1440p?!?! - Blu-ray Forum

Mike Z · 06-01-2008, 08:14 PM

Maybe I'm getting worried too soon. But within the last year I bought a really nice 65" DLP HDTV, a blu-ray player and a bunch of blu-ray movies and love the quality of it all.

But now I'm hearing things about 1440p resolution coming out this year. Is this seriously going to make all the HDTV's, blu-ray players and blu-ray movies obsolete? Are they coming out with a new format with movies in 1440p resolution?

This is seriously bothering me after all the money I've spent on high definition items. Any feedback is appreciated.

Mike

jibucha · 06-01-2008, 08:28 PM

Absolutely Not!!!

sokrman14 · 06-01-2008, 08:31 PM

Dont worry about it. Even if it does come out this year it will be a ton of money and will only be in really really large TV.s But it wont come out this year anyways. It is a ways off.

Mike Z · 06-01-2008, 08:37 PM

Thanks guys, that's kinda what I wanted to hear. I'll still be upset if all this stuff we've all purchased is obsolete in another year or two. It was 10 years between DVD and blu-ray which is okay but three short years between blu-ray and some new format would be ridiculous.

But anyway, thanks for the input so far, I appreciate it.

Mike

BluRay Rulez · 06-01-2008, 08:42 PM

There will always be something better on the horizon. It's just a matte of time and how much the consumer is willing to spend. Blu-ray is taking 'baby steps' with the average consumers, so it will be a while before we find something else that will take blu-rays place.

RClarke · 06-01-2008, 08:46 PM

Think of the best blu ray movie PQ you've seen.

Do you really think it can get THAT much better?

I'm also not dissapointed that I own nearly 200 standard DVDs and now they are "obsolete" compared to blu ray. I'm a collector and I always will be.

crackinhedz · 06-01-2008, 08:48 PM

the TV can be 1440p, but if you have no sources in 1440p, its kinda pointless.

JasonR · 06-01-2008, 08:53 PM

Yeah, we are just now getting 1080i & 720p though our service providers after many years of 480i. How long do you think it will be before they start broadcasting in a higher resolution? I certainly don't think it will be this year....

HOME THEATRE ADDICT! · 06-01-2008, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Z

Maybe I'm getting worried too soon. But within the last year I bought a really nice 65" DLP HDTV, a blu-ray player and a bunch of blu-ray movies and love the quality of it all.

But now I'm hearing things about 1440p resolution coming out this year. Is this seriously going to make all the HDTV's, blu-ray players and blu-ray movies obsolete? Are they coming out with a new format with movies in 1440p resolution?

This is seriously bothering me after all the money I've spent on high definition items. Any feedback is appreciated.

Mike

IF THEY DO THAT, I WOULDNT THROW MY 1080P TV OUT! I ONLY HAVE A BLU-RAY PLAYER, HD-DVD PLAYER,(BEFORE I KNEW IT WOULD BE A DEAD TECHNOLOGY) AND PS3 CONNECTED THROUGH MY RECEIVER TO MY DLP TV. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN YOU BUY SOMETHING, BY THE TIME YOU GET IT HOME ITS ALREADY OUTDATED. IM SURE 1440 WONT AFFECT WHAT IVE ALREADY GOT BUT I KNOW I CANT GET THAT RESOLUTION WITH WHAT I HAVE. I CAN LIVE WITH THAT. TRYING TO KEEP UP CAN PUT YOU IN A STRAIGHT JACKET!

U4K61 · 06-01-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonR

Yeah, we are just now getting 1080i & 720p though our service providers after many years of 480i. How long do you think it will be before they start broadcasting in a higher resolution? I certainly don't think it will be this year....

I would much rather see them bring out MPEG4 1080p/60 for fast action sports then try to push more pixels. 1080p/60 is an improvement I can enjoy right now with the stuff I have.

ZackL · 06-02-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RClarke

Think of the best blu ray movie PQ you've seen.

Do you really think it can get THAT much better?

I'm also not dissapointed that I own nearly 200 standard DVDs and now they are "obsolete" compared to blu ray. I'm a collector and I always will be.

I bet when DVD's came out people all said " Well this is it. No way it can get better then this!!!" But here we are. There's always something that much better coming.

