How Green Was My Valley (1941) - January 15,2013 - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

Yami · 01-18-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkadin

4 stars for PQ.

Movie 4.0
Video 5.0
Audio 4.0
Extras 3.0
Overall 4.0

?

Arkadin · 01-19-2013, 12:57 AM

totally bizarre--I swear it had PQ at 4 stars when I looked at the review earlier.
so confused.

crazyman · 01-19-2013, 12:16 PM

Another horrid review from Blu-ray - almost as horrid as the review for Letter From an Unknown Woman. This is a great film. A poetic masterpiece right from the very soul of America's greatest filmmaker.

MEB · 01-27-2013, 03:51 PM

I watched 'How Green was my Valley' last night. Unfortunately, I noticed some lip sync issues at the beginning of the film. After a bit, I stopped noticing them. Either my brain got adjusted to it or it got better after about 20-30 minutes into the film.

My A/V receiver has an adjustment for lip sync. I use the lip sync test tone on the WOW disc to perfectly set the delay. I've not had lip sync issues on any other movie.

Maybe the problem is endemic in the film? Has anyone else watched their copy HGWMV and noticed lip sync issues?

Mark

JackTwist · 01-27-2013, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEB

I watched 'How Green was my Valley' last night. Unfortunately, I noticed some lip sync issues at the beginning of the film. After a bit, I stopped noticing them. Either my brain got adjusted to it or it got better after about 20-30 minutes into the film.

My A/V receiver has an adjustment for lip sync. I use the lip sync test tone on the WOW disc to perfectly set the delay. I've not had lip sync issues on any other movie.

Maybe the problem is endemic in the film? Has anyone else watched their copy HGWMV and noticed lip sync issues?

Mark

To my knowledge, I didn't notice the issue on my viewing. I was paying close attention to the film as it was the first time I had seen it. Perhaps I missed it or it could be an issue with your copy. Hopefully someone else can chime in with an observation either way.

bigshot · 01-27-2013, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyman

Another horrid review from Blu-ray - almost as horrid as the review for Letter From an Unknown Woman. This is a great film. A poetic masterpiece right from the very soul of America's greatest filmmaker.

Most internet video reviewers are teenage kids with teenage kid tastes. They discuss the "depth" of superhero movies at length and movies like "The Quiet Man" and "How Green Was My Valley" soar right over their heads. All they know of older movies are the "greatest hits" selections like "Citizen Kane", "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" and "Casablanca". Even greater films like "Night of the Hunter", "Sunrise", "Greed" and "How Green Was My Valley" aren't even on their radar.

Obviously this particular reviewer doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to cinematography. Gregg Toland's work is wonderful, but every single shot in "How Green Was My Valley" is exquisitely composed and lit in a way that no other movie in the history of cinema has ever matched. You could take just about any frame of the film and frame it as a beautiful still photograph on the wall. It's almost too rich with beautiful imagery. The camerawork on HGWMV is so immaculately crafted, it almost upstages the actors.

Just look at the screenshot gallery... Amazing imagery!
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/How-G...2/#Screenshots

retablo · 01-30-2013, 06:20 AM

No lip sync issues here either. Sounds like your setup to me.

$8.99 at Costco.

Arkadin · 02-02-2013, 09:11 PM

watched this bd today and it looks absolutely INCREDIBLE.
definitely in the top 5 of b&w bds I have ever seen as far as PQ.
I mean WOW!

of course the film is fantastic also.

kudos to Fox on a total grand slam release.

Vw Driver · 02-02-2013, 10:30 PM

My order should arrive sometime at the end of week, can't wait to see it for the first time ever.

RBBrittain · 02-03-2013, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retablo

$8.99 at Costco.

And $9.98 at Sam's Club, if you can find it (I don't have Costco in my area). The nearest Sam's to me didn't have it when I got Gentleman's Agreement the other day; I went to the other Sam's today figuring they'd have it, and they did.

bigshot · 02-03-2013, 03:28 AM

This is one hell of a fantastic transfer! Yow!

retablo · 02-03-2013, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigshot

This is one hell of a fantastic transfer! Yow!

+ 1 trillion

DetroitSquirreL · 02-07-2013, 04:11 PM

Anyone know if the French DigiBook has the same extras? More? less?

michaelgsmith · 03-11-2013, 04:50 PM

HGWMV didn't wow me quite as much as last year's Fox Blu of The Grapes of Wrath but this John Ford masterpiece is still an essential purchase for lovers of classic Hollywood cinema. My review: http://whitecitycinema.com/2013/03/1...was-my-valley/

whitesheik · 03-11-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bluknight1

*Sigh*
Once again, the original mono track is only in lossy DD 1.0. EVEN when there is PLENTY of space for a lossless track. It's probably just a direct port from the DVD. The surround mix will be excellent for the score. However, on the DVD the dialogue in the remix suffered from crackles and sibillance that did not appear in the mono mix. This is a disappointment for me, but I will still buy. Hopefully today's restoration equipment will have attenuated the problems in both mixes.

