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Old 01-23-2023, 03:00 PM   #161
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Old 01-23-2023, 03:46 PM   #162
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It's that stupid wheat they keep feeding them! It was a Russian inwention, btw.
Quadrotriticale is not wheat. It is a high-yield grain, a four-lobed hybrid of wheat and rye. A perennial, also, if I'm not mistaken. Its root grain, triticale, can trace its ancestry all the way back to twentieth century Canada.
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Old 01-23-2023, 03:52 PM   #163
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Cool. A budding science-fiction fan.
Nothing stimulates the mind as much as imagining what may one day be possible.
Very much true and the greatest thing about ST, this elevation for grandeur. Works very well on a young mind and brings quite a sense of hope. But I fear his disappointment. Out of the 4 TNG movies, as far as I remember, the border two are horrendous to bad and the inner two are average to good: First Contact is all the more an action flick and Insurrection has a good spirit but is lacking cinematic enthusiasm. I may be wrong, it's been a long time since these movies.
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It’s an unpopular opinion, but I actually enjoy Generations the most out of the TNG films. Shrug.
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Old 01-23-2023, 10:50 PM   #165
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I didn't enjoy Generations when it came out or for many years later, but I now appreciate it for what it is. Once I saw First Contact, the bitter pill of Generations was a lot easier to swallow and Insurrection definitely made me appreciate it a bit more.
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Old 01-24-2023, 03:34 AM   #166
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Honestly, while the Kirk parts are a bit disappointing, I love the whole "time and feeling loss" theme of Generations.

Makes it a nice cap to the TNG era even if First Contact may be a better movie.
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Old 01-24-2023, 03:55 AM   #167
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It’s an unpopular opinion, but I actually enjoy Generations the most out of the TNG films. Shrug.
Same here. I still can't believe we were lucky enough to get a movie with both Kirk and the TNG cast.

And the concept of the Nexus still seems like a very relatable idea for some reason....
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Old 01-24-2023, 05:51 AM   #168
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It’s an unpopular opinion, but I actually enjoy Generations the most out of the TNG films. Shrug.
I didn't hate the Kirk part as far as I remember. But I didn't love the TNG part either, never been a real afficionado of the series anyway (any of them actually).
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Old 01-24-2023, 09:24 AM   #169
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I understand that this is just a placeholder with temp art and it was some decent artwork for the previous BD set but i hope this 4K set at least follows suit from the TOS crew design for the 4K set

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Ditto.
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Same here. I still can't believe we were lucky enough to get a movie with both Kirk and the TNG cast.

And the concept of the Nexus still seems like a very relatable idea for some reason....
It's basically Star Trek's version of heaven combined with the ability to right any wrongs from your past -- is it really any wonder people would kill to rejoin with it?
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Old 01-24-2023, 01:26 PM   #172
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It's basically Star Trek's version of heaven combined with the ability to right any wrongs from your past -- is it really any wonder people would kill to rejoin with it?
Never bought into the idea of the Nexus. Just some anomaly that can make you live the life you wanted or go back into the real world "anywhere at any time" to fix a real mistake? That's way too powerful of a writing tool to just have it be floating around in space that everyone just forgets about.
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But isn’t there always some powerful tech or mystical space portal that’s designed purely as that week’s MacGuffin then gets forgotten about? That’s another thing that makes it feel more like a big episode.
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Old 01-24-2023, 01:48 PM   #174
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But isn’t there always some powerful tech or mystical space portal that’s designed purely as that week’s MacGuffin then gets forgotten about? That’s another thing that makes it feel more like a big episode.
I think the idea of THIS MacGuffin is that it kills everyone who gets close, or seems to, so that everyone thinks its just a killing thing that goes through space. Picard is the only one to have decided that his duty to the real world was more important than his fantasies made real.

I mean, for explanations of stupid pseudo-scientific stuff in Star Trek, it's far from the worst.
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Old 01-24-2023, 02:41 PM   #175
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I think the idea of THIS MacGuffin is that it kills everyone who gets close, or seems to, so that everyone thinks its just a killing thing that goes through space. Picard is the only one to have decided that his duty to the real world was more important than his fantasies made real.

I mean, for explanations of stupid pseudo-scientific stuff in Star Trek, it's far from the worst.
That's a fair point.
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Old 01-24-2023, 05:18 PM   #176
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But isn’t there always some powerful tech or mystical space portal that’s designed purely as that week’s MacGuffin then gets forgotten about? That’s another thing that makes it feel more like a big episode.
Not all of them. Star Trek IV acknowledged the slingshot around the sun maneuver from 'Tomorrow is Yesterday' when they did their time travel adventure. Why they don't do that maneuver more often in critical situations is a problem in and of itself but IV gets a pass for being a fun and way less convoluted story when compared to Generations.
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If we're talking about gaping plot holes, why did the Borg have to go back in time near Earth? They could have just done it wherever.
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If we're talking about gaping plot holes, why did the Borg have to go back in time near Earth? They could have just done it wherever.
Wasn't it described as a last ditch effort when their cube got destroyed on the approach in the 24th century?
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If we're talking about gaping plot holes, why did the Borg have to go back in time near Earth? They could have just done it wherever.
Could have been a last second change of strategy once the cube was critically damaged.
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Wasn't it described as a last ditch effort when their cube got destroyed on the approach in the 24th century?
I don't remember that. Even if it was the case, if they had the capability, why not just do it without the last ditch effort?
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