Nightbreed: The Director's Cut (1990) (Limited Edition - SOLD OUT)

[BHolst]

Originally Posted by PuppetMasterBlu

Then you need to contact someone higher up because they are breaking their own policy. Up to 7 days after delivery is their policy.

Do you have a link to this policy? Or a mail or other communication from Amazon where this is mentioned?
I like to have something a bit more tangible than something read in a forum thread when I contact Amazon...

[Randall Flagg]

Originally Posted by billyearle

Sounds like I was misinformed. Somewhere I had gotten the impression there were gray-market DVDs floating around places like ebay. I hadn't looked into it though.
I'm happy with the Directors cut and feel it's pretty close to definitive. Even if the Cabal cut was available I wouldn't pay too much for it.

You can barely see anything in it the quality is so bad.

[the_hudge]

Originally Posted by BluDenny

Yep, got mine today as well......#5,892!

Now, I'm wondering if I should keep my original Amazon.ca order, or cancel, seeing that I could always sell the other copy if it ever comes through sometime this century!

I figure I'm going to hang on to my Amazon.ca order for the time being. If somehow they do come through (I really, really doubt it) then I will give my extra copy to my brother for Christmas as he has given up on getting one.

[art123guy]

Originally Posted by PuppetMasterBlu

Yes but that is completely up to the rep in that case, there is no policy for that long. You might get ahold of a nice rep or one that refuses to do it, all depends.

If that's the case, re-buy it at the cheaper price and return the expensive one. My October order is returnable until Dec. 4. If they need a reason for the return, make one up. "I bought it for a friend and he already had it." always works well.

If rep you talk to won't five the refund, try calling a day later. Maybe they'll give you the refund.

Granted, mine was not opened. Had I opened it and if they wouldn't refund the difference, I still would have bought the cheaper one and returned it saying it was the more expensive one.

Maybe this makes a difference, I used the online customer help instead of calling.

[Herry Dunston]

Got my amazon package, in a cardboard BOX to my fortune. There are slight dents in nearly all the edges, but there are no tears, so it's in much better shape than the previous one; I call this a guaranteed keeper. Time to return the other copy back to DeepDiscount.

Goodbye, #8,101; Hello, #9,140!

[SilentDawn]

Hey everyone,

Can anyone tell me what this film is even like? Everyone is going nuts over this special edition (which looks really cool), but I haven't even heard of the film until this was announced. Is it comedic? Scary? Unique? I guess I just have to watch it.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by SilentDawn

Hey everyone,

Can anyone tell me what this film is even like? Everyone is going nuts over this special edition (which looks really cool), but I haven't even heard of the film until this was announced. Is it comedic? Scary? Unique? I guess I just have to watch it.

I suppose it's a fantasy more than anything else, neither comedic nor outright scary. It's a film in which the monsters are portrayed as the good guys (one of those 'the humans are the real monsters' stories), something which the studio weren't overly fond with and it resulted in their attempt to turn it into more of a slasher film. There are some scenes typical of a slasher, but for the most part, the focus is on the Nightbreed themselves and their activities underground.

I guess the reason everybody's so excited about this release, whether they've seen it before or not, is because the footage was considered lost for two decades so people are happy that this cult film is finally being seen as Clive Barker intended.

[Herry Dunston]

Originally Posted by SilentDawn

Hey everyone,

Can anyone tell me what this film is even like? Everyone is going nuts over this special edition (which looks really cool), but I haven't even heard of the film until this was announced. Is it comedic? Scary? Unique? I guess I just have to watch it.

I just finished the Director's Cut shortly ago, and I can help you out.

This movie is basically Clive Barker trying to masquerade as Tim Burton (Beetlejuice guy) with the mentality of Sam Raimi (Evil Dead guy), and not completely succeeding with his ambitious plan. It has great-looking monsters and an entertaining action-packed third act, but even if this is the director's original vision, the story still feels spotty and incomplete in places. The main villain is one I call excellently-designed but poorly-characterized, and the whole 'humans are bastards' theme could've worked if it doesn't feel so exaggerated and myopic. And the ending has that "is that it?" feeling, and if this whole thing is the best that the director has to complete, I'm worried about what the theatrical cut's gonna be like.

It's a movie with great potential because of its mythology presented, but really, it's more of a film curiosity than a must-see movie. But that's my take. I say give it a online rental and see if this kind of movie appeals to you; don't jump into paying the set.

[billyearle]

Originally Posted by SilentDawn

Hey everyone,

Can anyone tell me what this film is even like? Everyone is going nuts over this special edition (which looks really cool), but I haven't even heard of the film until this was announced. Is it comedic? Scary? Unique? I guess I just have to watch it.

I think it's better than the review here makes it to be. It's hard to guess what people you don't know will like, so the safest thing would be rent the blu-ray of the Directors cut first. I think the film is pretty unique when taken as a whole, rather than dissecting it's elements...the total effect. Depending on where you are in your life, you may not respond to the pathos. I tend to really like a lot of "divisive" films, like Lifeforce and Suckerpunch, and I went into this with no expectations. With fantasy/horror films I tend to be pretty forgiving of a few flaws or holes (especially in a reconstructed film where not every little part survived) if the overall experience is worth it.
You could consider just buying the Directors cut. It's harder to say if the deluxe version is worth it. I felt the theatrical was just an interesting extra, though not as bad as it's made out to be. Fortunately, I really wound up loving the (directors cut) film, so I don't regret splurging for the box set.
EDIT: I've had a lot of films & music I later came to love ruined the first time around by listening to some guys negative comments dismissing it. I would try to defend the film specifically, but it would spoil some of it. If you like odd, unique films, and fantasy as well as horror, or have an interest in Clive Barker, this is at least a must-see.

