel Acoustic Calibration and Control Sherwood: Room Acoustic Calibration with EQ Sherwood Newcastle R-972: Trinnov Optimizer Sony: DCAC = Digital Cinema Auto Calibration Yamaha: YPAO = Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer Before you run any auto calibration program, it is highly recommended that you read the following threads: A Guide to Bass Management (Part I) A Guide to Bass Management (Part II) The importance and necessity of equalization is discussed in the following thread: Why Do We Need Equalization and Room Correction? PRELIMINARY PREPARATION It is important that you follow the following steps before you attempt to run the auto calibration program:
USING THE AUDYSSEY AUTO CALIBRATION PROGRAM The Audyssey room correction program comes in four different flavors: MultEQ XT32, MultEQ XT, MultEQ and 2EQ. Although they are all built on the same basic fundamentals, each receiver/processor may use a different version depending on its DSP processing power. Furthermore, it is possible that some lower end processors may have to turn Audyssey off if you set them to process the bitstream HD audio. Check the owner’s manual for further information. Quote:
http://www.audyssey.com/products?ins...d=44&ptype=All How to Run MultEQ:
WHAT YOU SHOULD DO AND WHAT YOU SHOULD NOT DO
REFERENCE LEVEL Reference level is defined for film mixing and movie theaters. Every studio and movie theater is calibrated according to this level. It represents an average of 85dB for the regular speakers on the SPL meter (set on C weighting and Slow) using a band limited (500Hz to 2,000Hz) pink noise at the listening position. The peak level is set 20dB higher at 105db and the LFE peak level is set +10dB higher to a maximum of 115dB. The purpose of the +10 dB gain for the LFE channel is to increase the dynamic range of bass sound such as explosions and crashes. This means when the receiver master volume is set to 0dB, the regular speakers are expected to play a peak level of 105dB and the subwoofer is expected to produce a peak output level of 115dB. This is louder than most people can tolerate, so people normally set the master volume much lower than 0 when watching movies or listening to music. Furthermore, such loud bass level places a heavy burden on the subwoofer and requires multiple high-end subwoofers to produce it accurately. Because 85dBC test tones can be very loud in a small home theater room and can damage hearing, receiver manufacturers through the encouragement by Dolby and THX decided that a reasonable test-tone level is 75dB and that is the level that most receivers use. To summarize,
You can use either the internal test tones of a receiver or an external disc. The internal test tones of most receivers are band limited and recorded at 75dB level (-30 dB FS). External calibration signals on most discs are typically full-range pink noise and recorded at 85dB (-20dB FS). It really doesn't make a lot of difference which method you use as long as all the speakers are balanced. However, it is important to remember that when you play the internal test tones inside a receiver/processor, they normally bypass all post processing, including equalization. Last edited by Big Daddy; 10-26-2012 at 11:58 PM. |
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![]() AUDYSSEY AND MUSIC Movies are mixed in studio rooms calibrated for the film reference level (see the last section below for explanation of the Reference Level). Home theater systems that are calibrated by Audyssey MultEQ will play at home reference level when the Master Volume is set to 0 dB position. To achieve this reference level, the levels of all the speakers/subwoofer(s) are adjusted so that the system plays at the reference level when the master volume is set to 0dB position. This is normally done by playing the internal pink noise generated by the receiver/processor so that it produces 75 dB sound pressure level at the main listening position. The pink noise inside most receivers/processors are band-limited (500Hz – 2000Hz) and recorded at -30dBFS. This is done so that we hear the sound at the same level that was intended by the mixers. Most people do not listen at reference level and turn the master volume down to -10dB - 15dB. When you turn the master volume down, some of the frequencies, particularly the lower frequencie, will suffer. Audyssey Dynamic EQ was created to make adjustments to maintain the reference response and surround envelopment when the volume is turned down from 0dB. It is referenced to the standard film mix level. Unfortunately, music recordings do not have a well defined reference level like movies and are recorded at many different levels. In order to alleviate this problem, the Audyssey Dynamic EQ has Reference Level Offset to set for content that does not follow the standard movie refence level. These are the Reference Level Offsets that are suggested by Audyssey: 0 dB (Film Reference): This is the default setting and should be used when listening to movies. 15 dB (Pop/Rock Music): Select this setting for pop/rock music or other program material that is mixed at very high listening levels and has a compressed dynamic range. 10 dB (Jazz & TV Content)): Select this setting for jazz or other music that has a wider dynamic range. This setting should also be selected for TV content as that is usually mixed at 10 dB below film reference. 5 dB (Classical Music): Select this setting for content that has a very wide dynamic range, such as classical music. Please note that the Audyssey Dynamic EQ Offsets are not available for all receivers. For example, for the Denon receivers, it was introduced with XX10 models. You can achieve the same thing by going into the setup menu of the receiver and turning down the Input Level for your selected source by 5, 10 or 15dB. You should then turn the master volume up tby the same amount from wherever you had it set before so that you can listen at the same volume level as before. Turning the volume up tells Dynamic EQ to make smaller adjustments. The 10dB adjustment may work for most music content. INVERSE CORRECTION FILTER Let's fully understand what the Audyssey Auto Calibration does. Although Audyssey measures and sets the levels of the speakers/subwoofer(s), I limit my discussion to equalization only.
