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Old 03-24-2011, 04:12 PM   #1
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Does any one know why when I am watching a movie OR playing a game on either my Xbox 360 or PS3 I can't select this setting? For instance I will be playing Resident Evil 2 on my PS3 and the only option I have is PCM as nothing else can be selected. Same with my Xbox. My wii works fine in this regard however.

I normally have my PS3 set to Linear PCM however I have tried to switch it to bitstream and still I have the same problem. I know that something is up because when I first got my reciever I was playing it in PLII/Neo:6/Neural Surround and now I can't even select those.

Does anyone here know my problem? I can't find anything on it, is there a setting I have left on that is stopping it from working?

PS3 is hooked in through HDMI and set to Linear PCM

360 is hooked though Optical
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Does any one know why when I am watching a movie OR playing a game on either my Xbox 360 or PS3 I can't select this setting? For instance I will be playing Resident Evil 2 on my PS3 and the only option I have is PCM as nothing else can be selected. Same with my Xbox. My wii works fine in this regard however.

I normally have my PS3 set to Linear PCM however I have tried to switch it to bitstream and still I have the same problem. I know that something is up because when I first got my reciever I was playing it in PLII/Neo:6/Neural Surround and now I can't even select those.

Does anyone here know my problem? I can't find anything on it, is there a setting I have left on that is stopping it from working?

PS3 is hooked in through HDMI and set to Linear PCM

360 is hooked though Optical
I have the same thing going on with my PS3 and Integra DTR-50.2. It defaults the Integra to All Channel Stereo on both LPCM and Bitstream.

I'm not familiar with your Elite's menus, but I multiple settings including default listening. I had that set to PLII Games but once the PS3 fires up to goes back to all channel stereo. However, on my other audio settings I have those set to straight decode. So my assumption was the PS3's default audio actually falls into one of the other categories I wasn't tweaking, sending out PCM.

Watching TV, however, I have it set the same way and it utilizes PLII Movies just fine, per my setting.

Curious to see what others have to say on this one.
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I have the same thing going on with my PS3 and Integra DTR-50.2. It defaults the Integra to All Channel Stereo on both LPCM and Bitstream.

I'm not familiar with your Elite's menus, but I multiple settings including default listening. I had that set to PLII Games but once the PS3 fires up to goes back to all channel stereo. However, on my other audio settings I have those set to straight decode. So my assumption was the PS3's default audio actually falls into one of the other categories I wasn't tweaking, sending out PCM.

Watching TV, however, I have it set the same way and it utilizes PLII Movies just fine, per my setting.

Curious to see what others have to say on this one.
Yeah, what it does for me is basically this:

When playing a game on my 360 that is 4.1 Dolby Digital (no center channel) I can't select Pro Logic II, but it uses prologic II automatically when I watch a video on my 360.

ON my PS3 if I am playing an old game like "Resident Evil 2" it automatically selects "PCM" which is only outputting 2-channel stereo. I should be able to enable a matrix surround option right? but I can't. When I watch a video file that I have on my pS3 that is in stereo it allows for the matrixing options, why not the game?
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I don't believe the Pio can do PLIIx when using PCM. It can only do THX. I use my original 60GB PS3 to play PS2 games and my front panel indicates "Stereo" but don't know if I have the PS3 set to "PCM" or "Bitstream". Since mine doesn't bitstream BDs, I'm thinking I have it to "PCM" even though I don't play BDs on it.

I can check my settings when I get home but that won't be for hours as I'm at work.
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Thanks for the info. It sounds possible. However I swear that I was using Matrix surround stuff before in the same scenario.
I am going to try going something other than HDMI.
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When playing a game on my 360 that is 4.1 Dolby Digital (no center channel) I can't select Pro Logic II, but it uses prologic II automatically when I watch a video on my 360.

ON my PS3 if I am playing an old game like "Resident Evil 2" it automatically selects "PCM" which is only outputting 2-channel stereo. I should be able to enable a matrix surround option right? but I can't. When I watch a video file that I have on my pS3 that is in stereo it allows for the matrixing options, why not the game?
Re the 360, PLII cannot be applied to 4.1. It can only be used with stereo signals.

Re the PS3, even though it is outputting stereo, if this is thru HDMI, there is the remote possibility is it packing L/R stereo audio into a multichannel layout, like 4.1 or 5.1, even though the other channels are silent. If you connect the PS3 with either S/PDIF or 2-ch analog, then PLII will work.
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