The Official Bass Shaker, Buttkicker, Tactile Transducer Thread

[spaceape]

Originally Posted by Bluvette

You can look up the specs there is just a small difference between the 209 and silver. But the 209 shakes the shat out of the seat I can't imagine needing any more. I would say to drive 3 you need 200-300w.

Alright right now im thinking of getting 3x Clark Synthesis TST209. Seem too be great bang for the buck. Hmm Now i just have too find a great amp around the wattage you mentioned.

The 'Dayton Audio SA240-B 240W Subwoofer Amplifier with Boost' perhaps or pay a little more and get it in a box so it's maybe a little more estetically pleasing?

[spaceape]

Found this:

http://www.baudline.com/erik/bass/tactile_faq.html

Some pretty good info here imo.

[masterYOBA]

Is there any way to connect any of buttkickers to Sony - 1000W 5.1-Ch. 3D/Wi-Fi Blu-ray Home Theater System (model number: BDVE780W)? explain how if possible please

[Aylarja]

I was looking at the possibility of buying a Buttkicker LFE system, which I had looked at in the past but never purchased. But it seems that most Buttkicker products are now out of stock at most online retailers, including at the Buttkicker store. I searched the web and can't find any mention of Buttkicker's demise, but am wondering if that is the practical reality. Can anyone shed any light?

And can anyone suggest a Buttkicker alternative, preferably one that is similar to the Buttkicker in cost and performance? Thanks.

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by Aylarja

I was looking at the possibility of buying a Buttkicker LFE system, which I had looked at in the past but never purchased. But it seems that most Buttkicker products are now out of stock at most online retailers, including at the Buttkicker store. I searched the web and can't find any mention of Buttkicker's demise, but am wondering if that is the practical reality. Can anyone shed any light?

And can anyone suggest a Buttkicker alternative, preferably one that is similar to the Buttkicker in cost and performance? Thanks.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=...=p3286.c0.m359
http://www.parts-express.com/wizards...AT&srchCat=634
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=...=p3286.c0.m359
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=...=p3286.c0.m359

[MYBUTTSMELLS]

Originally Posted by Aylarja

I was looking at the possibility of buying a Buttkicker LFE system, which I had looked at in the past but never purchased. But it seems that most Buttkicker products are now out of stock at most online retailers, including at the Buttkicker store. I searched the web and can't find any mention of Buttkicker's demise, but am wondering if that is the practical reality. Can anyone shed any light?

And can anyone suggest a Buttkicker alternative, preferably one that is similar to the Buttkicker in cost and performance? Thanks.

Its odd that you say this as I just came across this thread. I have been looking to add another Buttkicker to our existing set up, but Amazon and Buttkicker site have been out of stock for months. I emailed Buttkicker back in January about getting a LFE system and they said they would be back in stock soon but nothing ever happened. Only place you can find them now is Ebay. So either they make very limited quantities and they sell out fast or Buttkicker is going under?



Its too bad, I just ordered a Silver Clark Synthesis and it sucks compared to the Buttkicker. Much less shake and power.

[Waszak1977]

I'm surprised that I cannot find the ButtKickers (ButtKicker LFE Kit) in the HT Gear section of this site... Is there a location that I'm missing?

I ask because its literally an integral part of my HT system & can't imagine life without them! I don't know how many others have actually tried these & not purchased a set after demo'in them!. I can say that 100% of my friends that have come over have bought the ButtKicker LFE Kit after trying it (So long as they could afford it) & they love it. Most actually bought the BK LFE system prior to buying their subwoofers!

Just a note: If you live in Apartments or a place like on Post/Base housing (Military) it's extremely nice to have mind blowing Bass & Explosions that the neighbors cannot hear

So, Where's the section? Anyone? Thx in advance!

[Aylarja]

I was looking at the possibility of buying a Buttkicker LFE system, which I had looked at in the past but never purchased. But it seems that most Buttkicker products are now out of stock at most online retailers, including at the Buttkicker store. I searched the web and can't find any mention of Buttkicker's demise, but am wondering if that is the practical reality. Can anyone shed any light?

