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Old 06-27-2008, 11:56 AM   #1
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Default is there a way to get mp3s etc to expand to surround on PS3?

My receiver expands stereo sources (like TV or some DVDs) to 5.0 surround just fine and each of my speakers is just fine. Everything's fine.

However, when I play MP3s (or AACs etc) they just get played in stereo for some reason. I have it hooked up via HDMI and none of the enhanced surround options on my receiver Dolby Pro Logic II etc. does anything. It seems like the PS3 when outputing MP3s is outputing them in 7.1 LPCM with 2 channels containing music and the rest just silent.

Anyway, is this normal? Anyway around it? Is there a firmware update coming to allow us to enjoy expanding MP3s to surround audio?

Please help. ty
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:08 PM   #2
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+1000 I've asked this a few times, does anyone have definitive answer? PLEASE!
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:24 PM   #3
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I was actually looking for an answer to this question myself, if anyone can give an definitive answer, please do !
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:35 PM   #4
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It must be your recievers, mine has an option called 5 channel stereo and it plays on all 5 speakers. I just have a Yamaha HTIB, so nothing special.
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:35 PM   #5
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It worked fine on my old receiver using an optical cable. I may just have to hook up the optical cable and switch back and forth when I change from playing a BD to MP3.
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:36 PM   #6
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It must be your recievers, mine has an option called 5 channel stereo and it plays on all 5 speakers. I just have a Yamaha HTIB, so nothing special.
Do you have it hooked up with HDMI (for the audio, that is) or something else? (I have a similar option on my receiver but it still doesn't work ... again it works fine for everyting else, including stereo DVDs on the PS3)
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It helps to have reading comprehension skills I guess. I'm just using optical now, and streaming mp3's from my pc.
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Old 06-27-2008, 06:46 PM   #8
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It must be your recievers, mine has an option called 5 channel stereo and it plays on all 5 speakers. I just have a Yamaha HTIB, so nothing special.
Nice, i just went through all of my receivers options and yep, all channel stereo. Works nicely.

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It helps to have reading comprehension skills I guess. I'm just using optical now, and streaming mp3's from my pc.
Didn't understand this.
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Old 06-27-2008, 06:52 PM   #9
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Nice, i just went through all of my receivers options and yep, all channel stereo. Works nicely.



Didn't understand this.
Are you using HDMI to output audio or some other kind of cable? I can get it to work with other kinds of cable, just not with HDMI. When using HDMI and playing MP3s the PS3 seems to want to output at 7.1 LPCM @48khz no matter what. So, my receiver can't do any "all channel stereo" or any other kind of expansion or duplication of stereo because it's not being received from the PS3 as stereo but rather as 7 channels, albeit 5 of them silent. Again my receiver has all the options yours does. And these options work just fine when playing the MP3s from my PC.
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Old 06-27-2008, 06:55 PM   #10
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Are you using HDMI to output audio or some other kind of cable? I can get it to work with other kinds of cable, just not with HDMI. When using HDMI and playing MP3s the PS3 seems to want to output at 7.1 LPCM @48khz no matter what. So, my receiver can't do any "all channel stereo" or any other kind of expansion or duplication of stereo because it's not being received from the PS3 as stereo but rather as 7 channels, albeit 5 of them silent. Again my receiver has all the options yours does. And these options work just fine when playing the MP3s from my PC.
yeah mate HDMI. What receiver do you have?

Also, might be worth checking your PS3 settings in the audio bit, make sure that you have the 5.1 options ticked.
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:04 PM   #11
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yeah mate HDMI. What receiver do you have?

Also, might be worth checking your PS3 settings in the audio bit, make sure that you have the 5.1 options ticked.
On my PS3 it's not possible to UNtick the 5.1 option (nor the 7.1 option for that matter). It's greyed out. I have the new Sony STR DG820

Again for other stereo sources on the PS3, it expands to surround just fine. And for stereo sources coming from my PC (also being output in PCM), it expands to surround just fine. It's only when doing MP3s on the PS3 that there's a problem.

