The Lion King (2019) - Page 83 - Blu-ray Forum

Kizzo · 10-13-2019, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bratpack

Finally got around to seeing this and yeah it was so bland

All the quirks and comedy of the original was removed
Beyoncé’s singing was cringe
I didn’t shed one tear during the mufasa death scene

They really should have made this like a Pixar type movie because the ultra realistic look didn’t gel at all with the story and tone of the movie

The characters just needed to be more emotive and expressive. A balance could have been made, but Jon made the decision to go for a documentary style approach for the movie. IMO when the movie is essentially a “shot for shot” remake of the original. The documentary style approach probably wasn't the best decision, but I still enjoyed the movie. I just wish a version of Endless Night and Shadowland was in the movie

I thought Aladdin and the Beauty and the Beast remake did a great job of keeping the spirit of the original, while also doing something different with the story and characters (Jasmine is different from the original). It seemed Disney didn't want to take any creative chances with the Lion King, but I understand.

brooks101189 · 10-13-2019, 01:53 PM

I mean, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin didn't venture that far away from the source material or change that much. They were all basically the same.

I love all three either way, I just like Lion King more because they had the sense not to fix what's not broken.

Creed · 10-13-2019, 03:59 PM

Yeah.....this wasn't good. It's totally unnecessary. Every aspect of the movie is inferior to the original. Visually gorgeous, but that's about it.

Wait, I love Seth and Billy as Timon and Puumba, along with J.D and Shadidi as young Simba and Nala, and the music's good as always, but it's just the original, so that was obvious. This is Disney's version of Gus Van Sant's Psycho.

Wake me up when Disney does a remake for The Lion King 1 1/2.

2/5

kylor · 10-13-2019, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Creed

Yeah.....this wasn't good. It's totally unnecessary. Every aspect of the movie is inferior to the original. Visually gorgeous, but that's about it.

Wait, I love Seth and Billy as Timon and Puumba, along with J.D and Shadidi as young Simba and Nala, and the music's good as always, but it's just the original, so that was obvious. This is Disney's version of Gus Van Sant's Psycho.

Wake me up when Disney does a remake for The Lion King 1 1/2.

2/5

I wish they'd make Treasure Planet already. I wouldn't even care if it copies the animated film 1:1, just give it to me!

Creed · 10-13-2019, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kylor

I wish they'd make Treasure Planet already. I wouldn't even care if it copies the animated film 1:1, just give it to me!

That's an underrated flick!

aiman04 · 10-13-2019, 11:24 PM

Finally saw this on Saturday with my son. Absolutely amazing CGI, well animated too. But that's about it. A few new and extended scenes, but the rest is shot by shot remake of the original. There's no creativity at all, I wonder if Jon had full control. The characters felt lifeless. The voices really feel disconnected, like a bad foreign dub. Scar don't work at all, and I thought young Simba was voiced by a little girl. The film never engaged me into its characters.

I've said it a long while ago, they should just do 100% shot by shot and use the track from the original. At least their voices are more enthusiastic in the acting.

I selected the wrong rating in my vote, should've been 2.5/5 stars. Oh well, maybe the technical aspects deserved it.

CyberpunkCentral · 10-16-2019, 05:10 PM

I heard Elton John was disappointed with this movie.

kylor · 10-16-2019, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

I heard Elton John was disappointed with this movie.

I guess he couldn't feel the love that night.

CyberpunkCentral · 10-16-2019, 05:17 PM

Found it...

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/10...ntment%3famp=1

Himmel · 10-16-2019, 05:20 PM

Wasn't even submitted for Oscar's Race (animated feature category)

http://www.oscars.org/news/32-animated-features-submitted-2019-oscar-race

MifuneFan · 10-16-2019, 05:22 PM

Elton actually comes off sounding very bitter that he wasn't included in the process. I wonder if he even truly watched the movie.

CyberpunkCentral · 10-16-2019, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Himmel

Wasn't even submitted for Oscar's Race (animated feature category)

http://www.oscars.org/news/32-animated-features-submitted-2019-oscar-race

MifuneFan · 10-16-2019, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Himmel

Wasn't even submitted for Oscar's Race (animated feature category)

http://www.oscars.org/news/32-animated-features-submitted-2019-oscar-race

Why would it be

. It has CGI characters, but it's still considered a live-action film.

Creed · 10-16-2019, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Why would it be

. It has CGI characters, but it's still considered a live-action film.

It's essentially animated, since the entire movie (barring ONE shot), is CG-animated.

filmbuffTX · 10-16-2019, 05:43 PM

I don’t think it fits the animation category. The intent was for it to look like a live action film. They also filmed portions of the movie as if it was live action using VR created environments in a physical sound stage/blue screen studio.

Sean Bailey, president of production for Disney considers it a hybrid (from The Hollywood Reporter):

“But there are things in the movie that are going to be new. [And] it is a new form of filmmaking. Historical definitions don't work. It uses some techniques that would traditionally be called animation, and other techniques that would traditionally be called live action. It is an evolution of the technology Jon used in Jungle Book."

Det. Bullock · 10-16-2019, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by filmbuffTX

I don’t think it fits the animation category. The intent was for it to look like a live action film. They also filmed portions of the movie as if it was live action using VR created environments in a physical sound stage/blue screen studio.

Sean Bailey, president of production for Disney considers it a hybrid (from The Hollywood Reporter):

“But there are things in the movie that are going to be new. [And] it is a new form of filmmaking. Historical definitions don't work. It uses some techniques that would traditionally be called animation, and other techniques that would traditionally be called live action. It is an evolution of the technology Jon used in Jungle Book."

