Panamax M5300-pm Power Conditioner Questions... - Blu-ray Forum

Pelican170 · 04-04-2008, 05:29 PM

Hey people,

I am interested in buying this soon. Does anyone out there have anything bad to say about it? also, I have heard rumors that there is trouble with this passing the HD signal from Coax. Has anyone had problems with this? Also, what is the correct way to hook it up for video? Wall to Conditioner to Digital Cable Box?

Krafticus · 04-04-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Hey people,

I am interested in buying this soon. Does anyone out there have anything bad to say about it? also, I have heard rumors that there is trouble with this passing the HD signal from Coax. Has anyone had problems with this? Also, what is the correct way to hook it up for video? Wall to Conditioner to Digital Cable Box?

I have an older Panamax, model in my sig. I have had not one single issue with this, as it has been terrific. I would suggest that you hook everything from the source into the box, so, Wall to Conditioner, and out to Cable Box. When I had the cable box, and this hook up, I had no issues.

Honestly though, I have never run my system without everything plugged into the conditioner, so, I cannot compare before and after.

Hope that helps

Mark

Pelican170 · 04-04-2008, 05:46 PM

Does help. So there would be no issue with running HD through this? that is my main concern.

Krafticus · 04-04-2008, 06:01 PM

If you run the cable from the wall to the condtioner, and then to the cable box, it shouldn't be an issue. I assume your cable box is connected to the TV via HDMI or Component. The box does the HD. When I had my cables plugged in, I had no issues.

I have satellite now, and the installer bypassed the conditioner, and I have been too lazy to pull the unit out and rewire.

Pelican170 · 04-04-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Krafticus

If you run the cable from the wall to the condtioner, and then to the cable box, it shouldn't be an issue. I assume your cable box is connected to the TV via HDMI or Component. The box does the HD. When I had my cables plugged in, I had no issues.

I have satellite now, and the installer bypassed the conditioner, and I have been too lazy to pull the unit out and rewire.

Yes, currently my set up is running Components from Digi Box to receiver, then to TV. I figured that since the setup would go from wall to conditioner, then to digi box, that this would be irrelevant. Thanks for the info once again.

ShawnE94SL · 04-04-2008, 06:48 PM

I actually have this model. It's a smart purchase. I also don't run the Coax through the unit (I'm not sure why). Maybe I should start.

Pelican170 · 04-04-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnE94SL

I actually have this model. It's a smart purchase. I also don't run the Coax through the unit (I'm not sure why). Maybe I should start.

Glad to hear I made the right move, I actually just ordered this. Got it on Buy.com for $310.00 with free shipping. Not too bad. Anyways, from what I have read, ive been told its best to run power and Coax through it. Just figured id pass the info your way...

ShawnE94SL · 04-04-2008, 07:07 PM

$310......that's a great price! I wish I would have known that a couple of months ago. I bought mine at Tweeter and paid full price

It was kind of a "why not" buy.

Pelican170 · 04-04-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnE94SL

$310......that's a great price! I wish I would have known that a couple of months ago. I bought mine at Tweeter and paid full price

It was kind of a "why not" buy.

Yea I hear ya. Ive done that too many times in the past to find out a few weeks later that there was a better price somewhere, so I try to search as best as I can now. FYI it was actually $320.00 but I found a $10 off coupon... If you really even care, hahahah sorry.

ManUtd · 04-04-2008, 09:24 PM

I have the discontinued EX model and I run everything (including coax) thru it without any issues so far.

Greekboy · 04-05-2008, 04:32 AM

I have the same model and also got it from buy.com. I have not seen a single issue running any cable through the machine. I have not seen any improvements to audio or video as some may state but in the end I feel a lot safer having that baby protect my goodies.

WickyWoo · 04-05-2008, 05:04 AM

Be aware if you buy it from Buy.com, you do not have the connected equipment warranty available. Panamax has a very short list of authorized internet dealers

ascian · 04-05-2008, 05:46 AM

With our local Cox connection, I have had several instances of weak signal after going through Panamax and Monster Power Centers. if you hook it up and have no issues than good for you, but it got to the point that during home theater installations, I just bypassed the coaxial connection to the power center.

Blu_Ray_Fan · 04-05-2008, 06:10 AM

4 years ago when I first had my HD DishNetwork box installed the installer told me to never run the coax through ANY power conitioner. I forgot WHY he said that, but I never have. I guess I don't know what is negetive or positive of doing it either way??? I myself am curious.

syncguy · 04-09-2008, 12:24 PM

If your cable signal is marginal and if run through a power conditioner, the signal could get attenuated to a level that you could get picture quality issues. This depends on the specs of your cable provider. If the cable provider recommends not to run through a conditioner it is better not to do that. In the other hand running the cable through a conditioner would increase protection and this is a good thing for your total system. So if the picture is in good quality you may choose to run it through a conditioner. Perhaps the best is to test it yourself with and without a conditioner. The outcome could be different in different locations for the same provider.

wicked45 · 10-15-2015, 08:44 PM

I just picked up a panamax 5300m and need to know which outlets on the panamax to plug my devices into. I have 2 emotiva amps, denon avr, blu ray player, cable box, apple tv and amazon fire tv.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

jautor · 10-18-2015, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wicked45

I just picked up a panamax 5300m and need to know which outlets on the panamax to plug my devices into. I have 2 emotiva amps, denon avr, blu ray player, cable box, apple tv and amazon fire tv.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Amps go to the "high current" delayed switched outlets.

Does your Denon AVR have a trigger output? Are you using that now to power on the Emotiva amps?

Given your device list, most of those (cable box, Fire, ATV) should be left on all the time so you don't have to wait for them to boot up. If you've got a trigger, put all of those device in the "always on" outlets, along with the AVR. The Blu-ray player can go in the switched outlet.

