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Old 09-20-2011, 06:14 PM   #1
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I've been tossing around the idea in my head to sell off my Pioneer Elite PRO 141FD. It's a 60" and I love it, but feel it is wasted on me, and could be used by someone who would much more appreciate it better. I am too poor to pony up the hundreds of dollars to get it professionally calibrated and unlock the sets full potential, so I would hate to see a set like this go to waste.

I am interested in Panasonic's 3D sets, and seeing as their 65" model has recently come down in price, I could easily afford that if I sell off my Elite, but not sure how much I could or should ask for the set. And I wouldn't sell my Elite unless I could get around 5 grand for it either, otherwise I would just keep it.

It's 2 years old as of this October, and is used less than 4 hours a day on average.

What do you all think? Should I sell it and buy a spiffy Panasonic 65" 3D set, or keep it and hope one day I can get it calibrated?

Thanks!
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Old 09-20-2011, 06:17 PM   #2
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Price aside, are you willing to give up better PQ for 3D and a 5" larger display?
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Old 09-20-2011, 06:22 PM   #3
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Well, I would have to see a side-by-side comparison of the two to notice any difference in them. And since Panasonic owns Pioneer's display technology, I figured these new Panny displays will just about equal the Elites no?
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Old 09-20-2011, 06:27 PM   #4
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Well, I would have to see a side-by-side comparison of the two to notice any difference in them. And since Panasonic owns Pioneer's display technology, I figured these new Panny displays will just about equal the Elites no?
Simple answer is no.
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Old 09-20-2011, 06:30 PM   #5
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Well, I would have to see a side-by-side comparison of the two to notice any difference in them. And since Panasonic owns Pioneer's display technology, I figured these new Panny displays will just about equal the Elites no?
That is not the case. Panasonic does not plan to use the Pioneer patents, they are just keeping them from the competition.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:25 PM   #6
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That is not the case. Panasonic does not plan to use the Pioneer patents, they are just keeping them from the competition.
I would love to see where you read that at. I've heard this but never seen proof.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:28 PM   #7
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I've been tossing around the idea in my head to sell off my Pioneer Elite PRO 141FD. It's a 60" and I love it, but feel it is wasted on me, and could be used by someone who would much more appreciate it better. I am too poor to pony up the hundreds of dollars to get it professionally calibrated and unlock the sets full potential, so I would hate to see a set like this go to waste.

I am interested in Panasonic's 3D sets, and seeing as their 65" model has recently come down in price, I could easily afford that if I sell off my Elite, but not sure how much I could or should ask for the set. And I wouldn't sell my Elite unless I could get around 5 grand for it either, otherwise I would just keep it.

It's 2 years old as of this October, and is used less than 4 hours a day on average.

What do you all think? Should I sell it and buy a spiffy Panasonic 65" 3D set, or keep it and hope one day I can get it calibrated?

Thanks!
Worst move you could ever make. You have the best HDTV ever made and even though it is not calibrated you should never sell the greatest HDTV ever made for a Panasonic 3D set. Of course you can do as you wish, thats just my opinion. Pioneer Kuro sets are very hard to locate these days so please think this over. Good Luck.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:41 PM   #8
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Thanks for the input so far guys.

Doing more research the top-of-the-line Panny 3D set, the VT is still at $5000 CDN here, so it would definitely not be worth my while yet to sell off my Elite. Think I will wait another year at least, see where this 3D thing goes too
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I've been tossing around the idea in my head to sell off my Pioneer Elite PRO 141FD. It's a 60" and I love it, but feel it is wasted on me, and could be used by someone who would much more appreciate it better. I am too poor to pony up the hundreds of dollars to get it professionally calibrated and unlock the sets full potential, so I would hate to see a set like this go to waste. It's 2 years old as of this October, and is used less than 4 hours a day on average.

What do you all think? Should I sell it and buy a spiffy Panasonic 65" 3D set, or keep it and hope one day I can get it calibrated?

Thanks!
If the Pioneer is only 2 years old, and being used less than 4 hours a day, the set is still practically new, so why contemplating on selling it? Calibrations are recommended (but not required) for every brand, not only Pioneer. The money that you'll get, if you decide to sell the Pioneer, you can use a portion of that money, to have the Pioneer professional calibrated, and still have one of the best HDTV's ever made.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:56 PM   #10
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If the Pioneer is only 2 years old, and being used less than 4 hours a day, the set is still practically new, so why contemplating on selling it? Calibrations are recommended (but not required) for every brand, not only Pioneer. The money that you'll get, if you decide to sell the Pioneer, you can use a portion of that money, to have the Pioneer professional calibrated, and still have one of the best HDTV's ever made.
So you're recommending that if he sells his Pioneer to use a part of the money to get it calibrated?

