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[dyne]

Originally Posted by Stitches

You never had to blow on your nes cartridges in an attempt to make them work? (though the blowing isn't likely what fixed the problem)

He said NFS which I took as Nintendo Famicom System, which didn't have that problem. Only the NES did. Although he's in America so who knows.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by Stitches

You never had to blow on your nes cartridges in an attempt to make them work? (though the blowing isn't likely what fixed the problem)

Welllllllllllllll, yeah OK I'll give you that one

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by dyne

He said NFS which I took as Nintendo Famicom System, which didn't have that problem. Only the NES did. Although he's in America so who knows.

No it was an NES. Auto correct strikes again!

[Himmel]

From the article:

EB Games Australia. Writing on Facebook, the company announced the news and shared the image:


http://www.gamespot.com/articles/thi.../1100-6426050/

Eb Games Australia facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/EBGamesAus/...type=1&theater

[bkfountain]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Neo

I'm not sold on Nintendo making a dramatic comeback and working it's way between Sony and Microsoft.

Not going to happen....

Nintendo has been mismanaged for years. Everything from the cartridge (N64), mini-disc (Gamecube), Wii (Lack of HD or true surround sound) and finally the Wii U.

In roughly 4-7 years, I see Nintendo bowing out of the console market and going strictly to software development much like Sega did. They just cannot complete for the REAL gamers money. (No 3rd party development, etc, etc)

Mario will only get them so far.

they don't have to compete, just accept their niche corner of the market and stay profitable with cheap hardware. The wiiu is weak old tech, but still only costs $100 less than a ps4 due to the gamepad controller that most games don't even really use. It's awful as a primary console, but is an amazing secondary console just for the handful of exclusives they put out all year. Do everything else on a ps4/xb1 and just enjoy mario or smash bros on a wiiu.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by bkfountain

they don't have to compete, just accept their niche corner of the market and stay profitable with cheap hardware. The wiiu is weak old tech, but still only costs $100 less than a ps4 due to the gamepad controller that most games don't even really use. It's awful as a primary console, but is an amazing secondary console just for the handful of exclusives they put out all year. Do everything else on a ps4/xb1 and just enjoy mario or smash bros on a wiiu.

At first glance I agree with you. However right now I honestly have to say that the Wii-U IS my primary console in terms of how many hours I spend playing it compared to my PS4 and X1. If you took out the time I use my PS4/X1 for multimedia stuff like blu ray, Netflix, HBO GO, etc. Then the disparity becomes even larger.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by dyne

No moving parts though. Plus it was the first main generation with optical drives. I get what you're saying overall but in this case it's really not a fair argument.

Good point.

Though given their track record I honestly do not think it would have been an issue if they had used a CD-Rom drive. Plus none of their other disk-based Nintendo consoles since the N64 have had major issues.

I just think for all the flak that gamers give Nintendo, they forget to stop and think about all the things Nintendo does right and that are actually good for the industry. When it comes to quality control, in both their hardware and software, they simply have no equal.

[Derb]

Have you seen any console concepts?

[RayCRP]

It's not even confirmed to be a "home console" yet, just that it's a new platform based on a new concept. Iwata skirted the question when asked if it was hardware, and if it was the successor to the Wii U or 3DS.

http://www.thetanooki.com/2015/03/19...e-nx-so-early/

Based on that context, all we know is that it's a dedicated gaming platform. ...but so is Steam, is it not?

The NX platform is being designed with connectivity in mind that the Wii U and 3DS just aren't capable of. It's designed to employ a unified service that will not only be retrofitted to the Wii U and 3DS, but will be built-in to their smart device platform and future hardware.

Everything else is speculation at this point.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by RayCRP

Everything else is speculation at this point.

Exactly.

I'm just curious what their next console "could" look like.

[moviedude 2K15]

Originally Posted by Derb

Exactly.

I'm just curious what their next console "could" look like.

Me too man. If this is a more traditional console from Nintendo mark me down for buying a console on launch day!

[PenguinMaster]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

How new the tech is has nothing to do with build quality. It has to do with the quality of the components that are used to make it. In that case Nintendo simply doesn't cut corners. Besides that, even if we do consider your argument, you have to remember that the Wii U launched 2 years prior to the PS4 and X1. So for that time period the Wii U WAS pretty current in terms of performance. Your argument would only be valid if the Wii U launched simultaneously with the PS4 and X1.

First of all the Wii U launched 1 year prior to PS4 and X1, not 2 years. It also launched 6 years after Playstation 3 and 7 years after Xbox 360 yet is only marginally more powerful therefore it couldn't possibly be considered current at the time it launched.