Jeff

wicked45 · 10-19-2015, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jautor

Amps go to the "high current" delayed switched outlets.

Does your Denon AVR have a trigger output? Are you using that now to power on the Emotiva amps?

Given your device list, most of those (cable box, Fire, ATV) should be left on all the time so you don't have to wait for them to boot up. If you've got a trigger, put all of those device in the "always on" outlets, along with the AVR. The Blu-ray player can go in the switched outlet.

Jeff

My denon does have a trigger output. I currently have 2 trigger output going into both of my amps. When i power on the denon, it powers on the amps. Should i be connect the trigger to the panamax instead?

jautor · 10-19-2015, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wicked45

My denon does have a trigger output. I currently have 2 trigger output going into both of my amps. When i power on the denon, it powers on the amps. Should i be connect the trigger to the panamax instead?

Doesn't matter as long as you're happy with the sequencing as-is. Most of your non-amp devices should be "always on" anyway, so you're probably better off using the AVR trigger for the amps, and leaving the Panamax "on" so you have the use of all the switched outlets (which will be always be left on, but does give you an easy hard reboot switch!).

substance · 10-20-2015, 02:40 PM

It has 5 banks, each bank has its own filtering circuitry.

Each bank have two electrical outlets in parallel.

Bank 1-4 have inductors and capacitors for a notch filter whereas bank 5 is only capacitors. Bank 5 should be used for current hungry power amps, av receivers, powered subwoofers.

Since each bank is separately fiktered, noise contamination between them is much less but between the two plugs on the same bank, noise contamination is high.

Anything that has a switching power supply, keep it away from power amps. You can plug electronics with good power sections into same banks.

04-04-2008, 05:29 PM	#1
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	Panamax M5300-pm Power Conditioner Questions... Hey people, I am interested in buying this soon. Does anyone out there have anything bad to say about it? also, I have heard rumors that there is trouble with this passing the HD signal from Coax. Has anyone had problems with this? Also, what is the correct way to hook it up for video? Wall to Conditioner to Digital Cable Box?

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Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	Does help. So there would be no issue with running HD through this? that is my main concern.

04-04-2008, 06:01 PM	#4
Krafticus Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Ellicott City, MD Blu-ray collection:35	If you run the cable from the wall to the condtioner, and then to the cable box, it shouldn't be an issue. I assume your cable box is connected to the TV via HDMI or Component. The box does the HD. When I had my cables plugged in, I had no issues. I have satellite now, and the installer bypassed the conditioner, and I have been too lazy to pull the unit out and rewire.

04-04-2008, 06:48 PM	#6
ShawnE94SL Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sellersville, PA Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:11	I actually have this model. It's a smart purchase. I also don't run the Coax through the unit (I'm not sure why). Maybe I should start.

04-04-2008, 07:07 PM	#8
ShawnE94SL Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sellersville, PA Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:11	$310......that's a great price! I wish I would have known that a couple of months ago. I bought mine at Tweeter and paid full price It was kind of a "why not" buy.

04-04-2008, 09:24 PM	#10
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	I have the discontinued EX model and I run everything (including coax) thru it without any issues so far.

04-05-2008, 04:32 AM	#11
Greekboy Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:MA	I have the same model and also got it from buy.com. I have not seen a single issue running any cable through the machine. I have not seen any improvements to audio or video as some may state but in the end I feel a lot safer having that baby protect my goodies.

04-05-2008, 05:04 AM	#12
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	Be aware if you buy it from Buy.com, you do not have the connected equipment warranty available. Panamax has a very short list of authorized internet dealers

04-05-2008, 05:46 AM	#13
ascian Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Arkansas Blu-ray collection:1	With our local Cox connection, I have had several instances of weak signal after going through Panamax and Monster Power Centers. if you hook it up and have no issues than good for you, but it got to the point that during home theater installations, I just bypassed the coaxial connection to the power center.

04-05-2008, 06:10 AM	#14
Blu_Ray_Fan Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:104 Blu-ray reviews:1	4 years ago when I first had my HD DishNetwork box installed the installer told me to never run the coax through ANY power conitioner. I forgot WHY he said that, but I never have. I guess I don't know what is negetive or positive of doing it either way??? I myself am curious.

04-09-2008, 12:24 PM	#15
syncguy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008	If your cable signal is marginal and if run through a power conditioner, the signal could get attenuated to a level that you could get picture quality issues. This depends on the specs of your cable provider. If the cable provider recommends not to run through a conditioner it is better not to do that. In the other hand running the cable through a conditioner would increase protection and this is a good thing for your total system. So if the picture is in good quality you may choose to run it through a conditioner. Perhaps the best is to test it yourself with and without a conditioner. The outcome could be different in different locations for the same provider.

10-15-2015, 08:44 PM	#16
wicked45 Member Member since:Sep 2010 Location:OC- Fountain Valley	I just picked up a panamax 5300m and need to know which outlets on the panamax to plug my devices into. I have 2 emotiva amps, denon avr, blu ray player, cable box, apple tv and amazon fire tv. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

10-20-2015, 02:40 PM	#20
substance Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Laguna Niguel, CA Home Theater Gallery:7 4K collection:338 Blu-ray collection:2232 DVD collection:19 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	It has 5 banks, each bank has its own filtering circuitry. Each bank have two electrical outlets in parallel. Bank 1-4 have inductors and capacitors for a notch filter whereas bank 5 is only capacitors. Bank 5 should be used for current hungry power amps, av receivers, powered subwoofers. Since each bank is separately fiktered, noise contamination between them is much less but between the two plugs on the same bank, noise contamination is high. Anything that has a switching power supply, keep it away from power amps. You can plug electronics with good power sections into same banks.

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