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slimdude · 12-28-2018, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Exchange.

What if they all looked the same because, mine was terrible overall. The 4K looked like a 1080p upscaled DVD! So far, First Blood is the worst 4K Blu-ray that I've seen. Whoever review this 4K disc on this site wasn't honest because, it looks a mess, and it's suppose to native 4K? I don't think so and if it is, then something had went drastically wrong with the video quality because, it sure doesn't look native 4K at all.

HeavyHitter · 12-28-2018, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

What if they all looked the same because, mine was terrible overall. The 4K looked like a 1080p upscaled DVD! So far, First Blood is the worst 4K Blu-ray that I've seen. Whoever review this 4K disc on this site wasn't honest because, it looks a mess, and it's suppose to native 4K? I don't think so and if it is, then something had went drastically wrong with the video quality because, it sure doesn't look native 4K at all.

No, it's a faulty disc with the issues I was getting. The compression issues and how the grain can be handled is inherent though.

DR Herbert West · 12-28-2018, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

The 4K looked like a 1080p upscaled DVD!

ROSS.T.G. · 12-28-2018, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

What if they all looked the same because, mine was terrible overall. The 4K looked like a 1080p upscaled DVD! So far, First Blood is the worst 4K Blu-ray that I've seen. Whoever review this 4K disc on this site wasn't honest because, it looks a mess, and it's suppose to native 4K? I don't think so and if it is, then something had went drastically wrong with the video quality because, it sure doesn't look native 4K at all.

Wtf are you talking about?

Bates_Motel · 12-28-2018, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

What if they all looked the same because, mine was terrible overall. The 4K looked like a 1080p upscaled DVD! So far, First Blood is the worst 4K Blu-ray that I've seen. Whoever review this 4K disc on this site wasn't honest because, it looks a mess, and it's suppose to native 4K? I don't think so and if it is, then something had went drastically wrong with the video quality because, it sure doesn't look native 4K at all.

Another troll post to try and be the "angry dissenting opinion" like you always are, but if you actually know what you're talking about, you wouldn't think it looks bad. This is why people don't listen to you.

vanpeebles09 · 12-28-2018, 10:54 PM

The 4K presentations of these Rambo movies are first class. Image quality is extremely impressive. Have no idea what the previous person is talking about? Either watching the wrong discs or something?

slimdude · 12-28-2018, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Another troll post to try and be the "angry dissenting opinion" like you always are, but if you actually know what you're talking about, you wouldn't think it looks bad. This is why people don't listen to you.

Well look what the cat dragged in!

slimdude · 12-29-2018, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Wtf are you talking about?

I don't know what the hell happen to First Blood, but it looked like crap. Maybe I got a bad disc. I'm not going to worry about it.
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slimdude · 12-29-2018, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Wtf are you talking about?

Just exactly what I've said! When I said it looked like crap, that's what I meant.

brian9229 · 12-29-2018, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

What if they all looked the same because, mine was terrible overall. The 4K looked like a 1080p upscaled DVD! So far, First Blood is the worst 4K Blu-ray that I've seen. Whoever review this 4K disc on this site wasn't honest because, it looks a mess, and it's suppose to native 4K? I don't think so and if it is, then something had went drastically wrong with the video quality because, it sure doesn't look native 4K at all.

This is just plain baffling.

ROSS.T.G. · 12-29-2018, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

I don't know what the hell happen to First Blood, but it looked like crap. Maybe I got a bad disc. I'm not going to worry about it.
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Originally Posted by slimdude

Just exactly what I've said! When I said it looked like crap, that's what I meant.

slimdude · 12-29-2018, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

I know when a 4K blu-ray look like s*** that's for sure, and I don't give a rats behind what everybody else think...It's a wrap!

ROSS.T.G. · 12-29-2018, 03:10 AM

I was referring more to your double response but ok.

HeavyHitter · 12-29-2018, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I got through about half of First Blood last night. Had repeated pixelation and audio dropout issues - going to swap it out for another. On any rate, what I saw was good. My only complaint is the compression is not always the greatest. Curiously enough, I looked at a few scenes of the accompanying remastered BD and it was very impressive. For those who cry themselves to sleep at night about a lack of a remastered BD with a UHD BD, here is your chance for a very good one.

I watched the BD in its entirely. Afterward I watched many UHD BD scenes and chapter skipping the area that gave me troubles seemed to help to get to some latter parts of the movie. On any rate, the UHD BD is superior as you would expect. Better, finer detail stands out, color takes on a more nuanced, slightly less saturated (compared to the BD) but more natural look as we often see with WCG. However, what stood out the very most to me? Highlights. The UHD just looks more organic here with the skies, water, lights, etc. being rendered better and just looking more filmic in general. The clipping and overly bright highlights on the BD were evident during the watching although not severe by any means. Some of the encoding issues were also seen on the BD although not a major issue, but not what you see from a top tier BD. I wonder if some of this is just baked into the master? But as I mentioned earlier, still a good remastered BD and destroys what I remember of that heavily DNR'd original disc.

Tuc0 · 12-29-2018, 11:43 AM

Got through all but third one. I had to go to sleep in the middle of it.
The second one is a stunner just like the first one. The few bad shots that are soft and dusty have always been that way so cannot complain the transfer. The original just has had those always. The explosions in the end and some of the jungle daytime shots with the rocks and waterfall are reference quality. The base camp shots as well. Very much enjoyed the second one.

