Onkyo or Pioneer

[BluPayne4400]

Which one is better and why? Thanks

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-10...8734623&sr=8-1

OR......

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR605...8734746&sr=8-1

[SeanMF]

I would go with the Onkyo. It is 1.3a HDMI compliant and decodes all the hidef audio codecs. It isn't THX certified (the 705 is) but that really doesn't matter as most movies aren't thx. I have the 605 and love it. If you have a ps3 it will decode all the hidef audio into pcm and then decoding in the receiver doesn't matter; go with the Pioneer. I personally would go with the Onkyo as it is more future proof. The Onkyo 705 has been going for a little over $500 lately...i'd buy that if you can afford it. Depends really on if u want the receiver to decode the hidef audio or not...if so the Onkyo...if not the Pioneer.

[rogman]

Originally Posted by BluPayne4400

Which one is better and why? Thanks

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-10...8734623&sr=8-1

OR......

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR605...8734746&sr=8-1

Not sure you could/would get a definitive unbiased answer as to which is better. A lot depends on personal preferences. I've never heard anyone say they have either brand and they're not happy with it. As far as decoding the hi-def audio formats, whether or not it's an issue at all may depend on your Blu-ray player. If you have a PS3, you're going to be using it for the decoding anyway, so your receiver will be getting the PCM signal. Thus, the decoding is a moot point.

While I've never owned an Onkyo receiver, I do have three Pioneer A/V receivers. A 500 series (around $180), and 800 series (~$280), and an Elite 92TXH ($1,170). I'm very happy with all three. I find them to be easy to use, love the MCACC setup, and all three sound buttery smooth. The Pioneers are easy to use as well. My wife and three kids (the youngest who is 6) have no trouble using them, and no trouble setting them up for TV, DVD, etc. I also like the dialogue enhance mode and the midnight mode as well as the various DSP modes.

The Onkyo may have similar features, but like I said, since I've been very happy with the three Pioneers, I haven't had a reason to try anything else. You may also find that certain brands of speakers sound different thru each receiver, so that may be a consideration as well.

Not sure of your experience level, but this short article may be helpful as you decide: http://www.finishabasement.com/home_...a_receiver.htm.

[BluPayne4400]

i got a PS3 by the way

[gvortex7]

Neither. Get the Pioneer VSX-1018TXV. It's coming out in June and will be able to decode both Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. It will be the first non-Elite receiver to be able to that and have HDMI 1.3 connections. It'll retail for around $600, but you'll be able to get it online for around $500.

[Blu Haze]

Ah get the Onkyo for cheaper if you look around like i did in hot deals forum. Or get the Pioneer.

[BluPayne4400]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Neither. Get the Pioneer VSX-1018TXV. It's coming out in June and will be able to decode both Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. It will be the first non-Elite receiver to be able to that and have HDMI 1.3 connections. It'll retail for around $600, but you'll be able to get it online for around $500.

Do you have a link for this?

[TENSE]

get the pioneer elite 92. or just any receiver as long as it is a pioneer.
the onkyo is to big and fat, but not jst that, its ugly.

[Lucy Diamond]

**cough** Yamaha **cough**

RX-V1800

[bigpapy]

get the Yamaha Rx-v663 decodes all new formats and u can get this for about $400 online and also I dint notice any popping when I watch AVP2

[rogman]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Neither. Get the Pioneer VSX-1018TXV. It's coming out in June and will be able to decode both Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. It will be the first non-Elite receiver to be able to that and have HDMI 1.3 connections. It'll retail for around $600, but you'll be able to get it online for around $500.

Since Blu has a PS3 having the receiver decode is a non issue. The HDMI 1.3 might make a difference depending on the display Blu is using. 1.3 gives you the ability to pass the wider color space (deep color) but only if you're feeding a 1.3 display.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by seanfarley2

I would go with the Onkyo. It is 1.3a HDMI compliant and decodes all the hidef audio codecs. It isn't THX certified (the 705 is) but that really doesn't matter as most movies aren't thx. I have the 605 and love it. If you have a ps3 it will decode all the hidef audio into pcm and then decoding in the receiver doesn't matter; go with the Pioneer. I personally would go with the Onkyo as it is more future proof. The Onkyo 705 has been going for a little over $500 lately...i'd buy that if you can afford it. Depends really on if u want the receiver to decode the hidef audio or not...if so the Onkyo...if not the Pioneer.

sean its been reported by a few onyko 605 owners that these units run hotter then other receviers,do you find that true?
also onkyo's tend to sound brighter then other brands,which means you would need speakers that were on the bass side.
pioneers and yamaha's tend to sound warmer.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by BluPayne4400

Which one is better and why? Thanks

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-10...8734623&sr=8-1

OR......

