Exposure to UV,... unhealthy?

[bhampton]

I wonder about my growing vudu library.

See,... my shelf space is overflowing and I like to reduce clutter.

But, I have mixed feelings about Ultraviolet in general.

On the one hand... no need to store movies, no chance of movies getting stolen, no more scratched or broken discs, easy to take movies with me when I go places, I can watch on every display device - phone, ipad, ps3, my upstairs TV via Roku, my projector via my BDP.

On the other hand,.. quality isn't quite like the best physical media. For example, I was watching something on HDX and the camera paned and the quality seems to just go right out the window... takes me sort of out of the experience. Then there's the thought that if I ever decide not to pay for internet access,... I'll need to DL it all... I guess that's not so bad. Anyways,.. I've never considered not having internet access.

Just seems like a lot of pros and cons... Basically, I'm concerned by how fast I'm beginning to like UV. It's really growing on me.

(Forgive me for thinking aloud a bit.)

-Brian

[Evil]

Sounds like you are pondering a decision that I think everyone who starts a UV collection has to face sooner or later: I have these movies in my UV collection, should I sell/trade/toss my physical discs to make room on the shelf?

There are many factors to consider but I think ultimately it boils down to how likely you feel that UV will be around in the long-term. I don't think anyone would toss their discs if they knew that UV wouldn't be around next year. At the same time, UV could be the future way of owning movies and make physical discs obsolete. There's no way to know.

[Joos519]

I too feel the same as you, but I've decided to buy only the blu ray movies I really love or 3d blu rays that are good (since most are not on vudu). I have about 30 vudu movies, most of them are blind buys. At the $2-$5 price for a vudu copy, it's worth it. This method may not eliminate the clutter, but it does minimize the growth.

Vudu is great option, but for now, it won't eliminate my blu ray collection, it'll just add to the library in a different format. If you think about it though, when was the last time your brought a CD? After mp3s happened and online stores for music came along, cd's became the alternative method of buying music (when it used to be the primary method). So who's to say this won't happen to blu rays. Technology may provide a way to produce true HD quality streaming in the future.

[Jr7936]

haha to answer your question, the last time I bought a cd was when the daft punk came out but I buy cd's a lot and I still prefer the higher quality audio to mp3's

in regards to vudu, I have never bought a movie, since i can't stand digital copies, granted I am going to have iron man 3, gi-joe 2 and i have django unchained on there from the walmart preorder but if I didn't preorder I never would have bought them on it's own

for me it's blu ray, then dvd if i can't rent the blu ray, then I guess streaming is somewhere around there.

[acrylick]

Personally it depends on the movie for me. If its a movie I'm semi-interested in, I'll purchase the UV copy to see if I like it. If the movie sucks, well I'll have a digital format in case anyone wants to watch it. But if its a movie I end up buying on UV and end up liking it, I'll wait a few months till its cheaper for the physical disc.

There are exceptions to this rule for me though: digibooks, steelbooks, or movies I watched in theaters that I know I love or going to love. All of these are day 1 physical disc purchases!

[bhampton]

I'm not ready to throw out anything Blu.

But,... DVDs ... old worn flipper DVDs that I can have in HDX for $2.50 that are not available on Blu Ray (in my region),... I'm ready to toss those in a BIN to use for the next Upgrade and Save.

[midgat0]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I'm not ready to throw out anything Blu.

But,... DVDs ... old worn flipper DVDs that I can have in HDX for $2.50 that are not available on Blu Ray (in my region),... I'm ready to toss those in a BIN to use for the next Upgrade and Save.

The only thing that would make me keep the discs in this instance is if there are any bonus features since that's what vudu lacks.

[CanadianEH]

Originally Posted by acrylick

Personally it depends on the movie for me. If its a movie I'm semi-interested in, I'll purchase the UV copy to see if I like it. If the movie sucks, well I'll have a digital format in case anyone wants to watch it. But if its a movie I end up buying on UV and end up liking it, I'll wait a few months till its cheaper for the physical disc.

There are exceptions to this rule for me though: digibooks, steelbooks, or movies I watched in theaters that I know I love or going to love. All of these are day 1 physical disc purchases!

Almost exactly what I think. Except for the digibooks. Although it did take me a while to come around to steelbooks, so maybe I'll warm up to them.

Anyway, back to the OP. I have been picking up UV codes off the Buy/Sell/Trade forum for about a month. I was very hesitant at first, but now it's almost like an addiction. There are no video stores around here anymore, so I just pay the same as I would to rent a movie, but end up owning the rights so I can watch it as many times as I like and share it with the other members on my account. Also, the other members can add to our account, so I don't end up buying all the movies that come out. Another benefit is that I don't have to lend the movie to one buddy. He lives a couple hours away, so I usually only see him once a month, so sometimes he has my movies for 6 months. Now I just share the account with him. Finally, I am heading to a camp in the middle of nowhere soon to work. I wanted to build up my collection so I don't go crazy living in a remote area for weeks at a time.

So to summarize, I shared your hesitation, but now am fully on board with UV. I still buy physical copies of the ones I really want, but if I just want to see if I like a movie I will grab a UV copy.

[bsweetness]

Originally Posted by CanadianEH

Almost exactly what I think. Except for the digibooks. Although it did take me a while to come around to steelbooks, so maybe I'll warm up to them.