It's still animation, I think having a separate category is just Academy snobs noot wanting to give an oscar to an animated feature but this Lion King is animated, the rest is marketing bullshit.

imsounoriginal · 10-16-2019, 06:47 PM

I can understand the Oscars not wanting to nominate Lion King (they shafted Tintin, too), but to not even submit the movie for consideration is weird. Maybe Disney knew it wouldn't win so they wanna focus their campaign muscle on Toy Story 4.

Lion King should still factor into the VFX race, though.

Cremildo · 10-16-2019, 06:54 PM

I suppose Disney didn't even submit it because they knew the animation branch wouldn't nominate it anyway, for the reasons filmbuffTX pointed out. But calling the finished product "live-action" is a stretch.

CyberpunkCentral · 10-16-2019, 06:58 PM

I kinda knew The Lion King remake was never going to be nominated. First of all, the original Lion King already gotten nominations before. Getting renominated for the same things makes no sense. Second, the Academy doesn't often nominate animated films that play into that grey area. For example, The LEGO Movie. That movie wasn't nominated at all for best animated film because it also had live-action scenes. If we count Lion King then where do we draw the line? Because a lot of movies heavily use CGI, like the MCU movies for example, but you consider them animated movies at all.

Chaotic · 10-16-2019, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

I heard Elton John was disappointed with this movie.

Disappointed with the Music

Im one of the few fans of the movie but Beyonce was pretty disappointing. Zimmer's score was still magnificent.

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10-13-2019, 01:53 PM	#1642
brooks101189 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2010 Location:My Home Trading Score:102	I mean, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin didn't venture that far away from the source material or change that much. They were all basically the same. I love all three either way, I just like Lion King more because they had the sense not to fix what's not broken.

10-13-2019, 03:59 PM	#1643
Creed Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2015 Location:Christ Church, Barbados 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:136 DVD collection:89 MA collection:75 Digital collection:45 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	Yeah.....this wasn't good. It's totally unnecessary. Every aspect of the movie is inferior to the original. Visually gorgeous, but that's about it. Wait, I love Seth and Billy as Timon and Puumba, along with J.D and Shadidi as young Simba and Nala, and the music's good as always, but it's just the original, so that was obvious. This is Disney's version of Gus Van Sant's Psycho. Wake me up when Disney does a remake for The Lion King 1 1/2. 2/5

10-13-2019, 11:24 PM	#1646
aiman04 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Malaysia Home Theater Gallery:9	Finally saw this on Saturday with my son. Absolutely amazing CGI, well animated too. But that's about it. A few new and extended scenes, but the rest is shot by shot remake of the original. There's no creativity at all, I wonder if Jon had full control. The characters felt lifeless. The voices really feel disconnected, like a bad foreign dub. Scar don't work at all, and I thought young Simba was voiced by a little girl. The film never engaged me into its characters. I've said it a long while ago, they should just do 100% shot by shot and use the track from the original. At least their voices are more enthusiastic in the acting. I selected the wrong rating in my vote, should've been 2.5/5 stars. Oh well, maybe the technical aspects deserved it.

10-16-2019, 05:10 PM	#1647
CyberpunkCentral Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:6	I heard Elton John was disappointed with this movie.

10-16-2019, 05:17 PM	#1649
CyberpunkCentral Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:6	Found it... https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/10...ntment%3famp=1

10-16-2019, 05:20 PM	#1650
Himmel Banned Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Northeast Corridor 4K collection:46 Blu-ray collection:301	Wasn't even submitted for Oscar's Race (animated feature category) http://www.oscars.org/news/32-animated-features-submitted-2019-oscar-race

10-16-2019, 05:22 PM	#1651
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:1145 Trading Score:69	Elton actually comes off sounding very bitter that he wasn't included in the process. I wonder if he even truly watched the movie.

10-16-2019, 05:43 PM	#1655
filmbuffTX Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:May 2015 4K collection:267 Blu-ray collection:6361 DVD collection:2270 Digital collection:1617 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:16	I don’t think it fits the animation category. The intent was for it to look like a live action film. They also filmed portions of the movie as if it was live action using VR created environments in a physical sound stage/blue screen studio. Sean Bailey, president of production for Disney considers it a hybrid (from The Hollywood Reporter): “But there are things in the movie that are going to be new. [And] it is a new form of filmmaking. Historical definitions don't work. It uses some techniques that would traditionally be called animation, and other techniques that would traditionally be called live action. It is an evolution of the technology Jon used in Jungle Book."

10-16-2019, 06:47 PM	#1657
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:947 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	I can understand the Oscars not wanting to nominate Lion King (they shafted Tintin, too), but to not even submit the movie for consideration is weird. Maybe Disney knew it wouldn't win so they wanna focus their campaign muscle on Toy Story 4. Lion King should still factor into the VFX race, though.

10-16-2019, 06:54 PM	#1658
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:166 Blu-ray collection:1052 Trading Score:51	I suppose Disney didn't even submit it because they knew the animation branch wouldn't nominate it anyway, for the reasons filmbuffTX pointed out. But calling the finished product "live-action" is a stretch.

10-16-2019, 06:58 PM	#1659
CyberpunkCentral Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:6	I kinda knew The Lion King remake was never going to be nominated. First of all, the original Lion King already gotten nominations before. Getting renominated for the same things makes no sense. Second, the Academy doesn't often nominate animated films that play into that grey area. For example, The LEGO Movie. That movie wasn't nominated at all for best animated film because it also had live-action scenes. If we count Lion King then where do we draw the line? Because a lot of movies heavily use CGI, like the MCU movies for example, but you consider them animated movies at all.

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