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dialog_gvf · 03-21-2008, 06:04 PM

It was so stupid of Joe not to simply state a preference, and argue the straight truth.

He lost me when he said MPEG-2 was the reason for early BDs being poor. He knew DTheater looked great despite the bandwidth losses HE discovered in the output from the decks.

It's like I knew who I was dealing with the A-man when he wanted to push the idea that MPEG-2 VBR was inferior to MPEG-2 CBR (simple logic: if this was so, then MPEG-2 VBR can be be adjusted to CBR).

He and Joe wanted to push "Blu-ray bad" and did so wearing the badge of authority. Unforgivable.

Gary

ruvic · 03-21-2008, 08:25 PM

Are the THX glasses(color filters) included or you need to order them separately?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Nothing about Avia

It came today, I flipped through it a bit, but waiting for night to calibrate

Right off the bat, immensely superior to the SD DVD. You get each test like a chapter selection. On each side when you flip the chapters, you get a short description of what it's supposed to do and how to use each test

The downside is that the Demo material clips are all 720p, but they still look great mind you, and still serve their function of tossing hard stuff at decoders and your display to test its quality.

HDJK · 03-22-2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Nothing about Avia

It came today, I flipped through it a bit, but waiting for night to calibrate

Right off the bat, immensely superior to the SD DVD. You get each test like a chapter selection. On each side when you flip the chapters, you get a short description of what it's supposed to do and how to use each test

The downside is that the Demo material clips are all 720p, but they still look great mind you, and still serve their function of tossing hard stuff at decoders and your display to test its quality.

Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTK

I just can't do it. Given how much of a shill and tool Joe Kane was/has been for HD-DVD I simply cannot do it with a clear conscience.

I hope Avia comes out with a high def disc of their own.

And then there is that. I think I'll hold out for Avia as well.

cartman781 · 03-22-2008, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

I'm getting it from Amazon. The HD-DVD version seemed to be well liked, so this one should be good as well.

Are we getting ther "good enough" encodes?

DetroitSportsFan · 03-22-2008, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman781

Are we getting ther "good enough" encodes?

Probably.

saprano · 03-24-2008, 04:02 AM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V6LST0 about time! Im defenitly getting this.

anybody else? I wanted a blu-ray version for a long time.

ResOGlas · 03-24-2008, 04:14 AM

Got it preordered.

Whytewash · 03-24-2008, 04:24 AM

Its about goddam time that this gets released. i have already preordered it!

I have been waiting for this for some time now

turboedguy · 03-24-2008, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResOGlas

Got it preordered.

As I.

JESSE-INTERACTIVE · 03-24-2008, 04:33 AM

Good Stuff!!!

CobraComander · 03-24-2008, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResOGlas

Got it preordered.

Same here...been waiting......

bhampton · 03-24-2008, 12:27 PM

Hey,

The HD DVD version that was out was the DVE you can find on DVD,.. just the HD version.

The this that's coming out now is titled "HD Basics" and from what I understand give you only the most basic test patterns.

Add to that the Demo material on the disc is 720p... WTH? Stuff that just pop in I Am Legend or Enchanted and see demo material in 1080p,.. sheesh.

I will rent this version of DVE but I think the "HD Basics" is the signal that a more complete version is in the works. My display device is CRT Front Projector which is very tedious to set up and Red,.. Green, and Blue are all seperately tuned for Geometry, Focus, and White Balance or Grey Scale. So, I don't want something that's only slightly more detailed then the THX optimode patterns or the Disney Setup screens on that Rat movie.

-Brian

Jim L · 03-24-2008, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTK

I just can't do it. Given how much of a shill and tool Joe Kane was/has been for HD-DVD I simply cannot do it with a clear conscience.

I hope Avia comes out with a high def disc of their own.

I can't rationalize giving him any support when he outright lied about HD disc formats in his quotes over at WSR (Widescreen Review).

I respected him at one time. But no more (after he shilled with rest of the gang over there.) I think it's payback time for some of the parties who conspired to harm the home theater industry for their personal gain.

brazzle · 03-24-2008, 09:19 PM

Hey all,

I did a search and checked a couple of pages but didn't see this. I had DVE on Blu-Ray pre-ordered and I just got notification that it shipped today from Amazon.

