New BD Player... Did i waste my money? - NO! - Blu-ray Forum

Forresttheman · 04-21-2007, 08:35 AM

I just purchased a Samsung BD player for my samsung 40" LCD. Should i have done this? is blu-ray going to win the battle? Convince me

cdblu · 04-21-2007, 08:49 AM

just wait until you see the numbers for the buyathon. just a preview of bds absolute victory over hd-ded!

Ascended_Saiyan · 04-21-2007, 09:22 AM

Obviously you are convinced already unless it was an impulse buy. There is plenty of information in the forum to not convince but to demonstrate/show you the path Blu-ray is on. By showing you the path that Blu-ray is on, you will see where HD DVD is. I will get you started.

Blu-ray gives you access to 87.5% of the major movie studios of which 5 are exclusive to Blu-ray.

At 48Mbps, Blu-ray has a much higher throughtput (bandwidth) for video and audio than HD DVD's 30MBps. That can translate into the best audio available w/ the best image quality.

BD current max. disc size is 50GB. HD DVD's current max. is 30GB. This translates into longer movies like Lord of the Rings Extended Ed. titles fitting on one disc while still giving you the best in audio and video quality. This also allows for more HD extras to be placed on future titles. HD DVD can not accomplish this w/o extreme sacrifices to AQ, PQ or both.

BDs are $4 to $5 cheaper on average per title than HD DVD.

On PS3...to be continued

Ascended_Saiyan · 04-21-2007, 09:56 AM

Since I am typing this on my PS3, I'm limited to a certain amount of characters.

Getting back to educating you on Blu-ray...
So far this year Blu-ray is responsible for 70% of all HD disc sales to date.

Despite HD DVD launching 2 months ahead of Blu-ray, Blu-ray had control of the SI (since inception) sales numbers since mid-Feb. (leading by 1,000 disc sales at that time). In March that lead increased. As of the end of March, the lead had increased to over 135,000 disc sales and still growing.

There are only less than 300,000 (being generous) HD DVD movie playing devices around worldwide. There are over 3.2 million Blu-ray movie playing devices around the world (1.4 million in the US).

The only thing Blu-ray needs to wrap this war up is Universal to be a neutral studio. HD DVD needs several of Blu-ray's exclusive studios and disc sales.

I have given you the facts. From this point, I believe you can draw your own conclusions.

Welcome to the deep Blu!

Ascended_Saiyan · 04-21-2007, 10:00 AM

BTW, we would appreciate a Blu-ray movie purchase or two from you today on Amazon.com. Today is our Blu-ray buy-a-thon day. Thanks for the support!

Chris Gerhard · 04-21-2007, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forresttheman

I just purchased a Samsung BD player for my samsung 40" LCD. Should i have done this? is blu-ray going to win the battle? Convince me

I don't know what you mean by win, but studio support, hardware manufacturer support, current lead in the market and better quality should mean Blu-ray survives and remains in first place in the next generation DVD war for the duration. What I don't know is whether Blu-ray ever becomes more than a niche market with a bigger share than HD DVD which remains a tinier niche market. Unless Universal ends HD DVD exclusivity, both Blu-ray and HD DVD are going to be around for the duration, just nobody makes much money and both are replaced by the next greatest thing in a few years.

Blu-ray is a great format with a so-so software selection, so just enjoy and don't lose any sleep over the issue.

Chris

Filterlab · 04-21-2007, 11:04 AM

I don't think it's a case of winning or not, Blu-ray is a great form of data storage. It stores massive amounts of data which it can transfer quickly, has huge studio support and sells well (already).

HD-DVD is slightly behind in data quantities but still perfoms well. Whether either will win or not doesn't detract from each medium. At the end of the day Blu-ray and HD-DVD will be around for many years before one or the other peters out - remember that VHS has only stopped in the last couple of years and it was introduced in 1977.

Just relax, enjoy the quality, buy Blu-ray films and don't worry.

Stuie · 04-21-2007, 01:17 PM

And we are not bais or anything on a BD forum either

Go Blu-Ray, w00p w00p.

Scorxpion · 04-21-2007, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forresttheman

I just purchased a Samsung BD player for my samsung 40" LCD. Should i have done this? is blu-ray going to win the battle? Convince me

Adding my only comment in supporting Ascended_Saiyan what have told you,

just watch BD movies and you will convince yourself that you have made the right decision.Enjoy your BD player and congratulations.

The Don · 04-21-2007, 01:39 PM

I'd also like to add that "wasting money" is only a point of view...

if you don't watch movies that much....then, yeah...

but as for the format...it's in the lead with a strong hold that needs to get stronger so HD-DVD REALLY falls behind....they are behind, but they could still rally some sales and right now is where BD can widen the gap......