Anyway, back to the OP. I have been picking up UV codes off the Buy/Sell/Trade forum for about a month. I was very hesitant at first, but now it's almost like an addiction. There are no video stores around here anymore, so I just pay the same as I would to rent a movie, but end up owning the rights so I can watch it as many times as I like and share it with the other members on my account. Also, the other members can add to our account, so I don't end up buying all the movies that come out. Another benefit is that I don't have to lend the movie to one buddy. He lives a couple hours away, so I usually only see him once a month, so sometimes he has my movies for 6 months. Now I just share the account with him. Finally, I am heading to a camp in the middle of nowhere soon to work. I wanted to build up my collection so I don't go crazy living in a remote area for weeks at a time.

So to summarize, I shared your hesitation, but now am fully on board with UV. I still buy physical copies of the ones I really want, but if I just want to see if I like a movie I will grab a UV copy.

That's one of my favorite things about movies that include UV copies. If there's a movie I'm interested in, but I'm unsure about a blind buy, I can pick up a cheap UV copy for about the price of a rental. If I like it, I own a copy that's more than decent enough to hold me over until the Blu-ray gets a price drop or goes on sale. If I don't like it, I'm out a very small amount of money, and it's there if someone ever wants to watch it.

[Britnasty]

I only continue to buy UV copies off the trading forum because as of right now, I have 5 people on my UV account. My grandparents, my parents, my cousin at college, my best friend and my aunt/uncle. If I don't intend to buy a certain movie on Bluray but want to see it, I'll get it from the forum and add it to my VUDU/UV account.

My grandpa also uses my Netflix, so every month he will send me a check for $10, as does my aunt/uncle. I have close to 150 movies in my UV account and add monthly, they always ask me if I can get a certain title or will, ill go to the forum and buy it. So basically they're paying for what they want to see and I own it


I do, myself, actually quite like the idea of UV more than Bluray. It's portable, everything is at the click of a button and there are no load times.

Until the quality matches, ill continue to pick up my favorites on Bluray and go to the trading forum and throw $2-3 down and get the HDX UV version of stuff I don't want to waste $20 on.

[Clark Kent]

It's the future of home video, people should get used to it.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

It's the future of home video, people should get used to it.

Vudu is not the future of home video.

Streaming or "owning" in the cloud also isn't the future of home video.

I see you predicting the demise of physical media on different forums, Chris, but the idea that one will be replaced with the other could not be any more naive. And you are free to bookmark this post so that you could come back in 2-3 years to quote me.

The future of the home video market will be one of multiple options - meaning a fractured market, very similar to the one we have at this point.
This idea that somehow people will stop wanting to own physical products, and in this case their favorite films/shows, is as naive as the idea that electronic mail would replace physical mail. Which is something that was widely speculated some years ago.

Thanks.



Pro-B

[787]

Originally Posted by clark kent

it's the future of home video, people should get used to it.

+1

[Hayabusa85]

UV's will never replace my Ray's

[acrylick]

Originally Posted by Hayabusa85

UV's will never replace my Ray's

wait for it....waittt for itttt....legendaryyyyyy

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Vudu is not the future of home video.

Streaming or "owning" in the cloud also isn't the future of home video.

It's not the answer at the moment but streaming entertainment is the future for Hollywood's products, at least in developed markets. I am not trying to promote any agenda, but trying to fairly predict where the market is headed in coming years. It may not happen next year or the year after that, but shrinking retail space will put heavy pressure on the packaged media industries in the coming years.

This is not a comment maligning the Blu-ray format, it will continue to be the delivery vehicle going forward for the best possible presentation in home video. The mass market has continually chosen convenience over quality when they've made these decisions in the past and I don't expect that to change.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

It's the future of home video, people should get used to it.

Long live bluray and 4k bluray, oh and 8k bluray. The day I give that up to stream HD on my phone or tablet (HDX or not) is the day I give up my hobby. Simple as that. I can't get engrossed in a 4 inch screen. I hope all you streaming fanboys (and turncoats) realise that is our future. Squinting at 4 inch screens.

[Jumpman]

Concerning the OP, I share you exact same thoughts, though my addiction has become iTunes not UV.

Either way, I understand the feeling of downsizing with one format but upsizing greatly in another...but with digital copies, it doesn't feel like it.

[bsweetness]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Long live bluray and 4k bluray, oh and 8k bluray. The day I give that up to stream HD on my phone or tablet (HDX or not) is the day I give up my hobby. Simple as that. I can't get engrossed in a 4 inch screen. I hope all you streaming fanboys (and turncoats) realise that is our future. Squinting at 4 inch screens.

You do realize that you can also stream these things to any TV as well, right?

And I don't think much of anyone here is looking to give up Blu-ray for streaming media alone. It's a compliment to physical media that's great to have in certain circumstances.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bsweetness

You do realize that you can also stream these things to any TV as well, right?

And I don't think much of anyone here is looking to give up Blu-ray for streaming media alone. It's a compliment to physical media that's great to have in certain circumstances.

All this stuff is intended for phones and tablets. Youngsters don't watch TV anymore. That's why it is vital we don't give in to streaming. Like I said, movies on a 4 inch phone or worse still smartwatch. If phones end up phasing out tablets like some ceo's have predicted, (docking stations apparently will take over) that leaves the younger generation with their crappy 4 inch phones. Two generations from now, no TVs and the delight of squintavision when us older people want to watch a movie.