To answer my own question: Shortly before I posted my question in this forum, I also emailed The Guitammer Company, the maker of the Buttkicker line of products, to ask about availability. Nearly a month later, I have just received a reply from Mark A. Luden of The Guitammer Company stating, "Yes we will have them in stock again, the wireless (smaller) Kit early January, the LFE Kit February."

I have to admit some amazement that a company can afford to remain out-of-stock on virtually all of its products for months at a time - especially through the highly profitable Christmas season - and itself remain profitable. But it leads me to believe that the home-product Buttkicker line is a side-light, and not its primary profit source. Anyway, good news for anyone interested in buying one of their products in the near future...

[OneDropCode1]

I'm interested in trying these out, seems cool.

2 questions:

1) Do the bass shakers work under a bed? I don't have box spring, just the mattress with frame and its where I sit while watching movies. I'm aware mattress are design to absorb vibrations but wondering if anyone done it before.

2) Is it possible to use the plate amps without building a box for it? Thinking about getting this.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-805

[Bluvette]

Originally Posted by mtgredline

I'm interested in trying these out, seems cool.

2 questions:

1) Do the bass shakers work under a bed? I don't have box spring, just the mattress with frame and its where I sit while watching movies. I'm aware mattress are design to absorb vibrations but wondering if anyone done it before.

2) Is it possible to use the plate amps without building a box for it? Thinking about getting this.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-805

Yes it should work, mount the transducer to a wooden slat that goes across the frame, it will shake the whole bed. Get 2 of these and that amp you have picked out. Enjoy.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-861

[OneDropCode1]

Originally Posted by Bluvette

Yes it should work, mount the transducer to a wooden slat that goes across the frame, it will shake the whole bed. Get 2 of these and that amp you have picked out. Enjoy.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-861

Sweet! Is it possible to hook up 3 to the amp? Thinking of hooking one up to my desktop chair also.

Edit: I found the answer to my question on parts express Q&A, seems I need an even number of shakers to provide equal power although i'm not quite sure since some people use 3 on their couch from what I read Thanks for your answer, gonna place an order soon.

[Big Daddy]

This connection would give a final impedance of 4 ohms.

[Icedburden]

Sorry, but I am having a bit of a sensory overload here. If BD or someone could help me out here. Say I have a budget of $200, what would be the best options? Thanks again.

[Nikka488]

I'm hoping someone that actually has Transducers set up can help me here. I have a 2 person Ikea couch. I was thinking about getting two:

Clark Synthesis TST209s
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-861

and a:
Bash 300W Digital Subwoofer Amplifier
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...er%20amplifier

Here are my questions:
1. Are two Transducers enough for a 2 person couch?
2. Is there a big difference between the TST209's for $79 or the next level up at $130 each?
3. Can I mount these to the frame of the couch or do I need to have something as a buffer to protect against heat?

Thank you very very very much in advance!

[Bluvette]

Originally Posted by Nikka488

I'm hoping someone that actually has Transducers set up can help me here. I have a 2 person Ikea couch. I was thinking about getting two:

Clark Synthesis TST209s
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-861

and a:
Bash 300W Digital Subwoofer Amplifier
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...er%20amplifier

Here are my questions:
1. Are two Transducers enough for a 2 person couch?
2. Is there a big difference between the TST209's for $79 or the next level up at $130 each?
3. Can I mount these to the frame of the couch or do I need to have something as a buffer to protect against heat?

Thank you very very very much in advance!

This is my exact setup, check out my HT. Put a wooden slat across the bottom of the couch and mount the 2 transducers one under each seat. More that enough shake I don't see any reason to buy the next model up. There is no heat.

[Nikka488]

Originally Posted by Bluvette

This is my exact setup, check out my HT. Put a wooden slat across the bottom of the couch and mount the 2 transducers one under each seat. More that enough shake I don't see any reason to buy the next model up. There is no heat.

