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cam555 · 06-24-2008, 04:43 AM

I was just wondering if i should get a turntable or not. do vinyls have superior audio quality over cd's....or not really? if so i would get one. please help.

RandDawg · 06-24-2008, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cam555

I was just wondering if i should get a turntable or not. do vinyls have superior audio quality over cd's....or not really? if so i would get one. please help.

It's better than cds, but I don't know if it is better than SACD or DVD-A

spotnick · 06-24-2008, 06:32 AM

I think it sounds better if it was recorded on an analog device, but it sounds worse than a cd if it was recorded digitally and then transferred to an analog device

cam555 · 06-24-2008, 06:56 AM

i was just wondering if old metallica lp's would sound good. lp's are making a big comeback from what i've been hearing.

spotnick · 06-24-2008, 07:08 AM

Most likely, yes.

ThePhantomOak · 06-24-2008, 07:18 AM

They are prone to damage and then they are not better than a Tape or MP3.

If you treat them right they can be better, but the turntable would have to not be suck. I would think what the make now are better than what there was 40 years ago though.

There is a reason people still buy them.

hanser · 06-24-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RandDawg

It's better than cds, but I don't know if it is better than SACD or DVD-A

They sound NOT better than CDs if you use a high quality DAC. They sound DIFFERENT, yes: smoother, silkier, perhaps more pleasing to the ear. But they achieve this by altering the original sound. CDs represent a more accurate (albeit still slightly flawed due to the resolution limit fo 16bit, 44 kHz) representation of the original recording sound, vinyl sugarcoates the sound by adding harmonic distortion, limiting dynamic range, high frequency roll-off etc.

It is a matter of personal taste, what you prefer. I know, there are many people who can´t stand CD sound, but I suspect they never tried a high quality DAC. By the way, I am a SACD fan myself, but well recorded CDs can still sound very good via my AQVOX DAC.

Rapstah · 06-24-2008, 09:57 AM

There are hundreds of great things you can do with turntables apart from just listening to the songs.

bhampton · 06-24-2008, 11:56 AM

Quote "There are hundreds of great things you can do with turntables apart from just listening to the songs."

Do they work for pottery stuff. I want to re-enact that scene from Ghost with Demi Moore but either way she hasn't called me back so it might not matter.

I would think turn tables are worth the trouble but not for me. If something can be worried about I tend to worry about it

(working on reversing that) and I would always be concerned about damage to the records. When I listened to them ... I would be listening to try to detect any damage. So,.. it's not for me.

Plus I believe that slogan "If the PS3 can't do it, Maybe it shouldn't be done." So,.. when they make a USB turn-table for use with the PS3... I'll give it another chance.

-Brian

Beta Man · 06-24-2008, 12:35 PM

I love Vinyl, but again, it's personal taste. I love old Beatles albums, they sound better than any SA CD/ CD could ever sound.

My_Two_Cents · 06-24-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cam555

i was just wondering if old metallica lp's would sound good. lp's are making a big comeback from what i've been hearing.

Mikeblu · 06-24-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bhampton

Quote "There are hundreds of great things you can do with turntables apart from just listening to the songs."

Do they work for pottery stuff. I want to re-enact that scene from Ghost with Demi Moore but either way she hasn't called me back so it might not matter.

I would think turn tables are worth the trouble but not for me. If something can be worried about I tend to worry about it

(working on reversing that) and I would always be concerned about damage to the records. When I listened to them ... I would be listening to try to detect any damage. So,.. it's not for me.

Plus I believe that slogan "If the PS3 can't do it, Maybe it shouldn't be done." So,.. when they make a USB turn-table for use with the PS3... I'll give it another chance.

-Brian

yer but a PS3 cant display images, the PSP can, but with the PS3 you'll be watching a BD film on no TV, also theres no power built into the PS3 so power plants shouldn't be built, I think you wasnt thinking while saying that.

EDIT: sorry about speeling ect, I'm using a cr@p keyboard
EDIT 2: yer speeling

Beta Man · 06-24-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeblu

yer but a PS3 cant display images, the PSP can, but with the PS3 you'll be watching a BD film on no TV, also theres no power built into the PS3 so power plants shouldn't be built, I think you wasnt thinking while saying that.

EDIT: sorry about speeling ect, I'm using a cr@p keyboard
EDIT 2: yer speeling

I don't think it's your keyboard.......

bhampton · 06-24-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote "yer but a PS3 cant display images, the PSP can, but with the PS3 you'll be watching a BD film on no TV, also theres no power built into the PS3 so power plants shouldn't be built, I think you wasnt thinking while saying that."

Um... well ok.

-Brian

Mikeblu · 06-24-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

I don't think it's your keyboard.......

it ignore some letters and adds other ones
EDIT: see ignores

Beta Man · 06-24-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeblu

it ignore some letters and adds other ones
EDIT: see ignores

yikes.... I'd consider a new one.... if it's not a Laptop, they're dirt cheap.... if it is a laptop, get an external one!

Mikeblu · 06-24-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

yikes.... I'd consider a new one.... if it's not a Laptop, they're dirt cheap.... if it is a laptop, get an external one!

this isn't my computer

Psychonaut · 06-24-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cam555

i was just wondering if old metallica lp's would sound good. lp's are making a big comeback from what i've been hearing.

I have them all and they sound great.

allstar780 · 06-24-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePhantomOak

They are prone to damage and then they are not better than a Tape or MP3.

