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Old 03-29-2008, 05:30 PM   #1
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Default bose responds to the frequency response of their speakers

I was reading the forums of audioholics when i came upon a thread about bose(they seem to everyware now, like the one im making now ) seems like sombody contacted then about there speakers and hear is what they had to say
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I was goofing around and thought i would see what bose had to say about frequency response, thought i would share it with everyone.




Bose Response to me:
Bose's Response: Thank you for your inquiry. Bose Corporation does not publish frequency responses, simply because they are not accurate and usually will mislead the customer.
Frequency responses are usually measured with testing equipment set up in an anechoic chamber. An anechoic chamber is an isolated room designed so that sound will not reflect off any surfaces. Giving out such frequency response results is terrific- for those people who live in anechoic chambers! Most of us listen to our systems in rooms with very reflective surfaces, such as plaster, brick, glass, and dry wall, so the frequency response that a manufacturer may supply is no longer accurate. Just as no two rooms have the same dimensions, nor are they decorated exactly the same or have the same construction, no two rooms will sound the same when using the exact same speakers and amplifier.
For example, if you were to place any speaker in a room with no carpeting and wooden furniture, you would hear something completely different than if they were placed in a room with shag carpeting and plush furniture. Perhaps
this can be equated by imagining a single lighted candle placed in a room with completely black floors, walls and ceiling. Obviously, the same candle when placed in a room with white surroundings will appear to be emitting
much more light than when placed in the first room with black surroundings, as the light will reflect a great deal more off the white surfaces. Sound reflects off surfaces, much like light does. The surroundings make the speakers sound different in the same manner, because they actually are able to reproduce different frequencies via sound reflection and speaker placement.

We hope you do not take the fact that we do not publish speaker frequency responses personally. We do not publish our speakers specifications to anybody, whether it be before or after they have purchased a speaker system of ours. We simply invite our customers ....
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...t=38446&page=3

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Old 03-29-2008, 05:38 PM   #2
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when i start making amps i am not going to post the wattage because people might have rooms of different sizes and different speakers
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Old 03-29-2008, 05:40 PM   #3
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So an anechoic chamber changes the actual capabilities of speakers? Amazing! Maybe if I put a Honda Civic in an anechoic chamber it will have 1000 horsepower. I MUST have one of these rooms of magic!
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Old 03-29-2008, 05:45 PM   #4
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So an anechoic chamber changes the actual capabilities of speakers? Amazing! Maybe if I put a Honda Civic in an anechoic chamber it will have 1000 horsepower. I MUST have one of these rooms of magic!
Yah, sign me up too!

What a load of handwaving bullshit from Bose. Hardly a surprise, though...
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Old 03-29-2008, 05:50 PM   #5
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someone should ask why they use paper
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:40 PM   #6
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Pathetic... absolutely pathetic attempt at a cop-out!!! Every other manufacturer advertises their frequency responses. They think they are exempt because of their theory that only in a room that has no sound reflective qualities will you get the actual frequencies measured???

BULLSHIT!

Hell, even the world governments are better at "SPIN" than these jokers... and that's not saying much! I don't care who the hell they think they are. If all speakers are measured in the same type of environment, which they obviously are for industry standards, then those measurements can stand up against one another to show the comparative aspects to the quality of the competing brands/models!!!!!!!!!

Bose... what a bunch of spineless twats!

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Old 03-29-2008, 06:44 PM   #7
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I pity those who buy into their overpriced, inferior products and technology. Boy the higher ups at Bose and Monster Cable have something in common.

No offense to anyone here of course...
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:32 PM   #8
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I pity those who buy into their overpriced, inferior products and technology. Boy the higher ups at Bose and Monster Cable have something in common.

No offense to anyone here of course...
I don't think you can compare Monster Cable to Bose. Monster cables might be very expensive but they are still very high quality cables. The same can't be said about Bose.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:34 PM   #9
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I don't think you can compare Monster Cable to Bose. Monster cables might be very expensive but they are still very high quality cables. The same can't be said about Bose.
Not quality but their PR spin.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:35 PM   #10
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ok this post ends the monster discussion if you would like to compare the two please start another thread lol other wise this is going to be a repeat of the other threads
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:09 PM   #11
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Seriously though if Bose even only spent 25% of their marketting budget on actual R&D and production their speakers would be 10X better than they are now.
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:28 PM   #12
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That article actually means...we can not publish frequency responses because this will lower our profits.
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:52 PM   #13
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Maybe if I put a Honda Civic in an anechoic chamber it will have 1000 horsepower.
only if you use monster cable. it will have better black levels too!

Better sound through marketing
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:38 PM   #14
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only if you use monster cable. it will have better black levels too!

Better sound through marketing
i thought i said no monster lol owell it's inevitable
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:20 PM   #15
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amazing spin!

Anechoic chambers are the ideal place to test a speakers frequency responce, no unwanted reflections. the point of tests in an anechoic chamber is that it gives as much data about the speaker as possible, non about the room!
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:47 PM   #16
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only if you use monster cable. it will have better black levels too!

Better sound through marketing
Monster actually is better.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cabl...t-2-268788.php
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:59 PM   #17
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BULLSHIT!
as the late Paul Klipsch liked to say.

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Old 03-30-2008, 12:19 AM   #18
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btw that test shows that monoprice is great at 6feet which is what we all said and the monster cable cost a whole lot more. also i have a cable the bjc series-1 that is about 1/8th the price of monster and will pass 1080p 60hz well within 1.3a 1 testing at 125feet i would like to see the 8 times more expensive monster cable do that . but yes that test did in fact show that the mono price cables were just as good at 6 feet and under. i have seen that test run right infront of me at a broadcast studio with digital cables and analog ( not hdmi ) and they had a perfect point to point spectrum and there was not a monster cable in sight.

so now if we can get back to the bose roasting that would be great
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:33 AM   #19
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*blink* but how often do you anticipate watching 1440p 12bit, 120Hz signals over a HDMI 1.2 or 1.3?
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Old 03-30-2008, 06:18 AM   #20
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Bose is crap for the money you spend, so is Monster.
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