Woohoo.

iNCREDiPiNOY · 03-24-2008, 09:25 PM

What's DVE?

brazzle · 03-24-2008, 09:26 PM

sorry, I should've been more clear.

DVE = Digital Video Essentials

mdabb · 03-24-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iNCREDiPiNOY

What's DVE?

It's a radio station here in pittsburgh

Actually it is a callibration disc and I have one on the way too

Bango · 03-24-2008, 09:35 PM

Ok...who wants to let me borrow it once they're done with it...

Layd Dly · 03-24-2008, 09:35 PM

Just ordered mine today, Im interested to see how different it is than the one they released on HD DVD combo last year.

ruvic · 03-24-2008, 09:39 PM

You can borrow it from me .. $18.95 borrowers' fee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bango

Ok...who wants to let me borrow it once they're done with it...

03-24-2008, 04:02 AM	#26
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	Digital Video Essentials (Blu-ray) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V6LST0 about time! Im defenitly getting this. anybody else? I wanted a blu-ray version for a long time.

03-24-2008, 09:19 PM	#34
brazzle New Member Member since:Nov 2007	DVE on Blu-ray just shipped from Amazon Hey all, I did a search and checked a couple of pages but didn't see this. I had DVE on Blu-Ray pre-ordered and I just got notification that it shipped today from Amazon. Woohoo.

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03-21-2008, 06:04 PM	#21
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	It was so stupid of Joe not to simply state a preference, and argue the straight truth. He lost me when he said MPEG-2 was the reason for early BDs being poor. He knew DTheater looked great despite the bandwidth losses HE discovered in the output from the decks. It's like I knew who I was dealing with the A-man when he wanted to push the idea that MPEG-2 VBR was inferior to MPEG-2 CBR (simple logic: if this was so, then MPEG-2 VBR can be be adjusted to CBR). He and Joe wanted to push "Blu-ray bad" and did so wearing the badge of authority. Unforgivable. Gary

03-24-2008, 04:14 AM	#27
ResOGlas Active Member Member since:Jul 2007	Got it preordered.

03-24-2008, 04:24 AM	#28
Whytewash Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:'Couve, WA Blu-ray collection:60 Blu-ray reviews:1	Its about goddam time that this gets released. i have already preordered it! I have been waiting for this for some time now

03-24-2008, 04:33 AM	#30
JESSE-INTERACTIVE Active Member Member since:Mar 2008	Good Stuff!!!

03-24-2008, 12:27 PM	#32
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:989 Blu-ray collection:2545 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Hey, The HD DVD version that was out was the DVE you can find on DVD,.. just the HD version. The this that's coming out now is titled "HD Basics" and from what I understand give you only the most basic test patterns. Add to that the Demo material on the disc is 720p... WTH? Stuff that just pop in I Am Legend or Enchanted and see demo material in 1080p,.. sheesh. I will rent this version of DVE but I think the "HD Basics" is the signal that a more complete version is in the works. My display device is CRT Front Projector which is very tedious to set up and Red,.. Green, and Blue are all seperately tuned for Geometry, Focus, and White Balance or Grey Scale. So, I don't want something that's only slightly more detailed then the THX optimode patterns or the Disney Setup screens on that Rat movie. -Brian

03-24-2008, 09:25 PM	#35
iNCREDiPiNOY Banned Member since:Aug 2007 Location:NoHo, Cali PSN:iNCREDiPiNOY Wii:6379344902430379 Blu-ray collection:143 Trading Score:16	What's DVE?

03-24-2008, 09:26 PM	#36
brazzle New Member Member since:Nov 2007	sorry, I should've been more clear. DVE = Digital Video Essentials

03-24-2008, 09:35 PM	#38
Bango Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:San Diego, CA Trading Score:4	Ok...who wants to let me borrow it once they're done with it...

03-24-2008, 09:35 PM	#39
Layd Dly Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Orlando, Florida Home Theater Gallery:83 Blu-ray collection:405 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	Just ordered mine today, Im interested to see how different it is than the one they released on HD DVD combo last year.

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