Moontrap

[Oliver Krekel]

Take a look:

Moontrap Erste Test - YouTube

[Fiffy]

Oh my. Perhaps it's just the encoding that was done for Youtube, but that looks really crappy and filtered to death. Is this supposed to be a BD release?

Would be nice to have a good release of this little B-movie gem though.

[Oliver Krekel]

Of course it's the youtube codec but we will use DNR for sure. This movie have too much grain because it's shot for SD-Full Screen-TV and it's a wonder that we can get the negative and a positive.

But don't forget, you will not see this movie in a better quality.

[Leslie Dame]

So to my understanding any SD-Full Screen-TV image will look softer upconverted or scaled on HDTV no matter what?

[Pekosbill]

Looks cruel for a Blu Ray. I think it is a little better as a VHS Quality

[Mr. Thomsen]

Originally Posted by Oliver Krekel

Of course it's the youtube codec but we will use DNR for sure. This movie have too much grain because it's shot for SD-Full Screen-TV and it's a wonder that we can get the negative and a positive.

But don't forget, you will not see this movie in a better quality.

Doesn't look like we are going to see it even in an acceptable quality, either, does it, if you insist on your plan of using DNR?

It was shot on 35mm and should look like film, hence *with* grain.

That it was only released on video should not matter at all in the decision to use DNR or not.

For reference, look on some other BD releases of straight-to-video or TV productions from the 1980s, like for example Dark Night of the Scarecrow (available on BD in Germany as Die Nacht der Vogelscheuche), a 1981 TV production shot on film, which looks better on BD than it ever did on TV and good very good reviews because they left the grain intact in the transfer.

[Ill_Be_Back]

Originally Posted by Mr. Thomsen

Doesn't look like we are going to see it even in an acceptable quality, either, does it, if you insist on your plan of using DNR?

It was shot on 35mm and should look like film, hence *with* grain.

That it was only released on video should not matter at all in the decision to use DNR or not.

For reference, look on some other BD releases of straight-to-video or TV productions from the 1980s, like for example Dark Night of the Scarecrow (available on BD in Germany as Die Nacht der Vogelscheuche), a 1981 TV production shot on film, which looks better on BD than it ever did on TV and good very good reviews because they left the grain intact in the transfer.

+1 to that. I was looking forward to the release of Leon (A.W.O.L) until I seen what was done to The Quest and Black Eagle, I don't have much hope for any of these future releases.

[Fiffy]

Originally Posted by Oliver Krekel

Of course it's the youtube codec but we will use DNR for sure. This movie have too much grain because it's shot for SD-Full Screen-TV

According to IMDB it premiered at a film festival.

and it's a wonder that we can get the negative and a positive.

So you are the one responsible for this release?

But don't forget, you will not see this movie in a better quality.

That's a shame. If you really have the negative, I implore you to make it available to someone who knows what they are doing.

[Oliver Krekel]

We know EXACTLy what we doing
And THE QUEST for example looks better in our version than in the US-Version. 35mm needs grain????
What a Bullshit
The good thing is, you don't have to buy it

[Fiffy]

Originally Posted by Oliver Krekel

The good thing is, you don't have to buy it

Well, if that snippet on Youtube and your attitude here are an indication of your professionalism, you won't have to worry about that.

[Oliver Krekel]

I don't worry about that, believe me

[DirkUSA]

Originally Posted by Oliver Krekel

We know EXACTLy what we doing
And THE QUEST for example looks better in our version than in the US-Version. 35mm needs grain????
What a Bullshit
The good thing is, you don't have to buy it

Originally Posted by Fiffy

Well, if that snippet on Youtube and your attitude here are an indication of your professionalism, you won't have to worry about that.

Exactly!

Originally Posted by Oliver Krekel

I don't worry about that, believe me

Sad..................................just sad.........................................

[Oliver Krekel]

Don't cry

We make the final master for the whole world so I think the filmmaker know's what he wants

But I know, 35mm needs grain

[bigrob]

did this even get an offical DVD release?

i can finally retire my crappy VHS to DVD version anyway

I'm getting this. such a fun film

Quick question for Mr Krekel though

is it the full uncut version as shown here -> http://www.schnittberichte.com/schni...ht.php?ID=4950

[Pekosbill]

Originally Posted by Oliver Krekel

Don't cry

We make the final master for the whole world so I think the filmmaker know's what he wants

But I know, 35mm needs grain

Ha Ha that's funny again, master of the whole world? and why did they use a German cinema copy, which has already several performances behind?

[DirkUSA]

Originally Posted by Oliver Krekel

Don't cry

We make the final master for the whole world so I think the filmmaker know's what he wants

But I know, 35mm needs grain

[kinkyqueen]

This thread is very special

[Moonlight Shadow]

Krekel on Blu-ray.com!! That should be fun!!!

For the uninitiated: Oliver Krekel is infamous in Germany for releasing THE worst DVDs and Blu-rays imaginable. Think upscaled SD masters, DNR massacres...the whole shebang.
Before every new release he's boasting about it on various internet forums (well, those where he isn't banned yet) and when the shitstorm starts after people have seen the crap he has released he starts defending the quality of his DVDs/Blu-rays in the most hilarious ways.
Plus for a guy who has been producing DVDs and Blu-rays for many years he seems to be absolutely clueless when it comes to the technical specifics of film and video technology.

I'm outta here but I will certainly enjoy to read this thread and otheres where the OP participates.

[DirkUSA]

Originally Posted by kinkyqueen

This thread is very special

World-Best

[Oliver Krekel]

Originally Posted by bigrob

did this even get an offical DVD release?

i can finally retire my crappy VHS to DVD version anyway

I'm getting this. such a fun film

Quick question for Mr Krekel though

is it the full uncut version as shown here -> http://www.schnittberichte.com/schni...ht.php?ID=4950

Yes, it will be the longest version worldwide with all scenes which missing in the US-Version and the German-Version.