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Unfortunately, yes they can. In fact they could screw up the next 4 generations & still bank on their 2042 console as a savings grace.
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Thanks given by: | ArmyOfDarknessAW (04-15-2016), ChadFL (04-15-2016) |
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#1004 | |
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This is a Tier 4 rumor which means multiple sources.
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This sure is a shortsighted attitude. In any industry you don't get competition and competitive pricing until you have 3 or more choices. I for one do not want to be limited to what SONY and MS offer. I also like having a choice and having something different. |
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Even during the height of Sega's popularity, their net worth was but a fraction of what Nintendo's is right now. Sega left the hardware business because it had no other choice. They were facing bankruptcy and no longer had the financial means to suppport their console. Nintendo's situation is VASTLY different! Allow me to put this in perspective for you. Nintendo has a "war chest" of 10.5 BILLION in actual, liquid cash in the bank. They have enough cash to run a deficit of 257 million dollars for 38 straight years before it would run out. And that's just cash. That's not even factoring in the worth of their total assets. By comparison, they are in a MUCH better financial situation than Sony is, even with the success of the PS4. Even with the failure of the WiiU, Nintendo is making a boat load off the sale of the 3DS and their Amiibo toy line. Plus their newly formed mobile division will ensure yet another very lucrative revenue stream for the company, not to mention their partnership with Universal Studios that's going to add a Nintendo-themed area in their theme parks and movie/TV licensing. So even if Nintendo's home consoles aren't their biggest money maker, they have plenty of other revenue streams to subsidize it (just like Microsoft does with their Xbox division, which has never really made them a lot of money either). Nintendo has made it very clear that they are firmly committed to the home console business and have absolutely no interest in becoming a 3rd party developer. Nintendo is a toy and games company. This is ALL they do! So can we PLEASE end the "Sega" discussion when it comes to Nintendo? It really is asinine at this point. Last edited by Steelmaker; 04-16-2016 at 03:02 AM. |
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#1006 |
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Is it too much to hope that all the people who want to play Nintendo 1st party titles would buy their consoles? Maybe then they'd get the 3rd party support that everyone uses the lack of as an excuse not to buy the system.
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Heh, Nintendo could release flop after flop after flop and still have enough cash in the bank to release another 20 flops and still not be in trouble.
Nintendo is 127 years old this year, they won't be going anywhere for a very long time. We'll probably be long dead before they have any trouble like that. No matter how bad their home console scene gets the Handheld market will be more than enough to keep there profits flowing. |
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Another day another round of RUMOURS. Same guy as the previous lot from gaf. Salt at the ready:
Like last time, I'm using the tiered rumors where a T1 means one source told me, T2 means two, Tier 3 means 3, and Tier 4 means four or more (there are no T4 this time). I will reiterate this, I am not the source of any of this information. I am simply passing along what I heard. It should all be taken with a grain of salt and not be taken as gospel. Don't cry and flame me if by June none of this is true. Nirolak told me to contextualize the rumors and was a fan of the tiered system, so I did it. Please read it through and enjoy. Feel free to debate it, get mad at it, get hyped by it or whatever, just know things like these can change at any time and may never come to fruition exactly how it's worded. T3 Rumors The NX gimmick. I uh....was told not to post this part by some people. As usual, take it with a grain of salt (although I don't know why I would be warned if it was false) I'm not under any NDA though, and well, it could end up being false. But I was told a variation of this by three different sources. I don't believe they have a reason to lie to me. Here goes.... The NX is going to have a screen controller (whether it's optional or standard I don't know) and can be used anywhere to play your home console games. The controller itself will not have any processing capabilities, it'll essentially be a dummy vita. It'll likely have basic OS functions to access the NX console from anywhere, like a tiny cpu. Nintendo will use enhanced Wii U gamepad streaming tech, and allow the controller to be taken anywhere, connect to the NX console at home (likely through Wi-fi or personal hotspots and the NX console will likely have to be in stand-by mode). Basically, it's remote play built into the box and won't require a $200 add-on to experience it. This is likely what Kimishima meant in his interview with Sankei (http://www.sankei.com/west/news/1601...030012-n1.html) "different way to play with a dedicated machine" and the whole "new way to experience games" mantra that's been going around Nintendo PR. Speculation: Nintendo could also sell personal hotspot usb adapters to get internet anywhere and plug either directly into the controller or a wall outlet to not drain the controller battery. The Supplementary Computing Devices may actually be portable hotspot devices with chips in it to boost the quality of the stream. (Maybe the NX will be called the Stream, a speculated final name during the WUST's). Note: This does not mean there will not be a handheld. This isn't meant to be a replacement for the handheld as there will still be limitations and the controller won't have a full OS or the capability for physical game media (discs or cartridges). The needs of a handheld won't be fully met with this feature. It's just a nice add-on. T2 Rumors Luigi's Mansion 3 is in development for NX. This rumor gained popularity awhile ago from Geno but this isn't my source. This was a T1 to start but today I got another source to give some info on it. Two different sources have told me that it is in development for NX, and one source said it's being developed by Next Level Games, who is big enough to do this and Federation Force at the same time. One source said it started as a Wii U game but after the disappointing performance of the Wii U and the scheduled release date for the game being late in the console's cycle, Nintendo