Thanks for your response! It's much appreciated. Sent you a PM. Oh & rated your set up. It's awesome.

[Waszak1977]

Originally Posted by Nikka488

I'm hoping someone that actually has Transducers set up can help me here. I have a 2 person Ikea couch. I was thinking about getting two:
!

FYI, IKea Couch or expensive HT seating, Re-Enforce the crap out of them if you can.... Pushing 1000watts & 2 ButtKicker Transducers per chair only lasts so long.....

I found stuff started wiggling after a year, flipped it over & about the only thing left holding was what I built in! I wrecked my first set of HT chairs!! I found wood screws sucked! Bolts & nuts after drilling holes works best! All this depending on the effect & power you're pushing!

My new HT Couch system (Same just 4 seater) is re-enforced every which way, I just spread out all 4 buttkickers & it handles the 2000watts fine now.. I still never get over the explosions, & I've been around plenty of the real deal. This is safer & fun is all! Oh, & you can hear afterwards

[hemogoblin]

Which would be better for me, Two or three Dayton Audio mini pucks or a single Aura Pro for a single Lay-Z boy recliner chair?

Mounting them on the chairs should be easy and I already have a spare plate amp. Just wondering which would be stronger overall. Can easily put the shakers on the bottom of the chair, but not on the rear (back portion) of the chair.

Or should I just save some more $ and get something bigger like two Aura's or a Clark?

[Bluvette]

Originally Posted by Waszak1977

FYI, IKea Couch or expensive HT seating, Re-Enforce the crap out of them if you can.... Pushing 1000watts & 2 ButtKicker Transducers per chair only lasts so long.....

I found stuff started wiggling after a year, flipped it over & about the only thing left holding was what I built in! I wrecked my first set of HT chairs!! I found wood screws sucked! Bolts & nuts after drilling holes works best! All this depending on the effect & power you're pushing!

My new HT Couch system (Same just 4 seater) is re-enforced every which way, I just spread out all 4 buttkickers & it handles the 2000watts fine now.. I still never get over the explosions, & I've been around plenty of the real deal. This is safer & fun is all! Oh, & you can hear afterwards

Man you must be doing some serious shaken.

[Kali157]

Originally Posted by Nikka488

I'm hoping someone that actually has Transducers set up can help me here. I have a 2 person Ikea couch. I was thinking about getting two:

Clark Synthesis TST209s
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-861

and a:
Bash 300W Digital Subwoofer Amplifier
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...er%20amplifier

Here are my questions:
1. Are two Transducers enough for a 2 person couch?
2. Is there a big difference between the TST209's for $79 or the next level up at $130 each?
3. Can I mount these to the frame of the couch or do I need to have something as a buffer to protect against heat?

Thank you very very very much in advance!

I am not sure about the difference btwn the 209 and silver, but I followed BD's lead in the first post and bought my TST239 (sliver) on ebay. The seller had a "make an offer" option, and I got it for $100 shipped. For our couch (in the gallery for reference), the silver is plenty. I am using a BASH amp from a friend's BIC PL200, and we have it a little above 1/3 power. If we put it under 1/2 power, the "ride" becomes crazy... a little too much at times.

But I think there is an important factor indicated in the manual that gets overlooked: bracing. The manual says to use hardwood, not MDF or plywood. It is all about transferring the vibration from the shaker to your body. As I understand it, using soft materials for bracing creates loss of energy from the transducer as the bracing flexes. I would with hard wood backed with steel rods (ones you can get for adjustable wall shelves). I built a double "H" structure under the couch and attached it to the rigid, structural frame of the couch. Used construction adhesive and angle brackets where I can. Finally, don't forget to put rubber feet on the couch.

I guess what I am saying is, based on my experience with the Clark transducers, it isn't about adding more shakers. Clark makes some strong transducers (at least I can vouch for the silver). For a mid to small couch, one is plenty IMO... as long as you install it properly and provide proper bracing as per the manual.

As for heat, I don't think it runs hot... well the driver doesn't run hot... don't know about the amp if over driven.