And if he does sell it, it won't be his anymore, so no he won't still have one of the best HDTV's ever made.

Short answer though, yes, sell it, to me, for $1.00
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:06 PM   #11
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So you're recommending that if he sells his Pioneer to use a part of the money to get it calibrated?

And if he does sell it, it won't be his anymore, so no he won't still have one of the best HDTV's ever made.

Short answer though, yes, sell it, to me, for $1.00
Cheap-@$$!

Sell it to me. I'll triple his offer to $3!

Seriously, though, you have one of the best sets ever made. You don't "need" to have it calibrated in order to fully enjoy it. Unless you really want 3D, I'd keep the Elite.
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So you're recommending that if he sells his Pioneer to use a part of the money to get it calibrated?

And if he does sell it, it won't be his anymore, so no he won't still have one of the best HDTV's ever made.

Short answer though, yes, sell it, to me, for $1.00
I've phrased it wrong! What I meant was, instead of selling his Pioneer, just pay the money and have it calibrated, if that's his only concern. The set is only 2 years old!
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:11 PM   #13
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I would love to see where you read that at. I've heard this but never seen proof.
Panasonic has never said these words (except for a rep at CES) but people with sources have said so. In fact, D-nice has said that Panasonic is too proud to use Pioneer's tech. Search AVS and HDJ.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:18 PM   #14
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Panasonic has never said these words (except for a rep at CES) but people with sources have said so. In fact, D-nice has said that Panasonic is too proud to use Pioneer's tech. Search AVS and HDJ.
Take THAT, face!

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Old 09-20-2011, 08:29 PM   #15
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Cheap-@$$!

Sell it to me. I'll triple his offer to $3!

Seriously, though, you have one of the best sets ever made. You don't "need" to have it calibrated in order to fully enjoy it. Unless you really want 3D, I'd keep the Elite.
Hey, I just had a buddy upgrade his bedroom TV and give yes GIVE me a Panny 42". Don't know the model number or anything so I don't know how it compares to most Panny's, I just know its a pretty Badass TV, and he's thinking about doing the same with his 50" Pioneer thats in his living room. I'm aloud to be cheap...

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I see I see... I was just confused...

BTW, Pioneer Kuro, as many have said, does not need to be Calibrated for full enjoyment. The only problem is Pioneer has a BAD habit of cranking their out of the box DNR setting to "Wax Museum" so just make sure that is turned off and adjust the settings to your liking. No need to buy anything else to eat when you can have a Filet Mignon every night...
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:32 PM   #16
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Apparently Panasonic are catching up:

"Images are pin-sharp, colours are wonderfully vivid yet natural and convincing and, of course, contrast is as rich as we’ve come to expect from a top-spec plasma set. In fact, we’d bet the VT30’s black levels beat Pioneer’s much-acclaimed (but long defunct) Kuro sets, which is high praise indeed."

http://www.whathifi.com/review/panasonic-tx-p65vt30

It's been quite some time since Pioneer stopped working on displays and it's not crazy to assume that their technology may have been surpassed already…

Question is: has anyone actually compared them?
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I would never give up a 141 for a 65" VT 3D or any display. People who bring this up really don't have the kind of interest in PQ the Kuro produces. They bought it cause they can and it is the best. Sell it, keep it, give it away, if you want the VT get it. If you can afford a 141 you can afford a VT too.
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Hey, I just had a buddy upgrade his bedroom TV and give yes GIVE me a Panny 42". Don't know the model number or anything so I don't know how it compares to most Panny's, I just know its a pretty Badass TV, and he's thinking about doing the same with his 50" Pioneer thats in his living room. I'm aloud to be cheap...
WOW! Your friend gave you a 42" TV? That was a blessing!
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Thanks for the input so far guys.

Doing more research the top-of-the-line Panny 3D set, the VT is still at $5000 CDN here, so it would definitely not be worth my while yet to sell off my Elite. Think I will wait another year at least, see where this 3D thing goes too
I think 3-d right now is still in it's infancy. In the meantime if you want the Elite calibrated, but are a little tight for money, you could always get a calibration disc.
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I would never give up a 141 for a 65" VT 3D or any display. People who bring this up really don't have the kind of interest in PQ the Kuro produces. They bought it cause they can and it is the best. Sell it, keep it, give it away, if you want the VT get it. If you can afford a 141 you can afford a VT too.
If I were to upgrade from a 60", it wouldn't be for a 65" that's for sure! It'll be a wall, or ceiling projection screen because, only 5 inches bigger, will not be that much of a difference.
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