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#83 |
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Thanks given by: | Deadguy2322 (03-20-2020) |
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#86 |
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Bumblefoot fan signing in! Saw this lineup live twice, the second time in 2012 they even started 15 minutes early (unseen for GnR). Both instances they played for 3 hours, amazing concerts and Axl sounded great live. Part of me wishes this was a festival setting and not the Vegas residency, but can't wait to rock this in 3D!
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#90 |
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Watched the November Rain clip, and wow do I feel bad about everything I saw and heard. Just... yikes. Sounds like a bad comedy cover.
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Thanks given by: | Deadguy2322 (03-20-2020) |
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Blu-ray Knight
Jul 2011
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They both lost out but the new band has some very important musicians in it. One of them was worshiped by Nirvana and every other hair metal killing band. |
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#92 |
Blu-ray Samurai
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Thanks given by: | Deadguy2322 (03-20-2020) |
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#93 |
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Seriously? Why is it no one has loyalty anymore? Ever heard of the band Nine Inch Nails? The lineup changes just about EVERY tour and always sounds amazing. Why? Because of Trent Reznor. Why do people care about the live band? Because of Trent Reznor. Agree or not, Axl is the main draw for GNR. Has he aged well? Nope. But he's been humbled. He doesn't sound nearly as good as back in the 90's, but that's no reason to shit all over the guy. If you don't like the new band or Axl's voice, don't buy the concert and politely get the **** out of this forum.
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#94 | |
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GnR *as a band* of mostly equal contributors came up with a couple great EPs and one of the greatest debut albums in hard rock, losing only the drummer to come up with a pair of excellent followup albums. Totally different dynamic. Add to that the sleazy way Axl essentially bought out the other members stake in the band and eventually squeezed them out of *his* band in the mid 90's. It's like Mick Jagger pushing the rest of the Rolling Stones out of the band and bringing in a bunch of new musicians and sticking with the band name. Add to that the fact Axl's band has released a grand total of *one* new studio album (which wasn't very good) in over 2 decades and has essentially toured for over a decade mostly on the back of the classic music with a ridiculously bloated band and it should be pretty clear why there's such a large number of (former) fans who despise Axl. Speaking for myself, I'm curious about this new BD, mostly for the 3D concert factor and will probably pick it up this week. But GnR dropped off my radar a long, long time ago as a favorite band. |
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Thanks given by: | AlexIlDottore (07-03-2014), Deadguy2322 (03-20-2020) |
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This disc is region-free. ![]() Extras include short (6:31 or less, each) interviews with Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and DJ Ashba (all in 1080p with DTS-HD MA 2.0 audio), as well as a silent 1080p slideshow (3:20). There are no subtitles for anything on the disc. BDInfo scan Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 01001.MPLS AVC 2:43:35 41,908,733,952 47,447,813,667 34.16 16.28 DTS-HD Master 5.1 5245Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS-HD Master 2.0 2333Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) Code:
