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Old 06-07-2013, 09:35 AM   #1
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I haven't seen any threads here about GMD.

What does everyone think of the film on HD? for me it's solid picture with no sign of grain and nice coloring with great sound i say. I sold my old 2002 DVD last year at Hastings to get this BD.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:04 AM   #2
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I haven't seen any threads here about GMD.

What does everyone think of the film on HD? for me it's solid picture with no sign of grain and nice coloring with great sound i say. I sold my old 2002 DVD last year at Hastings to get this BD.
Worth the upgrade, but I've never seen the DVD. It's great PQ so pick it up.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:12 PM   #3
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I haven't seen any threads here about GMD.

What does everyone think of the film on HD? for me it's solid picture with no sign of grain and nice coloring with great sound i say. I sold my old 2002 DVD last year at Hastings to get this BD.
The reason why there is no thread for this is because last year for the most part, we were just using a megathread for all the films that came out for the majority of the year. Most films didn't get their own thread unless someone decided to make one, or it was a large film, though the majority of the discussion was still on the main 2012 thread. The thread is here if your looking for any other movies: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=192205
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:18 PM   #4
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The reason why there is no thread for this is because last year for the most part, we were just using a megathread for all the films that came out for the majority of the year. Most films didn't get their own thread unless someone decided to make one, or it was a large film, though the majority of the discussion was still on the main 2012 thread. The thread is here if your looking for any other movies: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=192205
This movie definitely had a thread at one pont, I'm not sure if it got wiped when the site had a database crash last year, but there was one.
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Worth the upgrade, but I've never seen the DVD. It's great PQ so pick it up.
Definitely an improvement on the 2002 DVD and worth the upgrade i guaranteed with nice picture and sound too, there is not a sight of grain to be seen.
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On the Disney+ version, which opening title ended up being used:

“The Adventures of the Great Mouse Detective” or “The Great Mouse Detective”?
The latter.
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Old 12-06-2019, 02:10 AM   #7
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Definitely an improvement on the 2002 DVD and worth the upgrade i guaranteed with nice picture and sound too, there is not a sight of grain to be seen.
But there should be signs of grain. It is (or at least was) a film.
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Old 12-06-2019, 02:58 AM   #8
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On the Disney+ version, which opening title ended up being used:

“The Adventures of the Great Mouse Detective” or “The Great Mouse Detective”?
You're in San Antonio, so am I. I have Disney +. Do you not have the tech to sign up and check for yourself? Because you're bumping all these Disney animation threads (I think eight or nine so far) to ask a question about logos and bonus features that would be much faster for you to answer for yourself than waiting on us to do it for you. If you get the app yourself, will save you a whole lot of time.

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Old 12-06-2019, 03:13 AM   #9
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This'll sound out of character for me, but maybe he either can't afford a subscription yet, or wants to learn more about the service before subscribing.

"Why doesn't he get a free trial?" He'd get charged at the end, unless he learns how to cancel his subscription before that.
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:25 AM   #10
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That's maniac's MO -- digital copies, logos, menus, credits, errored scenes (or stuff like TS2 end credit edits), minituae related to extras, dozens of posts about Dumbo censoring, etc.


He'll put out a wave of similar posts in 10-20 threads at once, often copy/paste or with a couple words different. Once he suckers someone into answered something he could answer himself easier, then each subsequent question will get more bizarre.

Well over half his questions are about things nobody can possibly answer --
extras for releases 6-9 months in the future, which version of the film will be on the digital when they release something 2 years from now, will they fix a deleted or errored scene when it's released next year, will they restore the original Logo 3 years from now.
Will the next release of Fantasia by remastered, will they fix Deems narration, will the digital copy of Hercules be different than the streamed version. after about the 40th repetition of Clouds and Savanna I put him in the ignore folder, but the quoted posts can't be blocked.

I can't prove it but i suspect he later goes back and deletes a lot of his posts so it won't be as easy to see the pattern. His history only lists 290 posts, but he's made more posts that that just about Lion King Clouds, Lion King Savannah sound, Beauty and the Beast Library scenes, and Mermaid glitches.
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:27 AM   #11
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On the US BD, are the end credits windowboxed, ala the UK BD?
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:17 AM   #12
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For what it's worth, my wife is big into Sherlock Holmes -- she's read all of Doyle, she's torn between Jeremy Brett or Cumberbatch as her favorite Holmes, and has a soft spot for Spielberg/Levinson's Young Sherlock.

I was afraid to show her The Great Mouse Detective, because the budget for the film was sliced in half after Cauldron and it just feels cheap, and there are some other issues that wouldn't sound popular to post here, so let's leave it at that.

Anyway, we're at the lake in a small cabin, taking two weeks off...brought a bunch of movies she hadn't seen, figured Mouse Detective would be a good, short, Saturday morning breakfast kinda thing...and she loved it.

Now she wants a dog and insists it be named, "Toby".
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:42 AM   #13
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I was afraid to show her The Great Mouse Detective, because the budget for the film was sliced in half after Cauldron and it just feels cheap, and there are some other issues that wouldn't sound popular to post here, so let's leave it at that.
I think that, for all of it's flaws, there's still quite a bit to like about this film. Vincent Price as Ratigan is in my opinion one of the most underrated Disney villain performances, and that rotoscoped CG shot in the clocktower holds up so much better than early CAPS CG models like the Sydney Opera House in Rescuers Down Under.
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That's maniac's MO -- digital copies, logos, menus, credits, errored scenes (or stuff like TS2 end credit edits), minituae related to extras, dozens of posts about Dumbo censoring, etc.