Deciazulado · 04-21-2007, 01:39 PM

Another one poster! don't you love them!

if you actually bought the thing, why are you worrying?

Go watch movies! There's 229 titles out there to buy this Tuesday in the USA alone! :P

You ain't seen nothing yet!

Stuie · 04-21-2007, 01:47 PM

Agreed Dec. Who pays out the money and then wonders if they have made a mistake in doing so and even then finds out a BR forum (the best one of course

) and then questions it.

Sounds like the damage (if any) has already been doing by buying it...you made a good investment now sit back and reap the rewards.

buckshot · 04-21-2007, 03:08 PM

everyone is missing the main reason:

hd-dvd is a much more descriptive name. but blu-ray just sounds so much cooler.

Filterlab · 04-21-2007, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckshot

everyone is missing the main reason:

hd-dvd is a much more descriptive name. but blu-ray just sounds so much cooler.

That's what attracted me.

(To the format, not Buckshot.)

Ascended_Saiyan · 04-21-2007, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filterlab

I don't think it's a case of winning or not, Blu-ray is a great form of data storage. It stores massive amounts of data which it can transfer quickly, has huge studio support and sells well (already).

HD-DVD is slightly behind in data quantities but still perfoms well. Whether either will win or not doesn't detract from each medium. At the end of the day Blu-ray and HD-DVD will be around for many years before one or the other peters out - remember that VHS has only stopped in the last couple of years and it was introduced in 1977.

Just relax, enjoy the quality, buy Blu-ray films and don't worry.

I'm thinking retailers will help decide the outcome of this war. It seems this is already happening. HD DVD shelf space is becoming smaller and smaller. Less and less of their players are being seen. If the old saying is true, then the war shouldn't last anywhere as long as you think it will.

BTW, the old saying is...Out of sight, out of mind.

BluThunder · 04-21-2007, 08:40 PM

Blu-ray is the way to go. 100%
Don't even think about HD-D#*
If you've bought the new SAMAUNG 1200, then you did a great buy.

Enjoy BD movies!

Forresttheman · 04-21-2007, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

I'm thinking retailers will help decide the outcome of this war. It seems this is already happening. HD DVD shelf space is becoming smaller and smaller. Less and less of their players are being seen. If the old saying is true, then the war shouldn't last anywhere as long as you think it will.

BTW, the old saying is...Out of sight, out of mind.

At the Best Buy where I bought my player at, they did not have a single HDDVD player. Good to hear. exceptional. I try to buy a few movies online today. the selection of Movies to buy seemed to be somewhat equal though...

Ascended_Saiyan · 04-21-2007, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forresttheman

At the Best Buy where I bought my player at, they did not have a single HDDVD player. Good to hear. exceptional. I try to buy a few movies online today. the selection of Movies to buy seemed to be somewhat equal though...

The movie selection is somewhat similar in number. Blu-ray was actually behind in movie selections until Feb. HD DVD launched 2 months before Blu-ray and some of the movie studios didn't start producing titles until latter part of the year. Now, we are 30+ titles ahead of HD DVD. The most important thing to notice when eproductwars.com comes back online is the total amount of copies in-stock. Amazon.com is carrying about 4 times the amount of total copies in-stock than HD DVD.

Thanks for celebrating the buy day with us! I'm about to buy a couple in a few minutes.

Forresttheman · 04-23-2007, 06:00 PM

Which movies did you purchase?

Ascended_Saiyan · 04-24-2007, 01:29 PM

For the buy-a-thon I bought Planet Earth and 50 First Dates. Today I will buy all the titles released except Failure to Launch.

04-21-2007, 08:35 AM	#1
Forresttheman Active Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Seattle, Washington Blu-ray reviews:2	New BD Player... Did i waste my money? - NO! I just purchased a Samsung BD player for my samsung 40" LCD. Should i have done this? is blu-ray going to win the battle? Convince me

04-23-2007, 06:00 PM	#19
Forresttheman Active Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Seattle, Washington Blu-ray reviews:2	Movies Which movies did you purchase?

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04-21-2007, 08:49 AM	#2
cdblu Senior Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:california Blu-ray collection:58	just wait until you see the numbers for the buyathon. just a preview of bds absolute victory over hd-ded!

