Pre-pro problems with 3d

[dholmes]

I have a 3d projector & blu-ray player but my pre-pro is only 1.3 not 3d friendly,the pre-pro is a onkyo pro 5507,does anyone have this old pre-pro & use it with 3d? The player is Sony 790 & it has 2 hdmi outputs and connected to the Onkyo but Im doing something wrong,cant get 3d to pass though it. thanks

[roar]

You need to run one HDMI from the Blu-Ray player to the Onkyo for sound and the other from the Blu-Ray player to your projector for the video. You will not, as far as I know, be able to run your video through the Onkyo in any way at all if you want 3D to work, you need to go straight from your Sony to your Projector, so here's hoping your projector has a second HDMI port.

[bobbydrugar]

You don't need a second HDMI port on your Projector Just an HDMI Switch that could actually be placed somewhere in the middle of the run from the Onkyo/Blu-ray Player and the Projector. That would accomplish 2 things. first it would give you the second HDMI port you need for the projector and second it would add a signal repeater in the long cable run that could help maintain a better quality signal from device to projector.

Just a thought
T

[roar]

Originally Posted by bobbydrugar

You don't need a second HDMI port on your Projector Just an HDMI Switch that could actually be placed somewhere in the middle of the run from the Onkyo/Blu-ray Player and the Projector. That would accomplish 2 things. first it would give you the second HDMI port you need for the projector and second it would add a signal repeater in the long cable run that could help maintain a better quality signal from device to projector.

Just a thought
T

And a good thought it was!

[dholmes]

thanks everyone,Ive been reading the manual on both & its suppose to work without using another hdmi cable to projector,the Sony says you select both on the hdmi output.My projector is a Epson 6020u,I think the Onkyo is the problem I dont want to get rid of & get a different one that is 1.4

[roar]

Originally Posted by dholmes

thanks everyone,Ive been reading the manual on both & its suppose to work without using another hdmi cable to projector,the Sony says you select both on the hdmi output.My projector is a Epson 6020u,I think the Onkyo is the problem I dont want to get rid of & get a different one that is 1.4

Have you tried this? Take the HDMI cable going from your Onkyo and to the Epson and plug that directly into the Sony rather than the Onkyo, take the Onkyo out of the equation for now. Does this get you a 3D picture? If does there are some more steps to take here to get you your sound and everything else working.

[dholmes]

thanks that way works but i dont have have sound,i have to use coaxial,im doing something wrong will the onkyo because my player has 2 hdmi outputs for a pre-pro-receiver that doest have 1.4

[roar]

Originally Posted by dholmes

thanks that way works but i dont have have sound,i have to use coaxial,im doing something wrong will the onkyo because my player has 2 hdmi outputs for a pre-pro-receiver that doest have 1.4

You don't need a 1.4... you are going to need a HDMI switch though, or another long HDMI cable to run to your projector.

What we've proved here is that your Onkyo cannot pass a 3D signal through to your projector at all. Which shouldn't surprise us as it is a 1.3 receiver The point of the two ports on the back of your Sony is so that you can send a video signal directly to your display AND a second one to your receiver to process sound. So one HDMI cable needs to go to your Epson and a second one needs to go to your Onkyo.

Now here is where you have two options to do this.

1. Run a second HDMI cable from your Sony all the way to your Epson... that was my original suggestion, but lots of people cannot get a second HDMI cable back to their projector without a whole lot of fuss so this may not be an option for you... if it is... you will run it to HDMI 2 on your Epson.

To watch a blu-ray you will need to switch your Epson to HDMI 2 and you will need to switch your Onkyo to 'Blu-Ray' or whatever HDMI port you plugged your Sony into.

2. Introduce an HDMI switch into the mix. A 2x1 switch should be fine. You take the HDMI cable that is currently coming from your Epson and plug that into the output of the HDMI switch. You then take the Onkyo and plug that into one of the inputs on the switch and then you take your Sony and plug it into the other. You still need to plug a SECOND HDMI cable from the Sony into the Onkyo... you need to get sound to the Onkyo.

When you want to watch a Blu-Ray you will need to flip the switch over to the input that has the Blu-Ray player on it. When you want to watch anything else you have running through your Onkyo you will need to switch over to that input and again you will need to switch the Onkyo over to your 'Blu Ray' input or wherever you plugged the second HDMI cable into.

Is this getting clearer at all to you, cause I feel as if I'm typing myself into circles, it is totally clear in my head but not coming out terribly clear here

The benefits of the second second solution is that you don't need a second long run of HDMI to your Epson and you don't need to switch inputs on the Epson every time you want to watch a 3D movie... you only need to change inputs on the switch and the Onkyo.
Another thing that isn't clear to me is if a 2D picture will display fine when you are running 2 HDMI's out of the Sony... I'm wondering if you will need to switch to HDMI 2 on your Epson or change the input on the HDMI switch ONLY if you want to view a 3D movie... I'm not sure about this, but something makes me think that is the case.

[bobbydrugar]

You need to run the first HDMI (Main) Out of the sony Blu-ray player to your projector. Next you need to run an HDMI cable from the second HDMI (Secondary) to the Onkyo. Once all your cables are hooked up (again using both hdmi out ports on the sony one to the projector and one to the pre-pro) you will go into the setup menu of the sony Blu-ray player and configure the HDMI ports to send audio only out the second HDMI output and Video only out the Main HDMI output. That should allow you to send the video signal in 3d to the projector and send the digital audio (full lossless) to the Pre-pro.

Hope that helps
T

[dholmes]

Thanks a bunch everyone,when I get over the food poisoning & infected bowels that the food poisoning caused(poor me)Ill work out the problem,what hdmi switch do I need?

[dholmes]

Does anyone use this method to get 3d,or do anyone have a pre-pro thats not 1.4,hows the 3d with this way? thanks