He'll put out a wave of similar posts in 10-20 threads at once, often copy/paste or with a couple words different. Once he suckers someone into answered something he could answer himself easier, then each subsequent question will get more bizarre.

Well over half his questions are about things nobody can possibly answer --
extras for releases 6-9 months in the future, which version of the film will be on the digital when they release something 2 years from now, will they fix a deleted or errored scene when it's released next year, will they restore the original Logo 3 years from now.
Will the next release of Fantasia by remastered, will they fix Deems narration, will the digital copy of Hercules be different than the streamed version. after about the 40th repetition of Clouds and Savanna I put him in the ignore folder, but the quoted posts can't be blocked.

I can't prove it but i suspect he later goes back and deletes a lot of his posts so it won't be as easy to see the pattern. His history only lists 290 posts, but he's made more posts that that just about Lion King Clouds, Lion King Savannah sound, Beauty and the Beast Library scenes, and Mermaid glitches.
Yes he deletes them. Sometimes when no one answers his questions, he deletes them and repost them again.
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Old 12-06-2019, 09:40 PM   #15
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For what it's worth, my wife is big into Sherlock Holmes -- she's read all of Doyle, she's torn between Jeremy Brett or Cumberbatch as her favorite Holmes, and has a soft spot for Spielberg/Levinson's Young Sherlock.

I was afraid to show her The Great Mouse Detective, because the budget for the film was sliced in half after Cauldron and it just feels cheap, and there are some other issues that wouldn't sound popular to post here, so let's leave it at that.

Anyway, we're at the lake in a small cabin, taking two weeks off...brought a bunch of movies she hadn't seen, figured Mouse Detective would be a good, short, Saturday morning breakfast kinda thing...and she loved it.

Now she wants a dog and insists it be named, "Toby".
I really love the film as well but it's hard to get past the visuals. This really is one of Disney's cheapest looking films, second only to Oliver & Company which I think is Disney's worst looking film overall. I really wonder how Basil (I refuse to call it anything else) would have looked with that extra year (it was originally meant to be released in 1987) and without the budget slashed in half.
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I really love the film as well but it's hard to get past the visuals. This really is one of Disney's cheapest looking films, second only to Oliver & Company which I think is Disney's worst looking film overall. I really wonder how Basil (I refuse to call it anything else) would have looked with that extra year (it was originally meant to be released in 1987) and without the budget slashed in half.
JeanGrey speaking my language. Oliver and Co. doesn't just look cheap, it also looks ugly. I cannot express to you guys how much of a "holy crap" moment the opening of The Rescuers Down Under was, at least for those of us who were animation fans growing up in the 80's after Mouse Detective and Oliver and Co. (and yes, in some respects, The Little Mermaid). Then here comes this sequel to the Rescuers everyone had written off from the trailers. Saw it opening night, nobody in the theater. Jaw on the floor.
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There are other Disneys I'd rank above it (Fantasia, Sleeping Beauty, Little Mermaid, Aladdin, etc.), but I have a great big soft spot for The Great Mouse Detective. It was one of my favorites as a kid, so there's a lot of nostalgia there, and it genuinely is a fun little adventure.

Plus, it's got Vincent Price.
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Old 12-07-2019, 09:48 PM   #18
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JeanGrey speaking my language. Oliver and Co. doesn't just look cheap, it also looks ugly. I cannot express to you guys how much of a "holy crap" moment the opening of The Rescuers Down Under was, at least for those of us who were animation fans growing up in the 80's after Mouse Detective and Oliver and Co. (and yes, in some respects, The Little Mermaid). Then here comes this sequel to the Rescuers everyone had written off from the trailers. Saw it opening night, nobody in the theater. Jaw on the floor.
I'm not a huge fan of The Rescuers Down Under, because I felt it strayed too far from the more mysterious tone of the original film which had a superior plotline, characters, and music imo. However, there's no doubt that the visuals in The Rescuers Down Under are breathtaking and worlds apart from the original film, even if that film was an improvement compared to the animation in Robin Hood and The Aristocats. I can only imagine what it must have been like to see Down Under on the big screen. It's a shame that Disney hasn't bothered to use the CAPS files for the restoration and sticks with the film print.
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This really is one of Disney's cheapest looking films, second only to Oliver & Company which I think is Disney's worst looking film overall.
In my opinion, both of them look less cheap than Robin Hood. I can enjoy that film but they went way overboard on animation recycling. GMD and O&Co. are a little cheap looking but at least the animation is mostly original.
As for Oliver, I'd have to see a better print to really judge as the Blu-ray release used some aggressive DVNR.
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I'm not a huge fan of The Rescuers Down Under, because I felt it strayed too far from the more mysterious tone of the original film which had a superior plotline, characters, and music imo. However, there's no doubt that the visuals in The Rescuers Down Under are breathtaking and worlds apart from the original film, even if that film was an improvement compared to the animation in Robin Hood and The Aristocats. I can only imagine what it must have been like to see Down Under on the big screen. It's a shame that Disney hasn't bothered to use the CAPS files for the restoration and sticks with the film print.
Agreed, except for the music. Bruce Broughton's score is terrific -- I'll add one more caveat...the character animation is nowhere near as strong as the '77 film. Not bad or even mediocre, but you give Ollie Johnston a Bob Newhart vocal track, look out. Magic's coming.
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