Capricorn One

[gettodamoofies]

Database entry

I picked this up cheap from Big W. Doesn't seem to be too much info floating about for it so I figured it deserved its own thread. I remember seeing it late in the 90's and as a sci-fi fan and a mystery/thriller fan I enjoyed it a fair bit. Looking forward to revisiting it. I don't expect it to hold up so well but who knows.

I'll post some technical specs and screenshots later on and my thoughts once I've had a chance to watch it.

[gettodamoofies]

BDInfo scan:

                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00002.MPLS                                                      MPEG-2  2:03:09 20,505,913,344  21,011,118,921  22.20   20.94   DD AC3 2.0 224Kbps

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     CAPRICORN
Disc Size:      21,011,118,921 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00002.MPLS
Length:                 2:03:09.000 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   20,505,913,344 bytes
Total Bitrate:          22.20 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-2 Video            20940 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         34.257 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00004.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:03:09.000     20,505,913,344  22,202          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:03.875     19,247 kbps     30,706 kbps     00:02:37.291    25,757 kbps     00:02:33.333    25,262 kbps     00:05:04.625    100,233 bytes   702,669 bytes   00:06:00.916    
2               0:06:03.875     0:06:14.583     21,033 kbps     31,028 kbps     00:10:36.125    24,960 kbps     00:10:36.125    23,806 kbps     00:10:34.125    109,548 bytes   703,063 bytes   00:07:27.791    
3               0:12:18.458     0:15:08.583     19,885 kbps     30,536 kbps     00:12:57.750    26,870 kbps     00:26:35.541    26,356 kbps     00:26:35.125    103,568 bytes   703,063 bytes   00:21:34.666    
4               0:27:27.041     0:10:22.291     20,293 kbps     38,437 kbps     00:34:01.625    30,153 kbps     00:33:59.875    26,195 kbps     00:33:58.166    105,695 bytes   703,063 bytes   00:30:45.541    
5               0:37:49.333     0:10:20.375     19,496 kbps     27,516 kbps     00:44:14.875    23,502 kbps     00:44:13.750    21,857 kbps     00:44:11.375    101,540 bytes   703,070 bytes   00:44:40.416    
6               0:48:09.708     0:07:36.916     21,400 kbps     39,038 kbps     00:51:47.416    30,286 kbps     00:51:44.625    28,980 kbps     00:51:24.375    111,458 bytes   703,064 bytes   00:54:07.916    
7               0:55:46.625     0:13:13.458     20,097 kbps     37,210 kbps     01:05:39.375    26,153 kbps     00:59:57.500    25,018 kbps     01:02:47.500    104,672 bytes   703,063 bytes   00:58:04.666    
8               1:09:00.083     0:09:10.625     23,870 kbps     33,351 kbps     01:09:55.875    31,151 kbps     01:09:53.875    29,693 kbps     01:09:51.375    124,323 bytes   702,170 bytes   01:12:20.041    
9               1:18:10.708     0:14:39.833     22,193 kbps     35,925 kbps     01:24:42.875    31,695 kbps     01:24:53.000    31,623 kbps     01:24:50.750    115,587 bytes   703,067 bytes   01:23:11.041    
10              1:32:50.541     0:09:09.833     20,786 kbps     33,546 kbps     01:33:59.500    26,315 kbps     01:33:55.500    24,436 kbps     01:33:50.500    108,263 bytes   703,069 bytes   01:41:11.041    
11              1:42:00.375     0:02:42.833     18,512 kbps     26,162 kbps     01:42:20.583    21,936 kbps     01:42:16.625    21,337 kbps     01:42:11.583    96,419 bytes    692,257 bytes   01:43:11.041    
12              1:44:43.208     0:18:25.791     21,901 kbps     39,929 kbps     01:57:10.000    33,932 kbps     01:57:08.750    30,586 kbps     01:59:04.250    114,072 bytes   703,067 bytes   02:00:58.666    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00004.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x02            MPEG-2                                  7388.875                20,941                  19,340,914,139  105,216,711     
00004.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           7388.875                224                     206,892,672     1,154,535       
00004.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           7388.875                34                      31,641,056      182,827

Bitrate graph:

[Anamnesis]

I actually grabbed this and watched awhile ago, wasn't an awful transfer, but certainly isn't demo material. The film was pretty good though! Interesting concept.