*sigh* and if someone sat you in a room and played you two tracks of the mono - one lossless and one not, you actually think you'd be able to tell the difference in sound from a film from this era - because you wouldn't.

whitesheik · 03-11-2013, 05:29 PM

I'm sorry, but how does a reviewer in this day and age think a transfer like this has ANY possibility of being taken from a 35mm print?

RBBrittain · 03-11-2013, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitesheik

I'm sorry, but how does a reviewer in this day and age think a transfer like this has ANY possibility of being taken from a 35mm print?

Are you questioning "35mm" or "print"? If it's a theatrical release from 1941, it's almost certainly 35mm; IIRC, 16mm was never used in theaters and they didn't have 70mm back then, much less d-cinema.

And though there's a good chance the OCN no longer exists, there's probably still some high-quality prints out there that could produce a good transfer.

toddly6666 · 03-12-2013, 01:22 PM

Anyone want to buy my Blu-ray for 15 bucks?

This has got to be the most overrated, awful, boring classic I've ever seen - and I love old classics.

Arkadin · 03-12-2013, 01:38 PM

wow. seriously??

surprised you didn't like it a little more.

Abdrewes · 03-12-2013, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddly6666

Anyone want to buy my Blu-ray for 15 bucks?

This has got to be the most overrated, awful, boring classic I've ever seen - and I love old classics.

People are listing $9 prices, are you freakin serious with that $15 push?

01-19-2013, 12:57 AM	#22
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	totally bizarre--I swear it had PQ at 4 stars when I looked at the review earlier. so confused.

01-19-2013, 12:16 PM	#23
crazyman Banned Member since:Mar 2011 Blu-ray collection:200	Another horrid review from Blu-ray - almost as horrid as the review for Letter From an Unknown Woman. This is a great film. A poetic masterpiece right from the very soul of America's greatest filmmaker.

01-27-2013, 03:51 PM	#24
MEB Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2009 Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:151 Blu-ray collection:1446 DVD collection:71 iTunes collection:21 Trading Score:1	I watched 'How Green was my Valley' last night. Unfortunately, I noticed some lip sync issues at the beginning of the film. After a bit, I stopped noticing them. Either my brain got adjusted to it or it got better after about 20-30 minutes into the film. My A/V receiver has an adjustment for lip sync. I use the lip sync test tone on the WOW disc to perfectly set the delay. I've not had lip sync issues on any other movie. Maybe the problem is endemic in the film? Has anyone else watched their copy HGWMV and noticed lip sync issues? Mark

01-30-2013, 06:20 AM	#27
retablo Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hollywood Blu-ray collection:1307 Trading Score:1	No lip sync issues here either. Sounds like your setup to me. $8.99 at Costco.

02-02-2013, 09:11 PM	#28
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	watched this bd today and it looks absolutely INCREDIBLE. definitely in the top 5 of b&w bds I have ever seen as far as PQ. I mean WOW! of course the film is fantastic also. kudos to Fox on a total grand slam release.

02-02-2013, 10:30 PM	#29
Vw Driver Special Member Member since:Jan 2012 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:287 Blu-ray collection:1483 DVD collection:73 Trading Score:4	My order should arrive sometime at the end of week, can't wait to see it for the first time ever.

02-03-2013, 03:28 AM	#31
bigshot Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2010 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:82 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:3	This is one hell of a fantastic transfer! Yow!

02-07-2013, 04:11 PM	#33
DetroitSquirreL Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Detroit, MI ~ USA Blu-ray collection:513 Trading Score:122	Anyone know if the French DigiBook has the same extras? More? less?

03-11-2013, 04:50 PM	#34
michaelgsmith Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Chicago	HGWMV didn't wow me quite as much as last year's Fox Blu of The Grapes of Wrath but this John Ford masterpiece is still an essential purchase for lovers of classic Hollywood cinema. My review: http://whitecitycinema.com/2013/03/1...was-my-valley/

03-11-2013, 05:29 PM	#36
whitesheik Banned Member since:Aug 2009	I'm sorry, but how does a reviewer in this day and age think a transfer like this has ANY possibility of being taken from a 35mm print?

03-12-2013, 01:22 PM	#38
toddly6666 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Hong Kong Home Theater Gallery:20 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1441 DVD collection:31 Blu-ray reviews: 290 Trading Score:61	Anyone want to buy my Blu-ray for 15 bucks? This has got to be the most overrated, awful, boring classic I've ever seen - and I love old classics.

03-12-2013, 01:38 PM	#39
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	wow. seriously?? surprised you didn't like it a little more.

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