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR605...8734746&sr=8-1

yamaha has two new receivers.the rxv663 is the cheaper one.
but i haven't heard these receivers in action.these receivers have all the new audio codecs including dtshd-ma and the old codecs

[tvine2000]

i'll tell you one thing what you get with receivers these days and the great prices to go along with it,you can't go wrong.
from what i've seen these new receivers from onkyo,pioneer,and yamaha with the new audio codecs are cheaper then receivers without the new codecs.
looking at the back of these receivers you get all the old features as well as the new!

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by TENSE

get the pioneer elite 92. or just any receiver as long as it is a pioneer.
the onkyo is to big and fat, but not jst that, its ugly.

there is a big difference in sound with these 2 receivers
onkyos are brighter,the pioneer's more even sounding.
sorry,i spend a lot time in a recording studio,so i'm picky about the sound of mixing boards,and speakers etc. and there all different.tascams tend to sound more mid range to the high end,fostex tend to sound more even high end to low end,then add speakers to the mix and that can affect how things sound.like hdtv's ,receivers company's tend to have there own style with how the receiver sounds by itself.
having said all that people tend to have different tastes in sound,some like things more on the bass end,some like it on the high end.
the best thing you can do is go to your local store and hear what these receivers sound like,if they are willing to do that.i woundn't always go by what people say because what they are happy with may not work for you.
sound ,to me is a personal thing,so do your homework and i'm sure you will find the receiver that works for you.i don't care what it looks like as long as it does what the hype says it does.

[digibob]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Neither. Get the Pioneer VSX-1018TXV. It's coming out in June and will be able to decode both Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. It will be the first non-Elite receiver to be able to that and have HDMI 1.3 connections. It'll retail for around $600, but you'll be able to get it online for around $500.

I have to agree with the VSX 1018TXV. I saw it a CES and it looks great with lots of features. I am waiting for this one.

http://ces.cnet.com/8300-13855_1-67-...=VSX-1018TXH-K

[Abbott]

sounds good to me

[jsnkiefer]

I am DYING to upgrade to lossless audio on Blu-Ray.
My budget would be around $500 (more or less).
I see myself having 2 options.

Option 1: Upgrade to a receiver that has HDMI switching and can decode
lossless codecs.

Option 2: Upgrade Blu-Ray player to a model that decodes the lossless
codecs and output via multichannel audio outputs.

What would be the advantages or disadvantages of either option?

As the post title states, I would choose the Oppo BDP-83 for my Blu upgrade
and the Pioneer VSX-1019AH as the receiver upgrade, possibly the Onkyo TX-SR607. I've picked these as they fall within my budget ($500).

Being new to these codecs, I'm not sure if I'm forgetting to leave anything out of this equation. All comments much appreciated.

My current gear: Display: Panasonic TH-50PZ80U
Receiver: Marantz SR7300
Blu-Ray: Sony BDP-S350
Speakers: Def Tech BP-2002 (front)
Def Tech C/L/R 2002 (center)
Def Tech BP1X (surround)

[haydentf]

three Onkyo receivers and couldn't be happy. Right now I have the 5700 hooked and is amazing, also there highest end model. Normally goes for $2600 but you can get it New Egg foe $1899 this weekend (pus no tax.) Highly recommend.

I have a 905 sitting aroud (last years high end). If you're interested let me know. I was going to set it up in the bed room but that s a bit of over kill!

Tom

[Steve]

Personally I wouldn't buy either one of them. I used to have the Onkyo, and it's a good receiver, but neither of them have pre-outs so you can never add an amp later. I would look at the Yamaha RX-V663 or Marantz SR5003 because they do have pre-outs.