Dark Country 3D Blu-ray (2009) [Region B Locked / Free]

[mxracer47]

Dark Country was released on 3D Blu-ray in France and in Turkey. The French edition has forced subtitles when watching with English audio (except on the director's commentary track, which can be viewed with no subtitles). The Turkish edition has no extras but includes English audio with no forced subtitles.



Dark Country 3D Blu-ray Amazon link from when it used to be available on Amazon US from seller

Dark Country 3D Blu-ray English audio has forced French subs


Original post:
I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about a release date for the US version of Dark Country 3D ? I see you can purchase it for download on the PS3 for $29.99 but I would rather have the actual Disc for that price. If you have any info. please post.

thanks, Rich

[Jbug]

I've been wondering that also.

[Blu-Ray 3D President]

I had just youtubed dark country and saw a lot of negative angry comments.

[cydetrakd]

I actually dug the movie from what I saw of it. It was on a very Twilight Zone tip but overall was good with the exception of ghosting but it was probally due to the combination of the movie was playing off a memory stick on a non calibrated Sammy display at BestBuy.

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[Manesha]

waiting for the dark movies as well !

[bigbadwolfe911]

Originally Posted by Manesha

waiting for the dark movies as well !

Is there more than just one movie? I did not realize it was a series.

[Manesha]

wonderful movie !

[Paul H]

My copy just arrived from Amazon.fr
FYI: The lenticular cover is very impressive. This cover in fact is the most impressive one I've ever seen to date. Light from behind the mountains and shining from the car intensifies dramatically real-world placement for 3D focus of the whole environmental surroundings

Edit:
The Good: Extremely STRONG 3D throughout the feature in every scene.
The Bad: When the original English 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio is chosen, it comes with forced French subtitles, no getting around it, unless the commentary track is chosen. Commentary discussion is in English with no French subtitles.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Paul H

My copy just arrived from Amazon.fr
FYI: The lenticular cover is very impressive. This cover in fact is the most impressive one I've ever seen to date. Light from behind the mountains and shining from the car intensifies dramatically real-world placement for 3D focus of the whole environmental surroundings

Edit:
The Good: Extremely STRONG 3D throughout the feature in every scene.
The Bad: When the original English 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio is chosen, it comes with forced French subtitles, no getting around it, unless the commentary track is chosen. Commentary discussion is in English with no French subtitles.

That sounds very good, thanks Paul. Extremely strong 3D. The cover looks cool also. Thanks.

[robtadrian]

Over at the Home Theater Forum there is mention of a Turkish release with non-forced subtitles.
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/com...00565/page-223
Posts 4447 and 4448 Thanks to the HTF!

[davidbe]

I have watched Dark Country and my main complaint is about picture/3D quality. It was shot in native 3D and the depth was consistently good, but there was a problem throughout that did not look like crosstalk and is hard to describe. It looked like a sheen caused by light reflections or something that appear in the wrong plane that made it hard to focus and was quite annoying. Maybe it's a type of crosstalk but was not the type of ghosting that I normally associate with crosstalk. I'm viewing on a 4K OLED and rarely see crosstalk. This is also an extremely low budget production and it shows. The story was OK but with the other issues overall this does not get a high recommendation from me.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by davidbe

I have watched Dark Country and my main complaint is about picture/3D quality. It was shot in native 3D and the depth was consistently good, but there was a problem throughout that did not look like crosstalk and is hard to describe. It looked like a sheen caused by light reflections or something that appear in the wrong plane that made it hard to focus and was quite annoying. Maybe it's a type of crosstalk but was not the type of ghosting that I normally associate with crosstalk. I'm viewing on a 4K OLED and rarely see crosstalk. This is also an extremely low budget production and it shows. The story was OK but with the other issues overall this does not get a high recommendation from me.

Thanks for the details. I don't have a 4K3DTV yet, but does that issue with the ghosting occur during high contrast shots, like when there is a bright light against a very dark background, or something like that?

This may not apply depending on the effect/distraction, but I know with strong 3D, that's hard to avoid with 3D glasses, so it'll be interesting to see if 4K eliminates it completely in every movie. I know when post editing the 3D, sometimes that effect can be a challenge to eliminate with strong 3D. If you push the image further into the screen, the other layers can be affected, and vice versa.

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Thanks for the details. I don't have a 4K3DTV yet, but does that issue with the ghosting occur during high contrast shots, like when there is a bright light against a very dark background, or something like that?