[SilentDawn]

Thanks for the responses everyone, I'll definitely check it out soon.

[Herry Dunston]

Just watched the Theatrical Cut. Aside from the cliffhanger ending, it isn't THAT much different from the Director's Cut; just some additional inbetween bits for moments that were rushed or out of continuity. A few scenes were also rearranged in an attempt to cloak the real serial killer, which is admirable if it still wasn't a dead giveaway early on.

[Show spoiler]Plus, the guy who tore the skin out of his head isn't killed this version, which I personally prefer, because he's the one of two Nightbreed characters where there's more to him than a cool creature design

; unfortunately, the other Nightbreed with some semblance of character depth is the normal-lookin' lady who can turn to vapor. I wanted to know more about the other monsters; where the hell is the lady with the weird face that's shown in the poster?

Oh, and they made the priest evil for some reason, even though it's made incongruous for his actions during the third act. Not like the priest was given that much depth to him, as the aftermath for him made little sense to me either way. No silly concert act, which is another plus for this cut.

Maybe the 160-minute Cabal cut adds more characterization than what's showing in both versions, because [I]Nightbreed[I] as I saw it still feels underdeveloped. I appreciate it for standing the test of time by concept, but that's about it.

[KFelon]

Originally Posted by Herry Dunston

Just watched the Theatrical Cut. Aside from the cliffhanger ending, it isn't THAT much different from the Director's Cut; just some additional inbetween bits for moments that were rushed or out of continuity.

I've been a fan of Nightbreed for years and I have to agree. To me the Director's Cut is just more of the same only the story is fleshed out better. Sure there are a couple entire scenes here and there that are noticeably new, but to say it is as a whole a completely different movie isn't really true. We have a new ending, the love story is more pronounced, and we do get more monsters, but it's not a entirely new movie. Don't get me wrong, I think the director's cut is excellent and I enjoyed everything about it except for the horrible lip syncing which could have used a bit of trimming. Unless you are a completionist or you're dying for all of the deleted scenes, there isn't a huge necessity to own the more expensive limited edition.

Whoever said this is a wanna be Tim Burton movie is only saying that because of the Danny Elfman score. He would have scored Nightbreed around the same time he did Beetlejuice.

[Catastrophe]

SO....

Finally have my Nightbreed LE in my hands. I got super lucky as it made two trips and survived without even so much as a scratch.

I ordered it from Amazon.com and had it sent to my boyfriend who lives in the US, then he sent it to me. I received it this weekend.

I have #3917. Rather random number but whatevs.

[Herry Dunston]

Originally Posted by KFelon

Whoever said this is a wanna be Tim Burton movie is only saying that because of the Danny Elfman score. He would have scored Nightbreed around the same time he did Beetlejuice.

That would be me, and that Burton comment goes not just for the score, but for that uncanny whimsy within unpleasant environments that's only less apt as Nightbreed doesn't have that gothic German expressionist aesthetic to them.

I may not be part of the film's target audience---okay, scratch that, I AM its audience, but I don't think it completely works on its own---, but I for fans of the movie, this is quite a package.

[Bumblefeet]

I don't know about the Tim Burton influence, but I definitely got a Jim Henson vibe with the child creature Lori saves. Also, the Nightbreed is like an adult version of Fraggle Rock.

[Herry Dunston]

Also, the Nightbreed is like an adult version of Fraggle Rock

That's...pretty damn apt. And their version of Doc is a mass-murdering sociopath.


I heard that this film continues onward as a comic book series. On that note, if this was pitched as an original series for SyFy, I would not be against that idea. There's more story to tell going this route.

[pinballmaster]

Am I the only one who can't get the bonus disc to play on their Blu-Ray player?
I have a Sony BDP-S360 and it won't load. I got Shout Factory to send me a replacement disc, but it will only play on my PS4.

[RickWJ324]

Originally Posted by Herry Dunston

That's...pretty damn apt. And their version of Doc is a mass-murdering sociopath.


I heard that this film continues onward as a comic book series. On that note, if this was pitched as an original series for SyFy, I would not be against that idea. There's more story to tell going this route.

I had the comics back in the early 90's but honestly don't remember a thing about them (other than a few of the covers).

[nekromantik]

Anyone know why they decided to release directors cut instead of cabel cut? Instead of theatrical they should have added cabal cut in whatever form was screened in.

[The Peanut Monkey]

Because the Cabal Cut was just all the footage (good and bad) cobbled together with very little rhyme or reason; the pace and continuity suffered because of it, which was the number one criticism (alongside visual/audio quality). It was throwing everything including the kitchen sink and seeing what stuck. Here, we actually get Clive Barker himself trying to come up with the film he originally filmed and intended (as best as possible). With extra, removed footage still included separately I'm not sure why anybody would prefer the Cabal Cut out of the two, and having said cut on a different disc in its entirety seems a bit of a waste, to be honest. I'd much rather have the Theatrical, even if it's obsolete and will have little play time; it was what was originally shown and is still important, historically.