U4K61 · 06-02-2008, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ZackL

I bet when DVD's came out people all said " Well this is it. No way it can get better then this!!!" But here we are. There's always something that much better coming.

At nearly the same time DVD came out, 720p and 1080i HD transmissions began. DVD looked dirty and forever out of focus next to the early digital broadcast loops. SONY was working on a high deff replacement since day one of DVD. However, thanks to anamorphic DVD, it gave us lots of content and a reason to own a 16:9 TV. The few minutes of true HD programming available at the time was not a compelling reasion to get a new set. DVD paved the way for something better that we knew was already in the wings..

bdLuvr · 06-02-2008, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ZackL

I bet when DVD's came out people all said " Well this is it. No way it can get better then this!!!" But here we are. There's always something that much better coming.

Tru dat but 1440p from 1080p is not enough of a big enough jump to me. e.g 480i to 1080p...

allargon · 06-02-2008, 04:31 PM

That 1440p will upconvert! 1080p stuff just like your 1080p display upconverts 480i/p and 720p stuff. That guy who has the 6 million dollar home theater with a 4k projector upconverts measely 1080p high definition sources as well

http://gizmodo.com/353963/6-million-...orth-the-money
.

kalkin84 · 06-02-2008, 05:09 PM

there is no need for 1440p, and by the reasoning i am going to employ here there is no need for for most people to have 1080p either.

Maximum def desired display = maximum def source. that's it. IF you have a blu-ray player/PS3/appropriate PC THEN, and only then, should you require a 1080p set.

exactly 0% of broadcast HD is 1080p, so for the majority of HD users (who still don't have BD players) there is no need for 1080p. 100% of broadcast HD is 1080i/720p (roughly 90% 1080i : 10% 720p), though roughly 10% of broadcast in a BEST CASE scenario is HD, period.

due to bandwidth requirements of 1080p there will be little (i'm betting none) 1080p content in traditional broacast (ant/cable/sat) for the next 5+ years, probably 10.

Review: who "needs" 1080p? the user with a 1080p source, or one who will acquire a 1080p source in the near future.

who "needs" 1440p? no one. unless you have a 1440p out putting computer and compatible transmition medium you would be wasting money on the display and time on worrying. If you still insist on it then you have far too much disposable income and i have a 133700p display to sell you as well, comes with a free bridge (in brooklyn too; location location location!), and is tax deductible

Mike Z · 06-03-2008, 01:58 AM

Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the advice.

I'm not losing sleep over this or anything lol...but 1440p was something that I noticed and figured I'd ask you guys about it.

Thanks for all the input and healthy discussion.

Mike

P.S.: Can't wait for Signs, There Will Be Blood and Cloverfield tomorrow

mr.hidef · 06-03-2008, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

the TV can be 1440p, but if you have no sources in 1440p, its kinda pointless.

You da man crackin!!!

mr.hidef · 06-03-2008, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalkin84

there is no need for 1440p, and by the reasoning i am going to employ here there is no need for for most people to have 1080p either.

Maximum def desired display = maximum def source. that's it. IF you have a blu-ray player/PS3/appropriate PC THEN, and only then, should you require a 1080p set.

exactly 0% of broadcast HD is 1080p, so for the majority of HD users (who still don't have BD players) there is no need for 1080p. 100% of broadcast HD is 1080i/720p (roughly 90% 1080i : 10% 720p), though roughly 10% of broadcast in a BEST CASE scenario is HD, period.

due to bandwidth requirements of 1080p there will be little (i'm betting none) 1080p content in traditional broacast (ant/cable/sat) for the next 5+ years, probably 10.

Review: who "needs" 1080p? the user with a 1080p source, or one who will acquire a 1080p source in the near future.

who "needs" 1440p? no one. unless you have a 1440p out putting computer and compatible transmition medium you would be wasting money on the display and time on worrying. If you still insist on it then you have far too much disposable income and i have a 133700p display to sell you as well, comes with a free bridge (in brooklyn too; location location location!), and is tax deductible

I heard that once feb. 2009 hits, t.v. will be a upgrade away from 1080p broadcast

mr.hidef · 06-03-2008, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Z

Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the advice.

I'm not losing sleep over this or anything lol...but 1440p was something that I noticed and figured I'd ask you guys about it.

Thanks for all the input and healthy discussion.