If you treat them right they can be better, but the turntable would have to not be suck. I would think what the make now are better than what there was 40 years ago though.

There is a reason people still buy them.

oh god... anything is better than tape!!!

zoon_ii · 06-24-2008, 06:18 PM

vinyl is better than cassette, but it is NOT better than CD.

vinyl still can't capture the entire frequency range of what a cd can, a cd just sounds cleaner is all.

what the "warmth" feeling comes from on a vinyl record playing session is the actual friction generated by the needle pressing against the groove, and the grooves themselves are not perfect either. the needle doesn't set perfect in the groove so there's always going to be some friction. however, it's because of this flaw that vinyl has a more organic sound to it, even with the nicks and pops.

SACD is probably the best of all, but again, i can't say for sure because i've never demoed a SACD on a true audiophile sound system. however, vinyl is so much more than just audio quality:

1: there the cover art, which is much easier to appreciate due to it's large inherent nature.

2: the vinyl art. some record companies do some really unique pressings.

3: the actual feel of handling the music before you set it on the platter.

4: the visual of actually being able to see the needle progress to the next song and know where the music is, perhaps even where the trebles cut out.

etc.

listening to vinyl is definitely different than just popping in a cd, because people who listen to vinyl are (i'm betting) the type of people who will actually sit in a chair with a nice quaulity pair of headphones or in front of some good speakers, and actually listen to the music, rather than having the record on as background noise while one surfs the net or does house chores.

and yes. i do own 2 turntables, and have over 1000 LP's

06-24-2008, 04:43 AM	#1
cam555 Active Member Top contributor Member since:May 2007	Turntables worth it? I was just wondering if i should get a turntable or not. do vinyls have superior audio quality over cd's....or not really? if so i would get one. please help.

06-24-2008, 11:56 AM	#9
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Quote "There are hundreds of great things you can do with turntables apart from just listening to the songs." Do they work for pottery stuff. I want to re-enact that scene from Ghost with Demi Moore but either way she hasn't called me back so it might not matter. I would think turn tables are worth the trouble but not for me. If something can be worried about I tend to worry about it (working on reversing that) and I would always be concerned about damage to the records. When I listened to them ... I would be listening to try to detect any damage. So,.. it's not for me. Plus I believe that slogan "If the PS3 can't do it, Maybe it shouldn't be done." So,.. when they make a USB turn-table for use with the PS3... I'll give it another chance. -Brian Last edited by bhampton; 06-24-2008 at 12:00 PM.

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06-24-2008, 06:32 AM	#3
spotnick Active Member Member since:May 2008 Trading Score:1	I think it sounds better if it was recorded on an analog device, but it sounds worse than a cd if it was recorded digitally and then transferred to an analog device

06-24-2008, 06:56 AM	#4
cam555 Active Member Top contributor Member since:May 2007	i was just wondering if old metallica lp's would sound good. lp's are making a big comeback from what i've been hearing.

06-24-2008, 07:08 AM	#5
spotnick Active Member Member since:May 2008 Trading Score:1	Most likely, yes.

06-24-2008, 07:18 AM	#6
ThePhantomOak Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Reno, NEVADA. "Battle Born"	They are prone to damage and then they are not better than a Tape or MP3. If you treat them right they can be better, but the turntable would have to not be suck. I would think what the make now are better than what there was 40 years ago though. There is a reason people still buy them.

06-24-2008, 09:57 AM	#8
Rapstah Active Member Member since:Mar 2008	There are hundreds of great things you can do with turntables apart from just listening to the songs.

06-24-2008, 12:35 PM	#10
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	I love Vinyl, but again, it's personal taste. I love old Beatles albums, they sound better than any SA CD/ CD could ever sound.

06-24-2008, 04:28 PM	#14
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Quote "yer but a PS3 cant display images, the PSP can, but with the PS3 you'll be watching a BD film on no TV, also theres no power built into the PS3 so power plants shouldn't be built, I think you wasnt thinking while saying that." Um... well ok. -Brian

06-24-2008, 06:18 PM	#20
zoon_ii Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:St. Louis, MO Home Theater Gallery:8	vinyl is better than cassette, but it is NOT better than CD. vinyl still can't capture the entire frequency range of what a cd can, a cd just sounds cleaner is all. what the "warmth" feeling comes from on a vinyl record playing session is the actual friction generated by the needle pressing against the groove, and the grooves themselves are not perfect either. the needle doesn't set perfect in the groove so there's always going to be some friction. however, it's because of this flaw that vinyl has a more organic sound to it, even with the nicks and pops. SACD is probably the best of all, but again, i can't say for sure because i've never demoed a SACD on a true audiophile sound system. however, vinyl is so much more than just audio quality: 1: there the cover art, which is much easier to appreciate due to it's large inherent nature. 2: the vinyl art. some record companies do some really unique pressings. 3: the actual feel of handling the music before you set it on the platter. 4: the visual of actually being able to see the needle progress to the next song and know where the music is, perhaps even where the trebles cut out. etc. listening to vinyl is definitely different than just popping in a cd, because people who listen to vinyl are (i'm betting) the type of people who will actually sit in a chair with a nice quaulity pair of headphones or in front of some good speakers, and actually listen to the music, rather than having the record on as background noise while one surfs the net or does house chores. and yes. i do own 2 turntables, and have over 1000 LP's

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