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Old 10-05-2014, 12:38 PM   #1
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Since it appears that talking about this sync issue in other threads get immediately deleted, I figured it's probably best to just start a new thread...also just noticed I spelled "sync" wrong in the title...whoops
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:44 PM   #2
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Is it prevalent on 15 disc and 10 disc sets?
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:49 PM   #3
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It's also on prior Blu ray AND DVD releases but for some reason now is the time they want to start asking for refunds. Doesn't it even mention it on the Halloween 4 cover? Does it not mention something about archival materials not being perfect? Everyone knew this going in that it was just the same disc as the previous blu ray release.
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:13 PM   #4
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I have both the new disc in the 15 disc set and the old disc from 2012.

The new disc has the sync issue, but, my old 2012 Blu does not.

So, Crazybeats... you are wrong yet again. Though I expect nothing less from you. And why the racism against Americans on an American site? Maybe you'd feel better using a different site where you would feel more at home.

Some of the sync issues on the 2014 disc (the new one) are severe. Scenes are the police station, etc. are way out of sync. I'm using a Sony Blu ray player -- not PS3.

So... no, this is not on both discs. My 2012 disc plays perfectly fine. The 2014 disc has major issues.
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:39 PM   #5
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It's also on prior Blu ray AND DVD releases but for some reason now is the time they want to start asking for refunds. Doesn't it even mention it on the Halloween 4 cover? Does it not mention something about archival materials not being perfect? Everyone knew this going in that it was just the same disc as the previous blu ray release.
The previous version didn't have this problem. If so can you post some clips.
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:48 PM   #6
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Is it prevalent on 15 disc and 10 disc sets?
While I don't have the 10-disc set, I would assume the issue affects both sets, as the disc was, most likely, replicated from the same source.
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:51 PM   #7
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While I don't have the 10-disc set, I would assume the issue affects both sets, as the disc was, most likely, replicated from the same source.
You're probably right but it would be great it someone that owns the 10-disc set chimed in.
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:03 PM   #8
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You're probably right but it would be great it someone that owns the 10-disc set chimed in.
I ordered it and can chime in in a couple days if no one else does.
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:16 PM   #9
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The mods objection to the talk about the sync issue was that it was derailing the conversation (I'm still kinda fuzzy on that logic, but whatever)
Anyone paying attention to the thread knows it wasn't about the sync issue. The problem was all of the talk about conning Amazon out of partial refunds.
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:22 PM   #10
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I ordered it and can chime in in a couple days if no one else does.
Cool! I was going to get the 15 disc set but now I'm rethinking things. I really only want 4 discs out of the entire set. The 35th anniversary edition with the original mono track, H20 in 1080P with OAR and extras, The Producers cut of Halloween 6 and the bonus disc of extras. I don't have Halloween 3, 4 or 5 on Blu-ray so that's also a nice bonus for me. Perhaps I'll get the 10 disc set if it drops super cheap (perhaps around black Friday) and pick up the Producers cut of 6 when it's available as a separate release. I'll miss out on the bonus disc but oh well. It all depends on how much the 15 disc set drops in price over the coming months. Also, it might be worth my while to wait and see if AB sorts out the sync issue with Halloween 4.

