The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

I just watched it, you're exactly right. That was the fat Peter Jackson (meaning years and years ago) talking about the original and how exactly he intended it to look. This is about the original release, not the BD EE release.

The most important part is 3:45 in. I transcribed exactly what the WETA grader (with Jackson behind him looking on) said, nothing changed or removed:




This is exactly THE OPPOSITE of what they've done to this EE release. Because of this the warm feel in many scenes is completely lost, it's completely opposite to how the original was intended to be seen. In the new EE they grossly oversaturated it with green tint.

How old is this documentary?

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by Red Pill 101

Then what happened!? I'm not personally asking you...I think we are all just frustrated! Either these screen shots are ALL FAKE (which I doubt), or someone screwed up somewhere.

In my opinion, it sounds like a fact that the current theatrical presentation is how Jackson wants the film to look. To the best of his knowledge, this is also how the EE Blu should/will also look as well.

I think it's safe to say, that at this point they DO NOT look the same.

According to a user on the avs forum, the intro with peter jackson states that the master being shown is the same as the blu ray.

It is possible, that people were so invested in the movie, that they did not focus on the colors.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

People over at AVS who have seen the new theatrical screening said they can detect no tint whatsoever, and that in the beginning PJ said specifically the new master for the theatrical presentation was the same used to make these EE BD's... which means something was altered with the BD's.

And some people who actually have watched the BDs (imagine that!) on their calibrated displays at home are not seeing "extreme" green.

[HeavyHitter]

It's also possible this new color is to better match the Hobbit movies.

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

It's also possible this new color is to better match the Hobbit movies.

Then Two Towers and King should have been changed as well. They weren't and I doubt that Jackson, who has shot many visually stunning works without the muddy green crap that is in these shots for Fellowship, would have intended for the film to be shown this way.

I feel that he was way to busy producing/directing two massive films, and he didn't have the time to really look at the finished product. At least Spielberg's releases on Blu accurately represent the film as released. That's all that I ask with BD releases. Replicate the theatrical experience, don't replicate current trends with your previous works.

[horizonline]

[Penton-Man]

lol, you guys are having way too much fun here. This should be illegal. I can’t keep up. All I’ll add is that Stinky (https://forum.blu-ray.com/4848205-post3148.html)

there is no insane green tint knob on the console, it’s a point and click type thing with the mouse (when intended) on a ‘hue wheel’.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

Then Two Towers and King should have been changed as well. They weren't and I doubt that Jackson, who has shot many visually stunning works without the muddy green crap that is in these shots for Fellowship, would have intended for the film to be shown this way.

I feel that he was way to busy producing/directing two massive films, and he didn't have the time to really look at the finished product. At least Spielberg's releases on Blu accurately represent the film as released. That's all that I ask with BD releases. Replicate the theatrical experience, don't replicate current trends with your previous works.

Let's not make assumptions outside of the realm of fact. It's pointless.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by indy7solo

This is what I don't understand, where has anyone posted the "real" screen caps. We only know for sure three trusted people have the actual physical discs. None of them has posted a picture or screen cap from their discs. One has said they see a green tint on the mountain, but not the scene immediately before. The other two have raved about the image.

All of the images we are seeing are from a dump file, that is illegal, and we have no idea what might have happened to the image while it was ripped. So until some established sites that post screen caps with their reviews post some images, you guys should withhold canceling your pre-orders.

Deep breaths and patience people.

If, as it seems, these are from the actual BD, I would think we have a cause for concern:
http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...less=0#auswahl

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

Let's not make assumptions outside of the realm of fact. It's pointless.

I'm only talking as a counter-point to the assumption that the regrading is to make Fellowship more like a possible color palate for The Hobbit.

Why pick on me?!

[Show spoiler]

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Red Pill 101

Why did they have to F' with it!? I think we would have all been much more complacent had they mirrored and matched the look of the latter two films while simply correcting the issues present in the FotR Theatrical Blu!

I hear you! If they had just fixed the DNR and other issues with the TEs and left the color alone like they did with TT and ROTK, we would all be better off!!

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I have been saying all along that this was deliberate as the the PQ in general was handled with care and it's HIGHLY UNLIKELY these were screwed up. In addition, it was already reported PJ directed the new coloring. People still won't believe it! LOL Also one should always be skeptical of screenshots by some anonymous person. Amazing how many people blindly accept them like sheep when they don't know the source and technique used. Someone easily could have pulled a prank on these people.

I am undecided at best at this point and confused as all hell as far as this whole green issue is concerned. If they had just left things alone as far as color like we have been enjoying for almost 10 years now, this thread would be much better off for everyone.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

I'm only talking as a counter-point to the assumption that the regrading is to make Fellowship more like a possible color palate for The Hobbit.

Why pick on me?!

[Show spoiler]

Yes, you are right.

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

It's also possible this new color is to better match the Hobbit movies.

Let's not make assumptions outside the realm of fact. It's pointless.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

Yes, you are right.



Let's not make assumptions outside the realm of fact. It's pointless.

In that case, this entire thread should be closed! lol

It has been stated PJ directed and approved the color change. CASE CLOSED.

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

I hear you! If they had just fixed the DNR and other issues with the TEs and left the color alone like they did with TT and ROTK, we would all be better off!!

I agree thrice! Sure, there will always be those that will nitpick, but I would have been happy.

[indy7solo]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

If, as it seems, these are from the actual BD, I would think we have a cause for concern:
http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...less=0#auswahl

You are proving my point, how do we know those are from the actual disc? They look like the dump file pictures everywhere else.

And if the screenshot from Bill Hunt's computer is to believed then the physcial disc is not that green, for that exact shot you linked to.

But we have know way of knowing if that comparison from Mr. Hunt is real, we can't/shouldn't assume that is what it looks like either.

Like i said before, we know of three respectable people that have the actual discs and have commented on it, none have released a verifiable screenshot. Just wait for bluray.com, dvdbeaver, someone like that to review it since they are trusted sources that post screen shots. Then decide.

Thanks,

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

In that case, this entire thread should be closed! lol

It has been stated PJ directed and approved the color change. CASE CLOSED.

Fine.

ENTIRE THREAD

Let's not make assumptions outside the realm of fact. It's pointless.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

If, as it seems, these are from the actual BD, I would think we have a cause for concern:
http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...less=0#auswahl

I don't speak german. Can somebody translate those posts under the screen-caps?

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

lol, you guys are having way too much fun here. This should be illegal. I can’t keep up.

Wait until Star Wars comes out. People will be freaking out even worse.

"Lucas wouldn't go this far!"

"Fox screwed up like they did on Patton, the Phantom Menace & New Hope DVD!"

"This is not how the colors looked on the special editions!!!"

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Im just glad Jackson didn't intend for us to jump off a roof too.

Best post of the day.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Wait until Star Wars comes out. People will be freaking out even worse.

I have word that George Lucas has become quite fond of the color "hot pink".