The steps above are summarized in the following graphs: http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multeq/tour Quote:
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In Onkyo receivers with THX, if you turn on Re-EQ and you are not in THX mode, then you will be using the Audyssey Reference curve plus Re-EQ. http://www.audyssey.com/blog/2009/05...vs-preference/ Quote:
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REFERENCES AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION Audyssey Technologies: http://www.audyssey.com/technology.html Different Flavors of Audyssey MultEq: http://www.audyssey.com/technology/multeq.html MutEQ Steps: http://www.audyssey.com/technology/m...to-multeq.html Microphone Placement: http://ask.audyssey.com/entries/7328...hone-placement Audyssey Calibration Guide on AVS Forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=5701 Surround Sound: http://www.amsky.com/~cirkuit/media/surround.html Dynamic EQ and Reference Level: http://ask.audyssey.com/entries/7328...eference-level Audyssey and Subwoofer Distance: http://ask.audyssey.com/entries/2275...oofer-distance Last edited by Big Daddy; 08-15-2011 at 02:03 AM. |
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![]() INFORMATION ABOUT AUDYSSEY TECHNOLOGIES FAQ Questions About Audyssey MultEQ, Dynamic EQ, Dynamic Volume, and DSX: http://www.audyssey.com/technology/faq.html#faq_multeq Audyssey MultEQ, Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ http://ask.audyssey.com/entries/9204...and-dynamic-eq Quote:
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![]() AUDYSSEY DSX Audyssey DSX can be used either to add a pair of horizontal-plane front width speakers to expand the width of the front soundstage or a pair of front-height channels. For example, Denon 4310CI’s DSX implementation doesn’t support simultaneous height and width channels, but Denon 4810CI receiver can do both simultaneously. Important Facts About Audyssey DSX
Dolby IIz delivers multichannel surround with height channels from mono, two-channel and multichannel audio sources, but DSX adds width and height channels only to sources with 5.1 or more channels. Although Audyssey DSX does not work with stereo or mono sources, you can make it work with those sources through Dolby Pro Logic IIx (not PLIIz) and DTS Neo:6. Also, it is important to know that Pro Logic IIx Music mode includes a center width control on some receivers that lets you adjust the mix of vocals into the center channel and adjusting that can enhance the results of Audyssey DSX. ![]() Audyssey DSX may be "sweet spot-centric" and may not give you good results for other seats in the room. http://www.ultimateavmag.com/news/audyssey_dsx/ Quote:
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REFERENCES & ADDITIONAL INFORMATION http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dsx.html http://www.dolby.com/consumer/unders...z-details.html http://www.audioholics.com/education...yssey-dsx-10.2 http://www.hemagazine.com/Dolby_Pro_...DSX?page=0%2C0 http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showth...sey-DSX-Report http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/...i_av_receiver/ http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/tes...n-audyssey-dsx http://www.ultimateavmag.com/news/audyssey_dsx/ http://www.avguide.com/blog/playback...sive-audio-lab http://www.avguide.com/blog/playback...sey-dsx-part-2 http://www.avguide.com/blog/playback...-part-3?page=1 Last edited by Big Daddy; 06-25-2011 at 07:47 PM. |
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Fantastic work Big Daddy!
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![]() * Yes sir I know how much work is involved in that (some of my own graphs took me over 10 hours! Only for one graph!). ![]() I can tell you did all the research for all the texts and links, and then you just post them after all were ready to be transfered. It is simply amazing your dedication to this site and all its members! We don't usually see that very often on the Internet! But here it is, you are the real proof of the pudding! ![]() ![]() At least your work is not in vain, as there are many people here that deeply appreciate. ...And I'm one of them, of course. And this in the Ultimate Goal to perfect our Surround Sound Experience! Chapeau! You truly rock! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Absolutely incredible, you definitely put in some over time to gather all the G2 and prepare it for "publishing". Thank you for your effort, like many of your sticky's, I will be using it as a reference for my system.
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I agree with the other poster's; outstanding work and information!
May I make one suggestion? Could you add an explanation of Audyssey's Reference & Flat Curves? As I understand it, some AVRs allow the user to select one or the other, or is fixed to just one. The curve that is shown in your example below (post #2) is the Flat Curve, which can be difficult to find if it is available at all. The 805 as I understand it, for example, uses the Reference Curve and this can only be defeated (switched to the Flat Curve) by using specific listening modes none of which ever mention that the selected Curve is being switched. I hope this was in your plans, but I think it would be helpful to explain these two Curves to make sure all understand what is happening. On another board many complain that Audyssey sounds like it is putting a blanket over the speaker and it was the general opinion that the AVR's in question was using the Reference Curve. Thanks once again for great reference documents! |
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Sprout, I will try to do that. Unfortunately, I will be out of town most of today and will not return until very late. Perhaps I can add some more information to the thread later. |
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In most products there are three Audyssey target curves, but in Onkyo/Integra products, there is only one; the standard "Audyssey" curve; but two if you count the Audyssey "Flat" curve that is automatically engaged when in THX Cinema audio mode.