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Old 10-05-2014, 02:24 PM   #11
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I remember the first Blu-ray of Gladiator having a medicore transfer and a lot of folks weren't happy with it and fortunately they were granted the opportunity to send their discs to the studio in exchange for a newly remastered disc. Could Arrow not do the same thing here? Do a new H4 disc, correcting the sync issue and send it out to everybody who received the sets?
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:33 PM   #12
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I remember the first Blu-ray of Gladiator having a medicore transfer and a lot of folks weren't happy with it and fortunately they were granted the opportunity to send their discs to the studio in exchange for a newly remastered disc. Could Arrow not do the same thing here? Do a new H4 disc, correcting the sync issue and send it out to everybody who received the sets?
A nice gesture on AB's part would be to repress Halloween 4 on a 50GB disc. Put the writer's commentary back in that was missing on both Blu-ray versions and also put back the discussion panel that is missing from the new sets. That would make a lot of people happy.
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:35 PM   #13
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MOD NOTE: Stay on topic or this will be closed. Already unapproved 4 posts. Showing a little maturity would go a long way.
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:40 PM   #14
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A nice gesture on AB's part would be to repress Halloween 4 on a 50GB disc. Put the writer's commentary back in that was missing on both Blu-ray versions and also put back the discussion panel that is missing from the new sets. That would make a lot of people happy.
Yeah, that would be sweet. Could we not start a petition/request to get arrow to send out a replacement disc?
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:45 PM   #15
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A nice gesture on AB's part would be to repress Halloween 4 on a 50GB disc. Put the writer's commentary back in that was missing on both Blu-ray versions and also put back the discussion panel that is missing from the new sets. That would make a lot of people happy.
A new HD scan to go along with the corrected audio would be awesome too. Any other word from Anchor Bay about replacements?
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It's also on prior Blu ray AND DVD releases but for some reason now is the time they want to start asking for refunds. Doesn't it even mention it on the Halloween 4 cover? Does it not mention something about archival materials not being perfect? Everyone knew this going in that it was just the same disc as the previous blu ray release.
I bought the original disc last year and watched it twice before I got rid of it in anticipation for the new set and did not have any sync issues. I am always aware of these when they happen and it never happened. This one is just bad, really bad. In fact, it is down right unacceptable and Anchor Bay needs to offer a statement this week.

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Old 10-05-2014, 02:49 PM   #17
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A nice gesture on AB's part would be to repress Halloween 4 on a 50GB disc. Put the writer's commentary back in that was missing on both Blu-ray versions and also put back the discussion panel that is missing from the new sets. That would make a lot of people happy.
Here is the weird thing about the new disc created for the box sets. And yes, its on both sets because both sets include the same new disc...

The discussion panel is on the disc, Anchor Bay simply redid the menu to remove the option to choose it. AB & Scream for some reason were unable to clear it for inclusion in the sets.

There is a way to access the panel on a BD-ROM and mayhaps certain BD players if you can choose a specific title.

Now, Anchor Bay is working on a replacement program. It just took a lot of complaints after they not only ignored consumers, they brushed off Scream who was getting the brunt of these notices. Its not yet known what Anchor Bay will do... I'm hoping the long delay in response means Anchor Bay & Scream are working to clear that supplement now.

If they can clear it, they can simply send us the 2012 disc with matching art, wait. It's Anchor Bay, they can send us the 2012 disc. Or as you mentioned, create a new disc and clear that commentary for this set too. It would certainly appease many fans upset about this error.

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Old 10-05-2014, 02:58 PM   #18
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A new HD scan to go along with the corrected audio would be awesome too. Any other word from Anchor Bay about replacements?
That would be great but AB seems to just want the problem to go away. Other companies have stepped up to the plate when delivering less then stellar transfers. TCM released The Lady From Shanghai originally on a 25GB disc with lossy audio and missing extras. A few months later they re-released the title with a new HD transfer on a 50GB disc, lossless audio and added the promised extras. The new pressing was a bit controversial as some thought it was "too dark" but I thought it was a vast improvement. The point being, if TCM can repress a disc, so can AB.
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That would be great but AB seems to just want the problem to go away. Other companies have stepped up to the plate when delivering less then stellar transfers. TCM released The Lady From Shanghai originally on a 25GB disc with lossy audio and missing extras. A few months later they re-released the title with a new HD transfer on a 50GB disc, lossless audio and added the promised extras. The new pressing was a bit controversial as some thought it was "too dark" but I thought it was a vast improvement. The point being, if TCM can repress a disc, so can AB.
Wait, The Lady from Shanghai is available on BD? That is on my list of Film Noirs to see and when I went on Amazon back in June that one only showed up on DVD.

Anyway, yes, AB needs to give us a new disc.
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Wait, The Lady from Shanghai is available on BD? That is on my list of Film Noirs to see and when I went on Amazon back in June that one only showed up on DVD.

Anyway, yes, AB needs to give us a new disc.
It's a TCM exclusive only available via their website.

http://classic-movies.tcm.com/dvd/Th...ghai%20Blu-ray
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