Profile 2.0 - Re-release Blu-rays? - Blu-ray Forum

Yuzo · 03-03-2008, 09:43 AM

i was reading up about players and discs upgrading to Profile 1.1,.. and then maybe 2.0?

i know studios re-release their discs when they find another extra to put on the disc "cough, cough Blade Runner", which can be annoying when you have just payed full price for a now outdated copy.

but when players do get all this fancy Profile 1.1 or 2.0 with PIP, etc. will these "early" release discs become obsolete?... will the studios re-release all of their discs when they start releasing newer discs with higher profile capabilities, and extra cool features?

i was also happy to read that the PS3 is capable of upgrading profile via a simple update

dpomp · 03-03-2008, 09:47 AM

i sure hope not. but more than likely there will be some re-releases

Yuzo · 03-03-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dpompeo

i sure hope not. but more than likely there will be some re-releases

that makes me want to stop buying blu-rays for the moment

FallenAngel78 · 03-03-2008, 10:30 AM

I would suspect that they are going to work on getting movies released on Blu-ray that have NOT been released so far rather then re-releasing all their titles for the new profile. I know that a few have already been re-released but here's to hoping they work on getting out the new releases and catalog titles before re-releasing movies. Just my two cents though.

Daredevil666 · 03-03-2008, 10:48 AM

Hmm, expect double dips sooner than you think, especially with the astounding level of releases using 5 to 10 years old HD masters we had so far. I'm all for a new Top Gun (with extras), Getaway, Appolo 13, to name just a few.

Blade Runner should draw the line as far as remasters go : rescan all the elements, redo all composites, redo an identical title sequence lettering (in order to avoid wavering and the image element being softer because of the analog compositing, how many BR movies have bad looking title sequence, then a switch to pristine image ?). I don't care about how much it cost, it's about preserving movies for this century. Anything less on Blu Ray in unnaceptable in my opinion.

DrXym · 03-03-2008, 10:52 AM

I wouldn't hold your breath. It took something like 5 years for WB to reissue Goodfellas on DVD. The first version was a flipper.

Besides, the features of 1.1 and 2.0 are largely superficial. I would be more interested in a re-release if it fixed any issues with the movie quality of the first version, not for some crappy mini games, a web portal or other marginal content.

Squozen · 03-03-2008, 11:00 AM

I don't think it's fair to call Blade Runner a double dip - we've known for years that the cuts on home video weren't the final cut. That's why I haven't owned a copy up until now, I just watched friend's copies until the final cut finally came out.

Yuzo · 03-03-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DrXym

Besides, the features of 1.1 and 2.0 are largely superficial. I would be more interested in a re-release if it fixed any issues with the movie quality of the first version, not for some crappy mini games, a web portal or other marginal content.

i suppose that puts things into perspective,

what are going to be the differances between 1.1 and 2.0?

the only thing i thought they were upgrading was the ability for PIP,

but cant 1.1 already do this?

darkpoet25 · 03-03-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuzo

i suppose that puts things into perspective,

what are going to be the differances between 1.1 and 2.0?

the only thing i thought they were upgrading was the ability for PIP,

but cant 1.1 already do this?

Yes 1.1 does do PiP, but 2.0 will allow for more interactivity, such as downloading new trailers, accessing an online merchandise store, etc. It's bascially going to be the same thing that was on hd dvd that their fans were touting being able to have from the beginning. I think most people on here couldn't care less though. I for one am looking forward to the Fox titles that have a seperate dsic for a digital copy of the movie so I can transfer it to my PSP.

Yuzo · 03-03-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by darkpoet25

but 2.0 will allow for more interactivity, such as downloading new trailers, accessing an online merchandise store, etc.

that sounds pretty useless tbh.

havnt they started releasing 1.1 blu-rays?...

.. wasnt the new resident evil the first one to feature this?

SpaceDog · 03-03-2008, 01:02 PM

I've actually been holding off for the inevitable 300 rerelease for forever.

darkpoet25 · 03-03-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuzo

that sounds pretty useless tbh.

havnt they started releasing 1.1 blu-rays?...

.. wasnt the new resident evil the first one to feature this?

Yes RE: Extinction uses PiP, which I thought was pretty cool. It was only during certain parts of the movie, but they showed story board comparisons, as well as interviews.

canonball · 03-03-2008, 01:45 PM

Please forgive me if this is a tired question.

What is PIP, exactly?

I did several searches and tried the glossary, but came up with nothing.

MOONPHASE · 03-03-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by canonball

Please forgive me if this is a tired question.

What is PIP, exactly?

I did several searches and tried the glossary, but came up with nothing.

picture in picture it shows you video commentary of the creators and actors while watching the movie

canonball · 03-03-2008, 01:51 PM

Thank you

That actually sounds pretty cool. I could certainly live without it, but I could see myself giving it a try.