decided to switch development over to NX. (basically the same situation as Zelda for Wii U, but no word on if this game will also get a Wii U version). The other source said it's a pretty big deal (he didn't elaborate if he meant Nintendo is making it a big deal or his workplace is). To support this, http://www.nintendolife.com/news/201...edits_the_post an employee stealth edited his post last year. T1 Rumors The NX will use a custom Polaris-like GPU. Likely will be on a FinFET 14nm fabrication node. The source told me it's on the same architecture with heavy customizations of course . It will contain the feature set of Polaris. It is "marginally better than the PS4" and theoretically could be "2x the power of PS4 GPU". I asked about PS4K being rumored to have a gpu 2x as powerful as the OG PS4 and how the theoretical performance of the NX would be and was told "Theoretically it could be close to the PS4K rumored specs". Of course, we know nothing of Polaris or the PS4K specs, but he gave that metric. I'm going to paraphrase here, but one comment from a source about the power of NX was that "Dev's could port over a PS4 game easily and have power to spare. Even the most demanding ones". My own theory is any game that dips below 30fps on PS4 will likely stay at 30fps on NX and maybe have some enhanced effects. One feature he highly touted, which improves performance greatly in games, especially graphically demanding ones such as AAA open world games is Primitive Discard Accelerator. A TechGAF member described it as Quote:
So 14nm is still likely in 2016 and Nintendo could still sell it at a reasonable price and not lose too much money or even break even. tl;dr The NX GPU is using features that are debuting on the Polaris chip, and is therefore heavily speculated to be a Polaris chip, as that would work well in a handheld too and help AMD prove they can make low wattage chips with good performance for small devices. (GCN 1.3, Vulkan, Primitive Discard Accelerator, etc) Nintendo is using Vulkan with NX. This goes hand in hand with using a Polaris-based GPU, and goes with the announcement of Nintendo joining Kronos. But the dev I spoke to about the GPU, who is porting a PS4 game to NX said Vulkan is not ready yet (as of the 2015 December SDK, should be an update in May) and they are using a variation of the PS4 API, GMNX, until Vulkan is ready. Nintendo providing some nice tools like GMNX to help devs port from PC, XBox and PS4 to NX. Most dev kits won't be given until Nintendo formally reveals the NX. As my previous post indicated, Nintendo is none too happy with the leaks and is keeping things on lockdown. Outside of close partners and internal teams, most devs are using SDK's until the NX reveal. Not a big deal, but I was told specs are pretty much final as of now, and the May update will likely be for the final spec sheet and not target specs. MercurySteam has a dev kit and is making an already announced game for the NX. The only announced game they have is Raiders of the Broken Planet, currently under development for PS4, XB1 and PC. This is likely it. (Take this one as a T0.5). Final Fantasy XV on NX. My single source on this said he's heard more of his sources mention it's coming to NX. No idea when. I pressed for FFVIIR but nobody has heard about it. Gaf's very own mod Kagari hinted that Sony may have co-funded it and it may never get released outside of PS4 and PC (like Street Fighter V). NX will likely launch at different times per region. Only heard this from one source but it does make sense if the NX does use 14nm chips, as there's a risk of not having enough of those chips ready on shelves for holiday 2016. No regions were specified, but one would assume with the slow adoption of consoles in Japan, and the popularity of handhelds over there, the NX will launch in the west first like some past Nintendo consoles (consoles are more popular outside of Japan). Likely North America and Europe. There are lots of NX games in development. Once source told me to post this so I won't edit it at all Quote:
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Thanks given by: | ChadFL (04-16-2016) |
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Here's my hope. The NX version will be called Luigi's Haunted Castle and the game will contain an absolute MASSIVE haunted gothic castle to run around in! |
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#1013 | |
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Though I can still see BC/VC happening. |
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#1014 | |
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VC with Wii and 3DS titles might be a reality though as I would think those could be achieved via software emulation. |
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#1015 | |
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#1016 | |
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You have to remember what Microsoft is doing is not actual backwards compatibility. What they're doing is detecting proof of purchase and then they're uploading entirely reprogrammed versions of those games. The 360 discs are used specifically for detection only . It's not actually using the data off the disks to run the games. Microsoft had no other choice but to show this type of good will after the debacle of the launch of the Xbox One. There's no profit to be made from this therefore there's no way Nintendo is going to waste their time on it in my opinion Last edited by Steelmaker; 04-16-2016 at 08:32 PM. |
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As for Microsoft it is not BC as in the sense it has the hardware for BC like in the past, but is still software BC just like Sony has. I am aware the disc is just for ownership purposes, but the games being played are still the same games. There is no reprogrammed version of the game being played. It is the same exact game just with a wrapper on it. The Xbox One is emulating the Xbox 360 as a whole and not on a per game basis. This is a quote from Phil Spenser. "You download a kind of manifest of wrapper for the 360 game, so we can say 'hey, this is actually Banjo, or this is Mass Effect. The emulator runs exactly the same for all the games.* I was around when we did the original Xbox [backwards compatibility] for Xbox 360 where we had a shim for every game and it just didn't scale very well. This is actually the same emulator running for all of the games. Different games do different things, as we're rolling them out we'll say 'oh maybe we have to tweak the emulator.' But in the end, the emulator is emulating the 360, so it's for everybody." Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk |
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https://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=NTDOY |
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