[gettodamoofies]

^ Just did some screenshots now. Skimming it and yes it's an old average master with some edge enhancement but there are an awful lot of soft shots which are source related. It could definitely look a lot better but considering the price I paid (less than the DVD) any minor increase is an improvement.

Speaking of screenshots: click spoiler tag to reveal.

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Disclaimer: These screenshots have been taken directly from the disc with no post processing other than the placement of a watermark. They are PNG format so the file size is larger however this retains the original image quality. They are of course only intended as an indication of the quality of the title. As always, a motion picture should be viewed in motion.

As for the film, I'm a sucker for some of those 70's/80's old school thriller/conspiracy/sci-fi type films. That, plus it's got a heap of actors I don't mind including Hal Holbrook and Sam Waterston.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by atexp80

^ Just did some screenshots now. Skimming it and yes it's an old average master with some edge enhancement but there are an awful lot of soft shots which are source related.

I am not seeing any edge-enhancement, atex. Unless you wish to count that extremely light halo in the first shot. If there is nothing elsewhere in the film, I'd say this is a pretty good transfer. It might be from a dated master, but it has an organic look.

It appears to be the same one ITV used.

Pro-B

[gettodamoofies]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

I am not seeing any edge-enhancement, atex. Unless you wish to count that extremely light halo in the first shot. If there is nothing elsewhere in the film, I'd say this is a pretty good transfer. It might be from a dated master, but it has an organic look.

It appears to be the same one ITV used.

Pro-B

It's an identical disc. We even get the UK ratings logos printed on it.

There aren't really instances of edge enhancement in those shots other than some haloing in the first shot like you mentioned (particularly around OJ's hair) but there are some instances out in the desert following the

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where the haloing is more prominent. Shots with the mountains against the sky fare the worst.

Here are a couple showing what I'm seeing:

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I'm not complaining though. It's certainly not terrible, fairly light on in fact which is why I only mentioned it off-hand. If anything it's really the fact that it's a dated master on show affecting the overall picture quality but considering the film and the price point it's to be expected. Considering the bargain basement price I paid any improvement is a plus. For others paying more that may not be the case but considering it can be had for $5 and under it's well worth the price of admission particularly considering how fond I am of the film.

Good to see you over in the Aussie forums as well! Here's hoping Umbrella get you to do some more reviews of their discs. Their release of Scanners is excellent!

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by atexp80

It's an identical disc. We even get the UK ratings logos printed on it.

I see, atex

Originally Posted by atexp80

I'm not complaining though. It's certainly not terrible, fairly light on in fact which is why I only mentioned it off-hand. If anything it's really the fact that it's a dated master on show affecting the overall picture quality but considering the film and the price point it's to be expected.

Yes, I completely agree. I actually have the ITV disc and am quite pleased with it. I am fine with transfers that have been struck from dated masters, especially for films such as this one. As long as someone did not go in and tried to color-correct, re-sharpen, etc., I am fine. Such is the economic reality - you cannot have brand new scans for every film.

Originally Posted by atexp80

Good to see you over in the Aussie forums as well! Here's hoping Umbrella get you to do some more reviews of their discs. Their release of Scanners is excellent!

I often read the forum Umbrella are terrific guys, but we do not have an Amazon affiliate yet so it is a bit difficult to cover unique releases. But maybe this year we could do more.

See you around, atexp

Pro-B

[MainTitle]

This is a great movie and still holds up 35 years later.

Picture quality is a cut above the DVD (compare the end credits in red on the DVD - can hardly be read clearly) but sound wise it's lacking. The US DVD offered 5.1 Dolby Digital and the soundtrack blasted out of the speakers. Jerry Goldsmith's wonderful music score never sounded better!

Still a fave after all these years.

[#Darren]

I think this was the first BD i ever bought. Imported it from the UK.