If there is no difference in pq from a 1.1 to a 2.0, then I won't be bothered at all. I rarely reference the extras. My only real concern is the actual movie.

savage1984 · 03-03-2008, 01:54 PM

I think the studios are savvy enough to know when to piss off fans and when not to. If the movie is out, they won't be rereleasing it for a while. They did for fifth element and a few others. But the majority 99% will be new releases. I mean these companies want to make money. Getting out newer films (and old ones too) not repeats gets the money.
As the Geicko Gecko says, "simple, really."

trey · 03-04-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Yuzo

that makes me want to stop buying blu-rays for the moment

just make sure you are getting a copy with good PQ/SQ, they won't re-release a title unless they're updating the audio to lossless, or if like terminator 3 there was an error in the encode.

dpomp · 03-04-2008, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SpaceDog

I've actually been holding off for the inevitable 300 rerelease for forever.

!!!

!!! is this a rumor or are they really re-releasing 300? link please

03-03-2008, 09:43 AM	#1
Yuzo Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:UK 4K collection:22 Blu-ray collection:48	Profile 2.0 - Re-release Blu-rays? i was reading up about players and discs upgrading to Profile 1.1,.. and then maybe 2.0? i know studios re-release their discs when they find another extra to put on the disc "cough, cough Blade Runner", which can be annoying when you have just payed full price for a now outdated copy. but when players do get all this fancy Profile 1.1 or 2.0 with PIP, etc. will these "early" release discs become obsolete?... will the studios re-release all of their discs when they start releasing newer discs with higher profile capabilities, and extra cool features? i was also happy to read that the PS3 is capable of upgrading profile via a simple update

03-03-2008, 10:48 AM	#5
Daredevil666 Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Future Earth Blu-ray reviews:1	Hmm, expect double dips sooner than you think, especially with the astounding level of releases using 5 to 10 years old HD masters we had so far. I'm all for a new Top Gun (with extras), Getaway, Appolo 13, to name just a few. Blade Runner should draw the line as far as remasters go : rescan all the elements, redo all composites, redo an identical title sequence lettering (in order to avoid wavering and the image element being softer because of the analog compositing, how many BR movies have bad looking title sequence, then a switch to pristine image ?). I don't care about how much it cost, it's about preserving movies for this century. Anything less on Blu Ray in unnaceptable in my opinion. Last edited by Daredevil666; 03-03-2008 at 10:54 AM.

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03-03-2008, 09:47 AM	#2
dpomp ₯ Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Texas PSN: dpomp131 Blu-ray collection:231 Trading Score:19	i sure hope not. but more than likely there will be some re-releases

03-03-2008, 10:30 AM	#4
FallenAngel78 Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Ontario, Canada	I would suspect that they are going to work on getting movies released on Blu-ray that have NOT been released so far rather then re-releasing all their titles for the new profile. I know that a few have already been re-released but here's to hoping they work on getting out the new releases and catalog titles before re-releasing movies. Just my two cents though.

03-03-2008, 10:52 AM	#6
DrXym Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	I wouldn't hold your breath. It took something like 5 years for WB to reissue Goodfellas on DVD. The first version was a flipper. Besides, the features of 1.1 and 2.0 are largely superficial. I would be more interested in a re-release if it fixed any issues with the movie quality of the first version, not for some crappy mini games, a web portal or other marginal content.

03-03-2008, 11:00 AM	#7
Squozen Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:80	I don't think it's fair to call Blade Runner a double dip - we've known for years that the cuts on home video weren't the final cut. That's why I haven't owned a copy up until now, I just watched friend's copies until the final cut finally came out.

03-03-2008, 01:02 PM	#11
SpaceDog Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Raleigh, NC Blu-ray collection:116	I've actually been holding off for the inevitable 300 rerelease for forever.

03-03-2008, 01:45 PM	#13
canonball Member Member since:Feb 2008	Please forgive me if this is a tired question. What is PIP, exactly? I did several searches and tried the glossary, but came up with nothing.

03-03-2008, 01:51 PM	#15
canonball Member Member since:Feb 2008	Thank you That actually sounds pretty cool. I could certainly live without it, but I could see myself giving it a try. If there is no difference in pq from a 1.1 to a 2.0, then I won't be bothered at all. I rarely reference the extras. My only real concern is the actual movie.

03-03-2008, 01:54 PM	#16
savage1984 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Los Angeles	I think the studios are savvy enough to know when to piss off fans and when not to. If the movie is out, they won't be rereleasing it for a while. They did for fifth element and a few others. But the majority 99% will be new releases. I mean these companies want to make money. Getting out newer films (and old ones too) not repeats gets the money. As the Geicko Gecko says, "simple, really."

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