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Old 04-04-2008, 05:43 PM   #1
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Which do u feel is superior in this technology?

Personally I think sony's motionflow is way better. After working in Electronics for a while and comparing back and forth it seems as if samsung runs into some glitches that i don't notice on sony models. Occassionally, on samsung models, parts of objects will disappear. Example, someone will turn and all of the sudden half of their face will vanish for a split second. This doesn't seem to happen as often when playing a blu-ray or hd dvd on the samsung models but it is really noticeable, to me, on HD coax signals.

One thing i do like about the samsungs tho, is that the motionplus is much more noticeable on a coax connection(in the store, Sears, we run everything through coax. HD and SD) where it barely seems to be there if all on the sony motionflow. This possibley could affect people on an antenna? What's ur thoughts? I'm bored at work so help me pass the time.

Also, what other companies offer this feature? I've heard of sharp offering this but i have yet to see a model.
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:59 PM   #2
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:32 PM   #3
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120hz is 120hz, it is a fixed refresh rate. You may be referring to the various enhancement features for how the tv converts 24pfs to 120hz. Sony has motion enhancer and cinemotion, not sure what Samsung calls their conversion enhancements. I am sure that with all such enhancements turned off that with the same material and similarly calibrated pictures 120hz will look very similar on either.
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Right now...the NFL says Samsung! Nuff Said!
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:08 PM   #5
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:13 PM   #6
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120hz is 120hz, it is a fixed refresh rate. You may be referring to the various enhancement features for how the tv converts 24pfs to 120hz. Sony has motion enhancer and cinemotion, not sure what Samsung calls their conversion enhancements. I am sure that with all such enhancements turned off that with the same material and similarly calibrated pictures 120hz will look very similar on either.
I actually agree with you! I actually bought the 52" Samsung 71 series and love the tv. I could have easily bought the Sony XBR4 or the other Sony model (can't think of the number) but at the time were still $800 -$1000 more. I can honestly say that I have no regrets on my selection!
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:24 PM   #7
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Which do u feel is superior in this technology?

Personally I think sony's motionflow is way better. After working in Electronics for a while and comparing back and forth it seems as if samsung runs into some glitches that i don't notice on sony models. Occassionally, on samsung models, parts of objects will disappear. Example, someone will turn and all of the sudden half of their face will vanish for a split second. This doesn't seem to happen as often when playing a blu-ray or hd dvd on the samsung models but it is really noticeable, to me, on HD coax signals.

One thing i do like about the samsungs tho, is that the motionplus is much more noticeable on a coax connection(in the store, Sears, we run everything through coax. HD and SD) where it barely seems to be there if all on the sony motionflow. This possibley could affect people on an antenna? What's ur thoughts? I'm bored at work so help me pass the time.

Also, what other companies offer this feature? I've heard of sharp offering this but i have yet to see a model.
I would consider the Samsung and Sony models a tie because it looks the same according to my eye. I can't jump to conclusions until I watch movies and sports on both tvs. I have a 32" Sharp Aquos 1080p and loving it! I wouldn't trade it until its time to update.
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:11 AM   #8
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I have to go with the Samsung. I just got the new Samsung 46" 650 LCD, and must say, I am really blown away by it. 120Hz is adjustable, meaning, it can be turned off, or on Hi, med, or low. I have it on medium, which still has that ultra smooth look, but still has a little film look.
Also, the black levels on the new Samsungs now rival plasma. Beside, Sonys have those ugly bezels...
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I have the top of the line 40in xbr5 by Sony. I have friends, and my pops with Samsung Lcd's, and man, I wish I got the samsung. The xbr5 is the best Sony picture Ive seen, besides oled, but it's no samsung in the same price range.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:20 AM   #10
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with motionenhancement on high with the 71 series samsung it produces this weird effect in backgrounds where it looks like someone is spraying a high pressure hose against the back of the screen.

it's most evident on films with grain, take a look for yourself at Best Buy.

It's rather destracting. Add in the Max Hedrom like effects on heads and I have to give the Sony the advantage. Because while they still get the flicker around faces they dont have the water prepulsion look.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:21 AM   #11
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Well my two cents is this; Samsung, Sharp and Sony are all made by the same folks. Don't really know the details on who makes which parts, but this is what I know to be factual information. All of these carry the 24fps and 120hz Motionflow. I would venture to say all 3 TVs being equally calibrated would show the same as far as motionflow is concerned. Personally I don't like motionflow on while I'm watching a movie. 24fps is enough for me. I think motionflow works best for live action sports. I have the 46" 71 series Samsung. If the TV had Sony on it I would have purchased it because I like the cabinet better, prettier set to me. I just don't like the glass around the XBR models.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:23 AM   #12
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:54 AM   #13
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I'm watching Lost Season 3 on my 46" Samsung w/ the 120hz on and it looks amazing... haven't seen Sony's model and doubt that it would be to big of a difference. Only complaint I've had w/ it is some ghosting effects when I was watching 30 Days of Night but when I turned the feature down it was ok
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Sony! easy win.
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:48 PM   #15
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All this motion enhancing looks terrible IMO. It will take a great looking film, old or new and make it look like and amateur home video.
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i know for sure that the actual lcd panels on sony and samsung are made from the same company....not sure about any other hardware
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:43 PM   #17
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:16 PM   #18
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the 120hz refresh rate CANNOT be turned off. It is the native refresh rate of the television. They use 120 because it is divisible by all the other numbers used for film and video(24,30 and 60). The only thing that changes is the way the TV multiplies or inserts frames to convert from the original frame rate(24,30, or 60) to 120. If you think that 120hz is going to look different on different TV's that are set up as close to the same as possible you are dreaming. 120hz is 120hz, it is a mathematical constant.
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never can go wrong with a SONY!
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