Mike

P.S.: Can't wait for Signs, There Will Be Blood and Cloverfield tomorrow

+1

06-01-2008, 08:14 PM	#1
Mike Z Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Virginia Beach Blu-ray collection:204	1440p?!?! Maybe I'm getting worried too soon. But within the last year I bought a really nice 65" DLP HDTV, a blu-ray player and a bunch of blu-ray movies and love the quality of it all. But now I'm hearing things about 1440p resolution coming out this year. Is this seriously going to make all the HDTV's, blu-ray players and blu-ray movies obsolete? Are they coming out with a new format with movies in 1440p resolution? This is seriously bothering me after all the money I've spent on high definition items. Any feedback is appreciated. Mike

06-01-2008, 08:28 PM	#2
jibucha Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Trading Score:45	Simple Answer Absolutely Not!!!

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sokrman14 Special Member Member since:Mar 2006 Location:Omaha, NE Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:32 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Dont worry about it. Even if it does come out this year it will be a ton of money and will only be in really really large TV.s But it wont come out this year anyways. It is a ways off.

06-01-2008, 08:37 PM	#4
Mike Z Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Virginia Beach Blu-ray collection:204	Thanks guys, that's kinda what I wanted to hear. I'll still be upset if all this stuff we've all purchased is obsolete in another year or two. It was 10 years between DVD and blu-ray which is okay but three short years between blu-ray and some new format would be ridiculous. But anyway, thanks for the input so far, I appreciate it. Mike

06-01-2008, 08:42 PM	#5
BluRay Rulez Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Trading Score:10	There will always be something better on the horizon. It's just a matte of time and how much the consumer is willing to spend. Blu-ray is taking 'baby steps' with the average consumers, so it will be a while before we find something else that will take blu-rays place.

06-01-2008, 08:46 PM	#6
RClarke Active Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:46	Think of the best blu ray movie PQ you've seen. Do you really think it can get THAT much better? I'm also not dissapointed that I own nearly 200 standard DVDs and now they are "obsolete" compared to blu ray. I'm a collector and I always will be.

06-01-2008, 08:48 PM	#7
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	the TV can be 1440p, but if you have no sources in 1440p, its kinda pointless.

06-01-2008, 08:53 PM	#8
JasonR Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:12	Yeah, we are just now getting 1080i & 720p though our service providers after many years of 480i. How long do you think it will be before they start broadcasting in a higher resolution? I certainly don't think it will be this year....

06-02-2008, 04:31 PM	#14
allargon Member Member since:May 2008 Trading Score:1	That 1440p will upconvert! 1080p stuff just like your 1080p display upconverts 480i/p and 720p stuff. That guy who has the 6 million dollar home theater with a 4k projector upconverts measely 1080p high definition sources as well http://gizmodo.com/353963/6-million-...orth-the-money .

06-02-2008, 05:09 PM	#15
kalkin84 Member Member since:Feb 2008	there is no need for 1440p, and by the reasoning i am going to employ here there is no need for for most people to have 1080p either. Maximum def desired display = maximum def source. that's it. IF you have a blu-ray player/PS3/appropriate PC THEN, and only then, should you require a 1080p set. exactly 0% of broadcast HD is 1080p, so for the majority of HD users (who still don't have BD players) there is no need for 1080p. 100% of broadcast HD is 1080i/720p (roughly 90% 1080i : 10% 720p), though roughly 10% of broadcast in a BEST CASE scenario is HD, period. due to bandwidth requirements of 1080p there will be little (i'm betting none) 1080p content in traditional broacast (ant/cable/sat) for the next 5+ years, probably 10. Review: who "needs" 1080p? the user with a 1080p source, or one who will acquire a 1080p source in the near future. who "needs" 1440p? no one. unless you have a 1440p out putting computer and compatible transmition medium you would be wasting money on the display and time on worrying. If you still insist on it then you have far too much disposable income and i have a 133700p display to sell you as well, comes with a free bridge (in brooklyn too; location location location!), and is tax deductible

06-03-2008, 01:58 AM	#16
Mike Z Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Virginia Beach Blu-ray collection:204	Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the advice. I'm not losing sleep over this or anything lol...but 1440p was something that I noticed and figured I'd ask you guys about it. Thanks for all the input and healthy discussion. Mike P.S.: Can't wait for Signs, There Will Be Blood and Cloverfield tomorrow

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