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I am also only interested in the Amytiville Horror. How do you know is going to be announce? |
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First I would like send a big thank you to all the studios releasing these classic horror movies. This is what I've been waiting for on blu. Highdefdigest has just listed Amityville horror. That makes October 7th an expensive day because Carrie, Amityville horror and the Omen. It sucks because Omen was originally October 7th. All that needs to happen now is the Exorcist, It and Cujo and my horror needs will be satisfied.
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I just went to the High Def Digest website and didn't see anything about Amityville Horror????? Where are you seeing this? |
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I don't quite get the review given to Amityville from Blu-ray.com. The reviewer kept claiming that the movie was a highly fictionalized account of the book which in itself was a highly fictionalized account of actual events. This is not true. I read the book when it was first released. As a matter of fact it's the only book I've ever read twice. The movie was extremely accurate to the book. The book, as well, had more things happening that didn't appear in the movie. Now I guess as it turns out pretty much the whole story is fiction in reality but the reviewer can't claim that the movie was so much more over the top than the book when that isn't true
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That's right. I did hear about that. I guess if there's one good thing about these pointless remakes, it gets the studios to release the originals on blu.
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That said, the movie does have some notable exaggerations from the book - the bleeding walls and babysitter scene in particular - but is actually tamer in some places. Most of the changes were in moving around events chronologically. It's infinitely closer to the book and what the Lutz family claims really happened than the 2005 version. The reviewer complains about the episodic, disconnected nature of the events, and later that the family doesn't run away soon enough. The choppy nature of events is not only representative of what the Lutzes say happened, and what happened in the book, but is a big part of the reason why they stayed almost a month. George has said the small incidents all seemed isolated and didn't really appear to be building to anything until the last night in the house - if they had been a steady stream of phenomena, the family would've left earlier. The criticism of the evil force's reach also seems silly. Ghosts and demons follow people around in movies all the time - why criticize it in this instance, especially when it's taken from the book and alleged reality? I also had a problem with his complaint about not seeing Kathy's ex. He has nothing to do with the story, and the movie is already two hours long. There'd be little point to inserting him. The same thing goes for Jeff and Carolyn - they didn't come back in real life or in the book. Why shoehorn them into another scene? Michael is criticizing the film for being true to its roots. It all comes down to whether you'd prefer a somewhat-decent summary of the apparently true story, or a traditionally structured, cliched Hollywood haunted house movie. If you want the latter, watch the remake - which I'd like to point out pushed the "true story" angle much harder in its marketing and was nothing close to it, so far off, in fact, the real George Lutz attempted to sue. As the user reviews show, most people here accept the film for what it is and enjoy its low-key, off-kilter sense of creepiness. Michael doesn't need to like the film, of course, but his arguments are all very subjective and, in my opinion, somewhat misguided. |
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That being said, in writing a review, one tries to do more than just say, "I liked it" or "it sucked". You try to figure out where the reaction comes from, and the best reviewers, for me, are those who can illuminate some aspect of a film, even if you don't ultimately agree with their take. Pauline Kael was brilliant that way; even when I thought she was flat out wrong, she always had great insights. In any case, I'm grateful to be read. ![]() First, there's a difference between episodic events and choppy narrative. I cited the Lutzes' tour of the house with the broker as an example of effective storytelling, and that's as "episodic" as they come, but it unfolds on the screen in a way that feels connected and compelling. I don't see a similar coherence in the rest of the film. The Haunting from 1963 is certainly "episodic", but its narrative, mood and tone are all of a piece. Second, I don't understand how you get from my wanting a narrative with coherence to wanting "a traditionally structured, cliched Hollywood haunted house movie". The examples I used were The Shining and Alien. Those films hardly fit that description. (I have not seen the Amityville remake.) Third, I don't "complain" about not seeing Kathy's ex. I simply note that he's never mentioned, and it's a relevant point because the film's dialogue raises it. Early on, George complains that the kids still call him "George", thereby implicitly raising the question of what they're supposed to call him and whom he's replacing. A careful storyteller doesn't raise such questions without answering them (which wouldn't have been hard to do). By itself, this would be a detail, but there are others, and they add up. Fourth, ghosts and demons do follow people around in other movies, but in this movie the evil force alternates between roaming free and being very much confined to the house. Hence, all the historical information about Native American burial grounds (another embellishment on the book, if I'm not mistaken), the sickening of the priest and nun who enter, the insistence that Father Delaney "get out". Again, from a consistent cinema narrative point of view, it would have been more effective to set "rules" for the evil force, instead of making it a randomly occurring phenomenon. Confining the film to the house would have made for a much creepier film, regardless of what was in the book. But then the filmmakers would have had to forgo all that extra Catholic imagery -- not to mention Steiger's characteristic overacting ("low-key, off-kilter sense of creepiness" -- seriously?). Fifth, I never said there should be "another scene" with Jeff and Carolyn, and it doesn't make one whit of difference what the book says about them. When significant screen time has been devoted to introducing two characters and making them important, having them suddenly disappear without exit or comment is inept storytelling. The exit can be handled briefly in any number of ways (and I'm not going to suggest possibilities, lest we get sidetracked in nitpicking), but it must be dealt with somehow. Otherwise, it's the same as if I just decided not to finish a sentence and ended in mid-word. Sort of like t ![]() Sixth, I didn't mean to suggest that the the family "doesn't run away soon enough" (though, as I recall, Richard Pryor did so in one of his stand-up routines ![]() Now, I'm fully aware that storytelling is a weak point in much contemporary Hollywood fare, but so what? I'm looking at this film on its own terms. I didn't think it held up when I first saw it back in the day, and despite my hope that the passage of time would reveal something I'd previously missed (which happens all the time), it still doesn't. Side note to paulthefencer: Just to be clear, I have never claimed that the original book was fictionalized, only that the account was disputed. But there's no question that the film adds things, and it's beside the point that the remake embellished even more. Last edited by MichaelR; 08-26-2011 at 04:02 PM. Reason: fix point numbering |
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Why was Amityville just reviewed now when it has been out for so long?
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I find it odd that James Brolin didn't get a job for two years after doing this movie "because of the cruelty of his character". Jack Nicholson had no trouble finding work after doing The Shining, and his character was way more evil.
Hell, Brolin's character at least redeem's himself at the end after trying to kill his family. Can't say the same for Nicholson's character in The Shining; he straight-up died trying to kill everybody. |
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Amityville wasn't that good of a film. It had promise but just got worse and worse as it went along. Not worth buying, IMO. Carrie is a solid film but I feel like I've seen it enough and don't feel the need to own that one either. Not interested in Frankenstein.
Good to see these are coming out though. More blu rays is good for the world as whole. |
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The Smithsonian HD channel occasionally runs a documentary on the real Amityville house. You are correct, in the modern footage the house looks totally different. I assume the real estate value was being hurt because of its infamy so the owners renovated it.
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