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Old 06-08-2008, 05:50 PM   #1
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They have two posts for hi frequency and two posts for low frequency. They also have two gold pieces that seem to attach from red hi freq to red low freq and black hi freq to black low freq. Running speaker wire from my receiver to the speaker, which posts should i plug into?

BTW, they're RF-25's
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As long as the connectors are connecting the posts, I don't think it matters. There's a black Klipsch envelope in the box . . . instructions are in there. I've got mine plugged into the top set of posts.

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Old 06-08-2008, 06:03 PM   #3
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It should make a difference, the top set is for the tweeter and the bottom for the woofer so which ever one you pick will be emphasized. Also most people get rid of those metal plates and run a short length of speaker wire between the posts.

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Old 06-08-2008, 06:06 PM   #4
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I bought mine used so no envelope, but i'm pretty sure you're right, since it makes perfect sense. Thank you much.
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It should make a difference, the top set is for the tweeter and the bottom for the woofer so which ever one you pick will be emphasized. Also most people get rid of those metal plates and run a short length of speaker wire between the posts.

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hmmm, just when i thought i was placated. Come to think of it i have seen pictures with the little wires running from the top pair to the bottome pair of binding posts. So, which set should i plug into for the proper emphasis on front speakers?
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Old 06-08-2008, 06:13 PM   #6
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I theory you will not notice any diff. You can connect to either-or.
I have mine Bi-wired using 14/4 cable.
I removed the contact bars and connect to both the top and bottom using 2 pair of bannana plugs. On the receiver end the two hots and two grounds are twisted together and connected to the receiver with bannana plugs.
In theory the bi-wire offers less resistance.
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Old 06-08-2008, 06:18 PM   #7
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It should make a difference, the top set is for the tweeter and the bottom for the woofer so which ever one you pick will be emphasized. Also most people get rid of those metal plates and run a short length of speaker wire between the posts.
Bill, so long as the jumpers are in place, it won't matter to which set he attaches and neither highs nor lows should be emphasized. Yes, some folks replace the strap jumpers with wire, and some don't because they can detect no difference.

OP: The four posts are provided for users who wish to biamp. Since you're not, simply leave the jumpers in place and attach to either top or bottom sets of posts.
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Old 06-08-2008, 06:25 PM   #8
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thanks so much guys. Ultimately i'm gonna have to wait until next paycheck to get my new receiver, so at that time i will try the "easy" way and if it sounds good i'll probably leave it. The bi-wiring idea sounds pretty cool though. I've got pretty good ears for someone who's played in loud rock bands half his life, so i might eventually try that method just for the heck of it.
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Old 06-08-2008, 06:39 PM   #9
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...The bi-wiring idea sounds pretty cool though. I've got pretty good ears for someone who's played in loud rock bands half his life, so i might eventually try that method just for the heck of it.
If you do, try to do it "on the cheap". Folks whose expertise I respect have uniformly advised me that there's no sonic benefit to this approach. YMMV, of course.

Bi-amping is a whole 'nother discussion.....
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Old 06-08-2008, 07:49 PM   #10
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As said before, the jumpers provide current to all speaker posts thus powering the highs and lows. I have a 5.1 setup with my onkyo 705 so I power the highs and lows using different channels on my receiver. The lows are powered by the normal side main outs and the highs are powered by the 2 rear channel outs that were not being used in my 5.1 setup. This gives the speakers more power and all the channels on my 7.1 receiver are being used. Of course you have to set the receiver up so it knows this but it sounds amazing with the speakers getting more juice.
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Bill, so long as the jumpers are in place, it won't matter to which set he attaches and neither highs nor lows should be emphasized. Yes, some folks replace the strap jumpers with wire, and some don't because they can detect no difference.

OP: The four posts are provided for users who wish to biamp. Since you're not, simply leave the jumpers in place and attach to either top or bottom sets of posts.
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On my Focal Cobalts it does make a clear difference which posts are used. The top posts emphasize the highs and the bottom the lows. Bi wiring from a receiver should have little effect, but bi amping usually does. I bi amp my center to great effect, but try them both and see what you think, but if you hook up two sets of wires be sure you remove the jumpers.

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Hi Bill!

Bi-amping as in using two stereo amps (or four monoblocks)? If so, I certainly agree that it has an effect with the right gear. If you mean bi-wiring using a stereo amp (or two monoblocks) vs. a receiver, my old Martin Logan system* used expensive MIT bi-wires for the last several years, hooked up to an Aragon 4004 amp. I was unable to discern any sonic improvements over other quality, non-bi-wire cables. Yes, the jumpers were removed.

As always, YMMV!

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Old 06-09-2008, 09:56 AM   #13
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I use a 6 channel amp, but was only using 5 and since my prepro has dual center outs i decided to double up my center speaker. Even after i balanced all the speakers i could still notice stronger dialog and more powerful voices. It was the best kind of tweak, free.
Oh the remove the jumper comment was meant for the OP as he experiments.

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hmmm, just when i thought i was placated. Come to think of it i have seen pictures with the little wires running from the top pair to the bottome pair of binding posts. So, which set should i plug into for the proper emphasis on front speakers?
Several respected home theater gurus have done extensive tests to determine if bi-wiring makes a difference.
Conclusion: NO MESUREABLE DIFFERENCE.
Leave the gold bars in place, connect the receiver th either set of terminals, and enjoy!
OR you could get some speaker wire stands, a set of supercharged, atomic, speaker cables for $1,000 and pretend to hear a difference!
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It should make a difference, the top set is for the tweeter and the bottom for the woofer so which ever one you pick will be emphasized. Also most people get rid of those metal plates and run a short length of speaker wire between the posts.

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With the plates in place, he can connect to either, and won't be able to notice a difference regardless of what ones he connects to..... if he does, I chalk it up the the Placebo affect......
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Several respected home theater gurus have done extensive tests to determine if bi-wiring makes a difference.
Conclusion: NO MESUREABLE DIFFERENCE.
Leave the gold bars in place, connect the receiver th either set of terminals, and enjoy!
OR you could get some speaker wire stands, a set of supercharged, atomic, speaker cables for $1,000 and pretend to hear a difference!
The person whose opinion I value above all others--mine--tells me that biwiring can, and usually does, make a difference. I tried my first bi-writing experiements years ago (using a pair of Tannoy Mercurys). Despite being dubious of the benefits, I was surprised to hear that it worked very well, so I've been a bi-writing advocate ever since. There are probably situations in which the difference in negligible, so give it a try.

BTW I don't hold some of the home theatre gurus (usually, the journalists in the rags most of us read) in particularly high esteem. But that's another story for another post...
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Old 06-09-2008, 10:16 PM   #17
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With the plates in place, he can connect to either, and won't be able to notice a difference regardless of what ones he connects to..... if he does, I chalk it up the the Placebo affect......
Well I don't know about his ears nor do i know if klipsch speakers can resolve the difference but i have very good ears and my JM Labs are certainly different from one set of posts to the other. One set is wired to the tweeters the other to the woofers, there has to be a difference.

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