The third one did not impress me as much. Maybe because of the sandy dry color palette but it just does not have the same kind of highlighted cinematography. Also felt it was a little softer than the two. There has not been much action yet and plenty of it and night shots to come still so I'll wait. The review said the grain is not as fine in this one but I did not notice that yet. Just a softer Image which might reveal the grain a bit more in close ups but we will see. All in all still seems a almost perfect transfer since there is no real complains here.

Now bring the fourth one to 4K. I remember the bluray being stunning alltho the digital blood effects might get too exposed in 4K...

Update: Finished the third. Some of the heavy machine gun sounds were really underwhelming and in the first big action scene there was some heavy grain when the smoke and dust are heavy in the air but nothing too distracting. One later shot where rambo is passing desert is really noisy and soft. Seems like something in the original print again. All in all pretty good but was more impressed with the first two. Again maybe they are more easy with bigger variency in colors.

Cougartiger · 12-29-2018, 05:50 PM

An interesting developement!

A few weeks after experiencing freezing/skipping when Trautman is talking to Rambo on the radio, I decided to try that scene again last night.

This time it played straight through! Not a single glitch!

I also had a couple of freezes/skips while watching Star Trek (2009). I was able to wind back and re-play those scenes with no problem. This is what inspired me to revisit Frist Blood.

My theory? My Philips 7502 needed a "break in" period and now that it has some hours on it, it's "learned" to play through previous problem spots.

I could be wrong but it makes a kind of sense to me.

In a week or two, I'll watch First Blood in full and see what happens.

brian9229 · 12-29-2018, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

I know when a 4K blu-ray look like s*** that's for sure, and I don't give a rats behind what everybody else think...It's a wrap!

No, no sir, you don't.

PuppetMasterBlu · 12-29-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cougartiger

An interesting developement!

A few weeks after experiencing freezing/skipping when Trautman is talking to Rambo on the radio, I decided to try that scene again last night.

This time it played straight through! Not a single glitch!

I had a similar problem during that scene with my Panasonic UB820. For me the video would break up. I exchanged mine and the replacement played fine.

totto · 12-30-2018, 01:11 AM

Just watched First Blood , best its ever looked.
Also had no issues playing on my Oppo 203.

Tuc0 · 12-30-2018, 11:56 AM

Through all three I had zero problems with playback using the UB900

12-29-2018, 11:43 AM	#1495
Tuc0 Power Member Member since:May 2018 Location:Finland 4K collection:317 Blu-ray collection:1286 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	Got through all but third one. I had to go to sleep in the middle of it. The second one is a stunner just like the first one. The few bad shots that are soft and dusty have always been that way so cannot complain the transfer. The original just has had those always. The explosions in the end and some of the jungle daytime shots with the rocks and waterfall are reference quality. The base camp shots as well. Very much enjoyed the second one. The third one did not impress me as much. Maybe because of the sandy dry color palette but it just does not have the same kind of highlighted cinematography. Also felt it was a little softer than the two. There has not been much action yet and plenty of it and night shots to come still so I'll wait. The review said the grain is not as fine in this one but I did not notice that yet. Just a softer Image which might reveal the grain a bit more in close ups but we will see. All in all still seems a almost perfect transfer since there is no real complains here. Now bring the fourth one to 4K. I remember the bluray being stunning alltho the digital blood effects might get too exposed in 4K... Update: Finished the third. Some of the heavy machine gun sounds were really underwhelming and in the first big action scene there was some heavy grain when the smoke and dust are heavy in the air but nothing too distracting. One later shot where rambo is passing desert is really noisy and soft. Seems like something in the original print again. All in all pretty good but was more impressed with the first two. Again maybe they are more easy with bigger variency in colors. Last edited by Tuc0; 12-29-2018 at 06:52 PM.

12-28-2018, 10:54 PM	#1486
vanpeebles09 Member Member since:Sep 2017 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1 iTunes collection:1	The 4K presentations of these Rambo movies are first class. Image quality is extremely impressive. Have no idea what the previous person is talking about? Either watching the wrong discs or something?

12-29-2018, 03:10 AM	#1493
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	I was referring more to your double response but ok.

12-29-2018, 05:50 PM	#1496
Cougartiger Active Member Member since:Jan 2010	An interesting developement! A few weeks after experiencing freezing/skipping when Trautman is talking to Rambo on the radio, I decided to try that scene again last night. This time it played straight through! Not a single glitch! I also had a couple of freezes/skips while watching Star Trek (2009). I was able to wind back and re-play those scenes with no problem. This is what inspired me to revisit Frist Blood. My theory? My Philips 7502 needed a "break in" period and now that it has some hours on it, it's "learned" to play through previous problem spots. I could be wrong but it makes a kind of sense to me. In a week or two, I'll watch First Blood in full and see what happens.

12-30-2018, 01:11 AM	#1499
totto Member Member since:Jul 2010 Location:australia 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1	Just watched First Blood , best its ever looked. Also had no issues playing on my Oppo 203.

12-30-2018, 11:56 AM	#1500
Tuc0 Power Member Member since:May 2018 Location:Finland 4K collection:317 Blu-ray collection:1286 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	Through all three I had zero problems with playback using the UB900

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