04-21-2007, 09:22 AM	#3
Ascended_Saiyan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Atlanta, Georgia Blu-ray collection:608 Trading Score:1	Obviously you are convinced already unless it was an impulse buy. There is plenty of information in the forum to not convince but to demonstrate/show you the path Blu-ray is on. By showing you the path that Blu-ray is on, you will see where HD DVD is. I will get you started. Blu-ray gives you access to 87.5% of the major movie studios of which 5 are exclusive to Blu-ray. At 48Mbps, Blu-ray has a much higher throughtput (bandwidth) for video and audio than HD DVD's 30MBps. That can translate into the best audio available w/ the best image quality. BD current max. disc size is 50GB. HD DVD's current max. is 30GB. This translates into longer movies like Lord of the Rings Extended Ed. titles fitting on one disc while still giving you the best in audio and video quality. This also allows for more HD extras to be placed on future titles. HD DVD can not accomplish this w/o extreme sacrifices to AQ, PQ or both. BDs are $4 to $5 cheaper on average per title than HD DVD. On PS3...to be continued

04-21-2007, 09:56 AM	#4
Ascended_Saiyan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Atlanta, Georgia Blu-ray collection:608 Trading Score:1	Since I am typing this on my PS3, I'm limited to a certain amount of characters. Getting back to educating you on Blu-ray... So far this year Blu-ray is responsible for 70% of all HD disc sales to date. Despite HD DVD launching 2 months ahead of Blu-ray, Blu-ray had control of the SI (since inception) sales numbers since mid-Feb. (leading by 1,000 disc sales at that time). In March that lead increased. As of the end of March, the lead had increased to over 135,000 disc sales and still growing. There are only less than 300,000 (being generous) HD DVD movie playing devices around worldwide. There are over 3.2 million Blu-ray movie playing devices around the world (1.4 million in the US). The only thing Blu-ray needs to wrap this war up is Universal to be a neutral studio. HD DVD needs several of Blu-ray's exclusive studios and disc sales. I have given you the facts. From this point, I believe you can draw your own conclusions. Welcome to the deep Blu!

04-21-2007, 10:00 AM	#5
Ascended_Saiyan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Atlanta, Georgia Blu-ray collection:608 Trading Score:1	BTW, we would appreciate a Blu-ray movie purchase or two from you today on Amazon.com. Today is our Blu-ray buy-a-thon day. Thanks for the support!

04-21-2007, 11:04 AM	#7
Filterlab Senior Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:East Molesey, Surrey, UK	I don't think it's a case of winning or not, Blu-ray is a great form of data storage. It stores massive amounts of data which it can transfer quickly, has huge studio support and sells well (already). HD-DVD is slightly behind in data quantities but still perfoms well. Whether either will win or not doesn't detract from each medium. At the end of the day Blu-ray and HD-DVD will be around for many years before one or the other peters out - remember that VHS has only stopped in the last couple of years and it was introduced in 1977. Just relax, enjoy the quality, buy Blu-ray films and don't worry.

04-21-2007, 01:17 PM	#8
Stuie Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	And we are not bais or anything on a BD forum either Go Blu-Ray, w00p w00p.

04-21-2007, 01:39 PM	#10
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	I'd also like to add that "wasting money" is only a point of view... if you don't watch movies that much....then, yeah... but as for the format...it's in the lead with a strong hold that needs to get stronger so HD-DVD REALLY falls behind....they are behind, but they could still rally some sales and right now is where BD can widen the gap......

04-21-2007, 01:39 PM	#11
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1161 Blu-ray collection:7054 DVD collection:4062	Another one poster! don't you love them! if you actually bought the thing, why are you worrying? Go watch movies! There's 229 titles out there to buy this Tuesday in the USA alone! :P You ain't seen nothing yet!

04-21-2007, 01:47 PM	#12
Stuie Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	Agreed Dec. Who pays out the money and then wonders if they have made a mistake in doing so and even then finds out a BR forum (the best one of course ) and then questions it. Sounds like the damage (if any) has already been doing by buying it...you made a good investment now sit back and reap the rewards.

04-21-2007, 03:08 PM	#13
buckshot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:san die ego Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	everyone is missing the main reason: hd-dvd is a much more descriptive name. but blu-ray just sounds so much cooler.

04-21-2007, 08:40 PM	#16
BluThunder Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Hollywood, CA Blu-ray collection:117 DVD collection:5	Blu-ray is the way to go. 100% Don't even think about HD-D#* If you've bought the new SAMAUNG 1200, then you did a great buy. Enjoy BD movies!

04-24-2007, 01:29 PM	#20
Ascended_Saiyan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Atlanta, Georgia Blu-ray collection:608 Trading Score:1	For the buy-a-thon I bought Planet Earth and 50 First Dates. Today I will buy all the titles released except Failure to Launch.

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