This may not apply depending on the effect/distraction, but I know with strong 3D, that's hard to avoid with 3D glasses, so it'll be interesting to see if 4K eliminates it completely in every movie. I know when post editing the 3D, sometimes that effect can be a challenge to eliminate with strong 3D. If you push the image further into the screen, the other layers can be affected, and vice versa.

Close one eye and the ghosting is not there in either left or right image. IMO, this will be more of a projected-image light-bleed problem that manifests itself and is characteristic in both theatrical or projected home-theater setups. This is not usually a problem for 4K3D"direct-view" displays that have superior control over the "infinite-black" light control of polarized images.

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by davidbe

It looked like a sheen caused by light reflections or something that appear in the wrong plane that made it hard to focus and was quite annoying.

I also noticed this effect from the camera lenses which don't seem to have the "Anti-Reflective Coating" that usually minimizes light induced reflection on lense surfaces .

The 3D was strong throughout. Almost too-strong at times. Notice when they get out of the car to view the body in the close-up dialogue scenes. Look at the stars at those moments and several stars will be noticeably at different depth levels. They should normally look like they are on the same plane, being so distant. And the stars look normally distant in various inserted edit angles for the same scene.

[davidbe]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Thanks for the details. I don't have a 4K3DTV yet, but does that issue with the ghosting occur during high contrast shots, like when there is a bright light against a very dark background, or something like that?

This may not apply depending on the effect/distraction, but I know with strong 3D, that's hard to avoid with 3D glasses, so it'll be interesting to see if 4K eliminates it completely in every movie. I know when post editing the 3D, sometimes that effect can be a challenge to eliminate with strong 3D. If you push the image further into the screen, the other layers can be affected, and vice versa.

I couldn't tell you when it occurred (and I would not call it ghosting) without studying the movie in detail, which I am not inclined to do (plus, it wouldn't help), but it was present a lot throughout the movie. Obviously, 4K does not eliminate this in every movie, since this movie had it. It would be interesting to know if the same effect were present with DLP.

I have seen the effect occasionally in other movies (but only with native 3D, never a conversion), but not to the extent I saw it in this movie. Most of the time, the 4K OLED has stunningly beautiful 3D, and I am totally hooked on it.

[BleedOrange11]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Thanks for the details. I don't have a 4K3DTV yet, but does that issue with the ghosting occur during high contrast shots, like when there is a bright light against a very dark background, or something like that?

Sounds like he's talking about "retinal rivalry" that occurs with native 3D when one lens catches a reflection of light that doesn't show up in the other lens--not a TV issue.

[davidbe]

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Sounds like he's talking about "retinal rivalry" that occurs with native 3D when one lens catches a reflection of light that doesn't show up in the other lens--not a TV issue.

That could be it, and if so seems like a failing in the production of the movie. This was a very low budget movie and they probably were not particularly experienced with 3D and its potential pitfalls. Filming a lot of it at night with artificial light probably contributed to the issue.

[BleedOrange11]

The 3D here was supervised by legendary stereographer Ray Zone (see his awesome books here), and I think it looks excellent. Like you said, it was low-budget, shot fast and cheap, and they probably didn't take the time to eliminate all rivalry issues before rolling cameras. Using wider interaxials like they do here, they are going to catch more obvious differences than in something like The Amazing Spider-Man that uses small IAs. It's a constant problem that stereographers face when shooting native, and it's their job to work with the lighting to minimize that issue. Sometimes, it just kind of comes with the territory, and they hope most people are able to overlook it in favor of the nice depth on display.

[BleedOrange11]

Actually, you'll see a lot of retinal rivalry in all 3D movies shot by Max Penner, who worked as stereographer on Dark Country too. I like his stereo. It's not as clean as what you get from others though, and it does make the PQ look a little messy. Dark Country may have the best volume and roundness of his filmography, which I'd attribute to Ray Zone's presence and maybe the open attitude of the crew toward 3D.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0672108/

[Paul H]

Notice when they get out of the car to view the body in the close-up dialogue scenes. Look at the stars at those moments and several stars will be noticeably at different depth levels. They should normally look like they are on the same plane, being so distant. And the stars look normally distant in various inserted edit angles for the same scene.

Viewing on a 3D OLED, the sky has no illumination, stars are bright and distinct from self-illuminating pixles, and in this scene they are at different depth levels, like you would see in IMAX: Hubble 3D.
Runtime: 00:20:22

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When the scene cuts to the direction of the accident the stars are together on one plane as you would see them in the distance of a normal night sky.
Runtime: 00:20:31

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The stars in this scene are at different depths, the one centered over his head is positioned closest to screen-depth.
Runtime: 00:20:41

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