1. "Audyssey" target curve. This is the Reference Standard target curve; good with Movies. [This curve has a gentle roll-off starting at about 4 kHz, and -2 dB at 10 Khz, and -6dB at 20 Khz.] 2. Audyssey "Flat" target curve. [This curve tries to keep all your speakers flat and is the recommended one with Music audio modes.] 3. Audyssey "Front L/R Bypass" target curve. ...Used to be called simply "Front" curve.. [This curve turns Audyssey Off for the Front L & R channels and uses the Standard "Audyssey" correction curve for all the other channels.] _____________________ * In NAD products, there is another "Audyssey" target curve, which is a custom "In-House" curve; which was developed by NAD with the help of Paul Barton from PSB speakers. This "Custom Audyssey" curve is similar to the standard "Audyssey" target curve as it too has a roll-off in the higher audio frequencies. ** In Onkyo/Integra products (pre/pros and receivers) which feature THX certification, there is only one Standard "Audyssey" curve, which of course is the #1 from above. -> But, when you are using the THX post-processing Cinema audio mode, the Audyssey "Flat" curve is automatically selected as implemented by Onkyo/Integra products having the THX feature. ...This is good, because "Audyssey's" curve compounded with Re-EQ would result in a sound decidedly on the dryer side of things, with both the standard "Audyssey" target curve with its roll-off in the higher audio frequencies, and THX also with its roll-off in the very same higher audio frequencies (actually THX Re-EQ start the roll-off earlier than Audyssey, starting at 2 kHz). So, even with Onkyo/Integra's omission in the choice of Audyssey full complement of the three target curves, they at least automatically revert to the Audyssey "Flat" curve when in THX Cinema mode. ~ And you cannot manually adjust those Audyssey target curves. -> For some choice of adjustments and 'memory saved' Audyssey target curves, you'll need to invest in Audyssey MultEQ Pro with the software implemented and the help of your computer. And you also need the Audyssey Pro kit with a specially calibrated microphone particular to your exact product model number. And up to 32 microphone positions are available with the Pro version. *** I also should add that the Audyssey "Tower" type (Eiffel tower) microphone is calibrated to better than +/-2 dB from 10 Hz to 24 kHz. > This is much more accurate than the Radio Shack SPL meter. _____________________ By the way, Audyssey MultEQ XT32 uses more than 10,000 FIR (Finite Impulse Response) filters all across the full spectrum of the audio range, from 10 Hz to 24 kHz! That is simply very sophisticated! I am an Audyssey fan, can you tell? ![]() P.S. Check this out: 32 mic positions (Pro version), MultEQ XT32 (highest Audyssey resolution), and 32-bit DACs (in flagship Onkyo/Integra pre/pros and receivers)! That is an interesting coincidence if you ask me. Last edited by LordoftheRings; 12-30-2010 at 04:25 PM. Reason: underline & postcript |
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And I agree with you that it is a good point to make the difference and also to have a choice. But I also wish that there was more; like more options to save lets say about six Audyssey target curves all together, and perhaps also with the choice to manually tweak them. ...But I know this is quite a tall order for now, but maybe in a near future when all cars will be flying! ![]() ...And with integrated REW into our pre/pros and receivers to see exactly (on-screen graphics) what is taking place in our room. So we can make the proper adjustments. It'll come eventually with the DSP chip's advances in their increased computing power. ...Much much more memory will be possible and the number of MB, GB, TB, will reach the sky... |
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The confusion is not entirely the fault of Audyssey. It is mostly the fault of Onkyo and the way their receivers handle Audyssey Reference Target and Audyssey Flat curves. Go back to post #2 and find out how Onkyo handles the curves. In my Denon receiver, you can easily and manually choose whichever option you like. Last edited by Big Daddy; 12-13-2010 at 08:12 AM. |
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![]() and it is -2 dB by 10 Khz, and finally -6 dB at 20 Khz. (So I was not very far off, only by one Khz.) * What Chris called a slight roll-off at 10 Khz and above is already down by 2 dB at 10 Khz. But that actual curve 'roll-off' starts really just above 4 Khz. => @ http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=34047 _____________________________________________ * THX with Re-EQ engaged starts its roll-off at 2 kHz? ________________________________________________ ~ Also, you mentioned (from post #2 above) the Manual EQ on some products; but you said it was a traditional Parametric Equalizer. In your Denon receiver, do you have a separate "Q" adjustment? Isn't it instead a Graphic Equalizer? In my Onkyo pre/pro and receivers it is in fact a Graphic Equalizer. I also believe that the same applies for Denon and Marantz receivers and pre/pros as well. ...And Integra too. Last edited by LordoftheRings; 12-30-2010 at 04:56 PM. Reason: * Edit for precise info |
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