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Old 01-07-2012, 04:15 PM   #11
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And it's hilarious that your examples basically prove what I said, that "TVs" won't be 80+" standard, or fail to address how it's still a form-factor issue in the shutter concept. Just because it's a shutter doesn't mean I magically get more space in my room for it.
I think he fails in explaining it, but I agree with him. I just made a post on the other 4k thread so I hope you don't mind if I copy it

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Also, after the splurge of McMansions, homes are getting smaller again, not larger, so the potential market for very large screen sizes, especially in cities, is not that great.
I don't get the connection. Do you think in order to properly watch a movie you need a mcmansion? this is what THX has to say about screen size to distance
http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-ent...r/hdtv-set-up/

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How do you calculate the best seat-to-screen distance for a plasma, LCD TV or projection screen? Divide the size of your screen by .84 (screen size is measured diagonally). For example, a 65-inch TV divided by .84 equals a 77-inch viewing distance (6.5 feet).
now I am not saying their metric is the only one (personaly I would say with today’s tech you can easily go to just 1x screen width and with 4k even easier) but THX is a respectable organisation in the field and since they neither manufacture nor sell TVs it is not about getting people to pay more for larger displays. So are you saying that someone needs a McMansion in order to have a room where their head is 77" from their TV (after all I think you would agree that a 65" TV is much larger then the norm), just to put it in perspective a twin/double bed is 75" and a queen, king is 80" so if you have a bed and it is not from one wall to the other you can definitely have a large screen. But my guess is most people sit at around 10' plus from the display and that would mean 8.4' screen (or ~100" diagonal)

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If you look at most new apartments being build in Manhattan, for example, most of the architecture is floor-to-ceiling windows of continuous glass in much of the apartment. There's actually very little wall space and very little space that can be dedicated to a screen of any size, never mind a screen larger than 65".
I don't see how that is relevant or makes any sense, you can have a display in front of windows, or even in the middle of a room, for example, one of my friends has an apartment in Ottawa windows on two of the sides over looking the river and parliament (gorgeous view), he wanted to enjoy it so the seats face the windows, he has blinds and a screen, when he is not watching TV or wants to enjoy the view it is all open and he can sit out enjoy the view and almost think he is in the country at night when wanting to watch TV he closes the blinds and pulls down the screen and turns on the projector.

An other example is my sister, her basement is an open floor plan, part of it is a gym with exercise equipment and part of it is a play room for the kids, between the two she has a 42" TV on a swivel stand, if the kids want to watch something while playing the TV faces that way, if someone wants to watch something while exercising they rotate the TV 180 degrees and they can watch something while exercising.

I really don't get why windows or open floor plan means someone can't have a TV in their home.


the reality is that most people can enjoy the big screen instead of the little screen experience at home and I have never heard of anyone that decided to go with a smaller screen because the previous one was too big. The reality is that in the 30's a TV was on average around 11" and since then the sizes have kept on growing with every passing decade and there is no sign that it will stop. The excuses given for why "people won't have big screens" do appear to be mired in what they have and use now. You said "doesn't mean I magically get more space in my room for it." but where is the space needed? it is not for how far one sits (i.e. I can't sit 30' from the TV- since you can most likely sit as far from the TV as you do know but just enjoy it more because it fills more of your vision) and if one day, for example, there is cheap roll up OLED, then placing it probably won't be much of an issue either. Now if the issue is "TV", then let's call it a display. Traditionally a TV is a display with a TV tuner and a Monitor is a display without one, and for this discussion it does not matter.
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