DISC INFO: Disc Title: Appetite_for_Democracy Disc Size: 47,447,813,667 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: No Extras: Blu-ray 3D BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 01001.MPLS Length: 2:43:35.847 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 41,908,733,952 bytes Total Bitrate: 34.16 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 16277 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 MPEG-4 MVC Video 8184 kbps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio English 5245 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 5245 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) DTS-HD Master Audio English 2333 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2333 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00000.SSIF 0:00:00.000 2:43:35.847 41,908,733,952 34,156 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 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0:27:06.541 0:07:22.442 16,369 kbps 28,204 kbps 00:28:57.193 19,795 kbps 00:28:55.150 18,227 kbps 00:30:54.269 85,340 bytes 386,600 bytes 00:33:16.661 7 0:34:28.983 0:05:00.174 16,281 kbps 24,777 kbps 00:39:10.556 18,300 kbps 00:38:04.198 17,448 kbps 00:38:31.392 84,884 bytes 396,415 bytes 00:37:31.249 8 0:39:29.158 0:03:06.728 16,320 kbps 25,143 kbps 00:40:10.032 19,416 kbps 00:40:07.071 17,930 kbps 00:40:02.942 85,084 bytes 381,899 bytes 00:39:39.835 9 0:42:35.886 0:05:18.943 16,275 kbps 23,149 kbps 00:45:40.779 17,806 kbps 00:46:15.898 17,101 kbps 00:47:06.490 84,848 bytes 393,499 bytes 00:43:35.029 10 0:47:54.830 0:05:12.228 16,399 kbps 27,332 kbps 00:50:05.919 19,405 kbps 00:51:24.039 17,981 kbps 00:51:18.825 85,499 bytes 418,452 bytes 00:53:01.803 11 0:53:07.058 0:03:59.364 16,388 kbps 28,940 kbps 00:55:11.599 19,513 kbps 00:55:07.762 17,701 kbps 00:54:18.046 85,440 bytes 378,080 bytes 00:54:34.688 12 0:57:06.423 0:03:56.235 16,236 kbps 22,096 kbps 01:00:44.015 17,591 kbps 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01:29:30.823 19 1:29:35.370 0:09:01.541 16,222 kbps 26,006 kbps 01:37:49.154 19,652 kbps 01:37:48.279 18,237 kbps 01:37:40.813 84,574 bytes 458,336 bytes 01:38:34.033 20 1:38:36.911 0:03:35.215 16,336 kbps 24,410 kbps 01:41:58.195 18,473 kbps 01:41:09.646 17,135 kbps 01:41:56.485 85,171 bytes 384,807 bytes 01:38:52.676 21 1:42:12.126 0:05:49.557 16,316 kbps 22,909 kbps 01:42:43.866 17,854 kbps 01:43:21.236 17,082 kbps 01:46:08.987 85,065 bytes 390,435 bytes 01:46:58.620 22 1:48:01.683 0:07:14.267 16,361 kbps 28,410 kbps 01:52:41.504 19,981 kbps 01:52:38.209 18,261 kbps 01:52:40.462 85,297 bytes 413,269 bytes 01:51:31.768 23 1:55:15.950 0:04:22.220 15,564 kbps 26,076 kbps 01:59:33.082 18,087 kbps 01:59:29.078 17,441 kbps 01:58:48.538 81,144 bytes 432,040 bytes 01:58:46.744 24 1:59:38.171 0:12:29.748 16,341 kbps 26,269 kbps 02:05:49.708 19,313 kbps 02:09:46.028 17,968 kbps 02:09:41.523 85,197 bytes 414,713 bytes 02:04:16.949 25 2:12:07.920 0:01:59.077 16,320 kbps 29,179 kbps 02:13:24.287 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#96 |
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It has nothing to do with "loyalty" and everything to do with liking Guns N' Roses but not wanting to deal with a washed up, burnt out Axl Rose whose blown-out voice sounds like he's been cleaning his throat with a bottle brush for the past twenty years.
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#97 |
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#99 |
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Read some earlier posts about loyalty and whatnot and i find it hysterical!! I was a teen when gnr were at their peak during the 90's and everyone on the gnr ride back then knew that axl rose had serious problems about what he thought that band should be and that it was a matter of time before it all came to an end. Im just glad i got to see them back in 1992 on the guns n metallica tour. It was a great show but of course gnr came on about an hour and a half late, which was par for the course for them during that last year they were together. It wasnt because of the other members of course, it was due to rose which is one of the reasons that izzy left the band back in 1991.
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I was in Vegas during their shows at Hard Rock and I did not hesitate.....to keep driving past it. I do not doubt that they put on a great show post Slash but, I could not listen to Chinese Democracy. I remember listening to Appetite for Destruction for the first time and I could smell the alcohol fumes and cocaine powder coming from the speakers. What an amazing album!
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