Using cheaper components is important to keep price down when using more powerful hardware. The Wii U is using very basic and cheap technology, yet it launched for $300. They can easily afford to spend more on reliable parts when the system is released at such a huge mark-up. Playstation 4 launched at $400 and cost even more than that to make. If the system used more reliable hardware it would likely cost way more and that is bad for both Sony and consumers.

If you are fine with using an underpowered but reliable system then just stick with Xbox 360 & Playstation 3. You can upgrade to Playstation 4 in a few years when the slim is released.

[bkfountain]

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

Using cheaper components is important to keep price down when using more powerful hardware. The Wii U is using very basic and cheap technology, yet it launched for $300. They can easily afford to spend more on reliable parts when the system is released at such a huge mark-up. Playstation 4 launched at $400 and cost even more than that to make. If the system used more reliable hardware it would likely cost way more and that is bad for both Sony and consumers.

the wiiu isn't really marked up much, the gamepad controller is just literally half the cost of the entire thing.

[moviedude 2K15]

Originally Posted by bkfountain

the wiiu isn't really marked up much, the gamepad controller is just literally half the cost of the entire thing.

I agree, if there was no Wii U game pad and instead it was just a Wii U classic controller wit the machine that console would probably be $100 cheaper.

[PenguinMaster]

Originally Posted by bkfountain

the wiiu isn't really marked up much, the gamepad controller is just literally half the cost of the entire thing.

The gamepad being expensive is absurd with how terrible the screen quality is (and I'm not just talking about the resolution). If Nintendo is actually spending $100 or more to make each gamepad then that just tells me they are incompetent.

[Mavrick]

CNN Money got UMB TechInsights to tear down the Basic Wii U in 2013 and they estimated the Gamepad cost $79.25 in raw parts and $148.25 in raw parts for the console itself.

$228 in total with an MSRP of $300.

"That $228 total doesn't factor in the actual manufacturing process, pre-loading the OS, packaging, additional pack-in materials, shipping, and so on. Then you must consider that retailers make a profit off of markup, meaning the units are sold to them for less than MSRP. CNN even acknowledges that its estimate doesn't consider the up-front costs of R&D."

So there isn't really a huge mark up at all and Wii U is in fact the first Nintendo console to be sold at a loss at launch.

http://money.cnn.com/video/technolog...down.cnnmoney/

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

CNN Money got UMB TechInsights to tear down the Basic Wii U in 2013 and they estimated the Gamepad cost $79.25 in raw parts and $148.25 in raw parts for the console itself.

$228 in total with an MSRP of $300.

"That $228 total doesn't factor in the actual manufacturing process, pre-loading the OS, packaging, additional pack-in materials, shipping, and so on. Then you must consider that retailers make a profit off of markup, meaning the units are sold to them for less than MSRP. CNN even acknowledges that its estimate doesn't consider the up-front costs of R&D."

So there isn't really a huge mark up at all and Wii U is in fact the first Nintendo console to be sold at a loss at launch.

http://money.cnn.com/video/technolog...down.cnnmoney/

I guarantee you that gamepad was designed as a direct result of "tablet panic" because at the time experts all thought console gaming was being replaced by tablet and smart phone gaming.

[moviedude 2K15]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

I guarantee you that gamepad was designed as a direct result of "tablet panic" because at the time experts all thought console gaming was being replaced by tablet and smart phone gaming.

I'm sure it had a lot to do with it but I certainly wouldn't say that it was THE reason why Wii U had that type of controller. Either way I pretty much only want to game with a standard game controller. Almost certainly any console in the future that comes standard with a gimmicky controller or whatever won't be getting my money.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by moviedude 2K15

I'm sure it had a lot to do with it but I certainly wouldn't say that it was THE reason why Wii U had that type of controller. Either way I pretty much only want to game with a standard game controller. Almost certainly any console in the future that comes standard with a gimmicky controller or whatever won't be getting my money.

I think with the Wii U, Nintendo might have learned there lesson and go back to a normal controller and set top box this time around. At most we may still see motion controls but no more tablet like controllers.

[moviedude 2K15]

Originally Posted by detective392

I think with the Wii U, Nintendo might have learned there lesson and go back to a normal controller and set top box this time around. At most we may still see motion controls but no more tablet like controllers.

I'm sure hoping so. If they want to have something optional that you buy afterwards like Move or Kinect that's fine, but to have a forced way of playing a game is not what I want. Give me a default standard controller everyday of the week.