When you say HDMI, you mean you use HDMI for the audio right, not merely for the video? Just making sure.
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:17 PM   #12
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Well, it looks like we're stuck

http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...ead.id=2890979

We can only hope for a firmware update. In the meantime, I'll be acquiring another optical cable and just switching to optical audio output when playing non-BD/non-DVD music/video files.
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:25 PM   #13
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On my PS3 it's not possible to UNtick the 5.1 option (nor the 7.1 option for that matter). It's greyed out. I have the new Sony STR DG820

Again for other stereo sources on the PS3, it expands to surround just fine. And for stereo sources coming from my PC (also being output in PCM), it expands to surround just fine. It's only when doing MP3s on the PS3 that there's a problem.

When you say HDMI, you mean you use HDMI for the audio right, not merely for the video? Just making sure.
Yeah audio and Video Have a look on page 57 of the manual http://www.docs.sony.com/release/STRDG820_EN.pdf

EDIT: Easier if i post it.

Press AMP MENU.

2 Press V/v repeatedly to select
“SURROUND”, then press
or b
.
3 Press V/v repeatedly to select
“E.SUR MODE” then press
or b.

4 Press V/v repeatedly to select
the enhanced surround mode
you want, then press or b.

5 Press MENU/HOME or AMP
MENU to exit the menu.

6 Press A.F.D. repeatedly to
select “E. SURROUND”.
The enhanced surround mode you have
selected in “E.SUR MODE” menu will be
applied.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:14 PM   #14
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Yeah audio and Video Have a look on page 57 of the manual http://www.docs.sony.com/release/STRDG820_EN.pdf

EDIT: Easier if i post it.

Press AMP MENU.

2 Press V/v repeatedly to select
“SURROUND”, then press
or b
.
3 Press V/v repeatedly to select
“E.SUR MODE” then press
or b.

4 Press V/v repeatedly to select
the enhanced surround mode
you want, then press or b.

5 Press MENU/HOME or AMP
MENU to exit the menu.

6 Press A.F.D. repeatedly to
select “E. SURROUND”.
The enhanced surround mode you have
selected in “E.SUR MODE” menu will be
applied.
Thnx but I have it all set up that way already. It's an issue with the PS3. It outputs MP3s (over HDMI) not as stereo but as 7.1 (with 5 channels silent) and my receiver thinks it is receiving a surround source and so it doesn't do any enhanced surround on it. Again, my receiver expands stereo stuff on the PS3, on the PC just fine for everything else. I have no idea why it's working on your system, but not on mine.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:23 PM   #15
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I think you jhave to go into audio options on ps3 & uncheck everything but the 5.1 & 7.1 options
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:49 PM   #16
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I think you jhave to go into audio options on ps3 & uncheck everything but the 5.1 & 7.1 options
it doesn't let me do it. When I have it hooked up with HDMI and select HDMI audio output on the PS3, it automatically checks various lower sample frequency (44.1 and 48) for 2, 5 and 7 channel audio ... the only thing I can change is checking or unchecking the options for 96 frequency or 192 frequency and the like. These auto-checked options are greyed out.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:52 PM   #17
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I hope there is a work-around for this. I was planning on getting the Onkyo 606 or 805 - I currently listen to all my music (mp3's on the hard-drive or steaming) and always listen to my music in surround - using optical.

I plan on going through HDMI for my video and audio and that would suck if my music can only be played in stereo.

I hope this isn't true and there is a way around this one.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:59 PM   #18
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On my ps3 the only 2 boxes checked in sound settings are linear pcm 2 ch 44.1 khz & 48 khz. I have sound coming from all 7 speakers playing mp3. I just checked
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:07 PM   #19
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On my ps3 the only 2 boxes checked in sound settings are linear pcm 2 ch 44.1 khz & 48 khz. I have sound coming from all 7 speakers playing mp3. I just checked
Do you have your PS3 outputing audio through HDMI or through some other cable? It worked fine for me on optical. Just switching to HDMI screwed it up (for stereo DVDs though it works fine on the PS3)

I think I'll just buy another optical cable. Doesn't take too long to switch audio output in the PS3.
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:09 PM   #20
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