How do you convert DTS HD/DD+ to PCM? - Blu-ray Forum

1lakerfan · 02-18-2008, 04:46 PM

I have a denon 2807 and the only hi def format it plays is PCM. I heard you can convert DD plus and DTS HD to PCM. I thought it does it automatically. When I put DTS HD and press select (ps3) its says DTS not PCM 5.1. Is my reciever capable of coverting it?

WriteSimply · 02-18-2008, 04:48 PM

How is your PS3 connected to your Denon?

fuad

BStecke · 02-18-2008, 04:50 PM

What you're talking about is having the player do the decoding and then sending it as PCM to the receiver. This works when the PS3 is set to output PCM instead of bitstream.

With DTS HDMA, the player is sending the core 1.5mbps track to the receiver to decode, which is why you're seeing DTS displayed on your receiver. It's better this way anyway, since the receiver was made to decode audio signals. While the player can also serve this function, most people prefer the component whose sole function is to serve this purpose, the receiver, to do the decoding. The PS3 does not currently support decoding of DTS HDMA, which is why you'll only get the 1.5mbps core track.

Blu-ray doesn't have DD+, but I assume you're talking about TrueHD. If the PS3 is set to output PCM, the PS3 will decode the TrueHD signal and send it to the receiver as PCM, and you'll get the full lossless experience. I typically leave the PS3 on bitstream for everything except TrueHD soundtracks.

If you change the setting on the PS3 to output PCM instead of bitstream, then it will convert everything to PCM and your receiver will read it as PCM.

1lakerfan · 02-18-2008, 07:25 PM

So if the ps gets an update that includes dts hd then my reciever should be able to convert it right? most of the that i have that are DD True HD also have PCM so theres no point in converting DD True HD

kingston brothers · 03-04-2010, 10:06 PM

you probably figered it ought but you will nee an HDMI no dought abought that go to sound seting and cilck audio oughtput settings click HDMI when you get one or alredy have one plug the HDMI from the ps3 to the audio recever onece you click HDMI on the ps3 it will show automatic and manual click automatic it will turn the formats that the recever reeds on and the ones it dusnt of, go to the movie once it starts playing click the triangal buton on the 6/dualaxes remote and go to av settings click audio oughtput format change from bitstreem to linear pcm and it should work

nautica250 · 03-04-2010, 10:34 PM

The PS3 DOES decode DTS HD MA. This was included in an update. Not sure which one......

progers13 · 03-04-2010, 10:42 PM

There is a great sticky on this subject HERE. It includes all information on how to get the HD codecs on the PS3 (fat and slim).

threefiftyrocket · 03-04-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by progers13

There is a great sticky on this subject HERE. It includes all information on how to get the HD codecs on the PS3 (fat and slim).

Overview: The PS3 has been capable of decoding DTS-HA MA for more than 2 years now. It has been capable of decoding TrueHD and PCM since launch. Since the PS3 does not have multi-channel outputs, the only way to get the HD codes is via HDMI to a compatible receiver. The fat PS3 must have its HDMI setting set to PCM (the receiver will display Multi-channel or PCM, but press select and the display on the TV will tell you the codec). The fat PS3 cannot bitstream the HD codecs; if you set it to Bitstream over HDMI, it will only transmit the lossy cores of these codecs (DD, DTS, and PCM 2.0). The slim PS3 can have this setting set to either PCM or Bitstream (if you bitstream, the receiver will tell you the codec; if you PCM, it will have the same result as the fat PS3).

I bet the OP knows this now tho... this thread is over 2 years old...

looks like someone gets the resurrecting a dead thread award for the day

progers13 · 03-04-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

I bet the OP knows this now tho... this thread is over 2 years old...

looks like someone gets the resurrecting a dead thread award for the day

Oops...you're right.

I read a couple posts before mine. Didn't realize someone had resurrected it.

threefiftyrocket · 03-04-2010, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by progers13

Oops...you're right.

I read a couple posts before mine. Didn't realize someone had resurrected it.

yeah, I didn't realize it at first... sometimes these dead threads just pop up and I forget to check

02-18-2008, 04:46 PM	#1
1lakerfan Active Member Member since:May 2007	How do you convert DTS HD/DD+ to PCM? I have a denon 2807 and the only hi def format it plays is PCM. I heard you can convert DD plus and DTS HD to PCM. I thought it does it automatically. When I put DTS HD and press select (ps3) its says DTS not PCM 5.1. Is my reciever capable of coverting it?

02-18-2008, 04:50 PM	#3
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	What you're talking about is having the player do the decoding and then sending it as PCM to the receiver. This works when the PS3 is set to output PCM instead of bitstream. With DTS HDMA, the player is sending the core 1.5mbps track to the receiver to decode, which is why you're seeing DTS displayed on your receiver. It's better this way anyway, since the receiver was made to decode audio signals. While the player can also serve this function, most people prefer the component whose sole function is to serve this purpose, the receiver, to do the decoding. The PS3 does not currently support decoding of DTS HDMA, which is why you'll only get the 1.5mbps core track. Blu-ray doesn't have DD+, but I assume you're talking about TrueHD. If the PS3 is set to output PCM, the PS3 will decode the TrueHD signal and send it to the receiver as PCM, and you'll get the full lossless experience. I typically leave the PS3 on bitstream for everything except TrueHD soundtracks. If you change the setting on the PS3 to output PCM instead of bitstream, then it will convert everything to PCM and your receiver will read it as PCM. Last edited by BStecke; 02-18-2008 at 04:55 PM.

03-04-2010, 10:06 PM	#5
kingston brothers New Member Member since:Feb 2010	pcm you probably figered it ought but you will nee an HDMI no dought abought that go to sound seting and cilck audio oughtput settings click HDMI when you get one or alredy have one plug the HDMI from the ps3 to the audio recever onece you click HDMI on the ps3 it will show automatic and manual click automatic it will turn the formats that the recever reeds on and the ones it dusnt of, go to the movie once it starts playing click the triangal buton on the 6/dualaxes remote and go to av settings click audio oughtput format change from bitstreem to linear pcm and it should work

03-04-2010, 10:42 PM	#7
progers13 Blu-ray Baron Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Tampa, FL Home Theater Gallery:83 Blu-ray collection:337 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:2	There is a great sticky on this subject HERE. It includes all information on how to get the HD codecs on the PS3 (fat and slim). Last edited by progers13; 03-04-2010 at 10:58 PM. Reason: Redundant

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02-18-2008, 04:48 PM	#2
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	How is your PS3 connected to your Denon? fuad

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1lakerfan Active Member Member since:May 2007	So if the ps gets an update that includes dts hd then my reciever should be able to convert it right? most of the that i have that are DD True HD also have PCM so theres no point in converting DD True HD

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