Prometheus Review Thread (Spoilers)

[Grumpz]

Ok, I need some help connecting the dots.

[Show spoiler]How does a chamber with black organic material, an engineer, a ship that has a map with earth on it, a ship with loads and loads of black organic material, and 3 or 4 other ships/bases possibly loaded with more black organic material, lead everyone to believe that Earth was targeted for being wiped out?

Sure, I concede that the black material has more than one use, and can be seen as a weapon, but I don't for the life of me see the final engineer heading back to Earth to wipe it clean. Yes, the Engineer's ship had Earth in it's map, but it would of had thousands upon thousands of planets.

What am I missing?

[Adam.C]

Originally Posted by Dr Locked Her

Some have been griping about the unanswered questions the film left. But they seem to forget a certain sci-fi classic in 1968 that boggled heads all over the world and left a zillion questions unanswered. I'm sure you all know what film I'm talking about. If not, then I'll just leave it ambiguous.

Funny thing, this mysterious film you speak of is considered one of the best of all time. In fact it might be my favorite sci-fi film of all time.

[CYMBOL]

Originally Posted by Grumpz

Ok, I need some help connecting the dots.

[Show spoiler]How does a chamber with black organic material, an engineer, a ship that has a map with earth on it, a ship with loads and loads of black organic material, and 3 or 4 other ships/bases possibly loaded with more black organic material, lead everyone to believe that Earth was targeted for being wiped out?

Sure, I concede that the black material has more than one use, and can be seen as a weapon, but I don't for the life of me see the final engineer heading back to Earth to wipe it clean. Yes, the Engineer's ship had Earth in it's map, but it would of had thousands upon thousands of planets.

What am I missing?

Basically, the Captain of Prometheus is the one connecting that dot for us.

It's pretty obvious that the black goo is dangerous. We got that proven a few different ways. In the end, for whatever reason, Black Goo + Humans = poor outcome. So, we know that.

The Captain, through some experience he has had, believes that this is similar to a

[Show spoiler]weapons testing facility.

Was it always designed that way? Who knows - we just know that the Captain has a bad feeling and expresses to Shaw what he believes they are seeing there.

We (the viewer) - see David

[Show spoiler]investigate the star map last loaded (as seen in the last recording of the Engineers) and he is able to discover their destination via the star map - Earth. Yes, it had many other planets - but I'm pretty sure the GPS destination ended at Earth.

We aren't really sure if Shaw believes the Captain. Doesn't really matter - she has bigger issues to deal with at the moment -

[Show spoiler]humans.

I can't remember if David mentions it, but for some reason I'm thinking he mentions their destination when explaining what he found in the room.

Anyone remember if David mentions the destination?

[Grumpz]

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Basically, the Captain of Prometheus is the one connecting that dot for us.

It's pretty obvious that the black goo is dangerous. We got that proven a few different ways. In the end, for whatever reason, Black Goo + Humans = poor outcome. So, we know that.

The Captain, through some experience he has had, believes that this is similar to a

[Show spoiler]weapons testing facility.

Was it always designed that way? Who knows - we just know that the Captain has a bad feeling and expresses to Shaw what he believes they are seeing there.

We (the viewer) - see David

[Show spoiler]investigate the star map last loaded (as seen in the last recording of the Engineers) and he is able to discover their destination via the star map - Earth. Yes, it had many other planets - but I'm pretty sure the GPS destination ended at Earth.

We aren't really sure if Shaw believes the Captain. Doesn't really matter - she has bigger issues to deal with at the moment -

[Show spoiler]humans.

I can't remember if David mentions it, but for some reason I'm thinking he mentions their destination when explaining what he found in the room.

Anyone remember if David mentions the destination?

So right now, until someone confirms that David magically figured out they were on their way to Earth, all we have is speculation?

How do we know that the engineer didn't just want to get the eff off the planet, because his entire crew blew up in the cave?

It seems from reading almost every post in this thread, that it common knowledge and accepted that the Engineer was going to wipe us out...yet, logically speaking, there is nothing, and I mean nothing to make an argument that is in fact the case.

[Monkey]

Curious question as I haven't watched it yet.

During the approach in the trailers there is clearly at least 4 or 5 pyramids/domes with the surrounding wall. Do they actually explore more than one of them?

[impetus]

Originally Posted by Dr Locked Her

BTW, word has it on few other sites that a Director's Cut will come out on video that's about 30 min longer. Anybody know if that's been confirmed?

Straight from Ridley Scott:
http://collider.com/ridley-scott-pro...terview/172202

The details aren't nailed down but he plans to do it. He estimated the new cut could be approx 20 mins longer, and also mentioned about a half hour of standalone deleted scenes.

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by Monkey

Curious question as I haven't watched it yet.

During the approach in the trailers there is clearly at least 4 or 5 pyramids/domes with the surrounding wall. Do they actually explore more than one of them?

Nope.

[Dr Locked Her]

Originally Posted by Adam.C

Funny thing, this mysterious film you speak of is considered one of the best of all time. In fact it might be my favorite sci-fi film of all time.

I know, that's the point I was making against the gripes of Prometheus being too vague. Citizen Kane was a head scratcher of sorts and so was Scott's own Bladerunner. I love films that make you think. And yes, Stan the Man's 2001 is pretty much my all time favorite.

[Grumpz]

Originally Posted by Monkey

Curious question as I haven't watched it yet.

During the approach in the trailers there is clearly at least 4 or 5 pyramids/domes with the surrounding wall. Do they actually explore more than one of them?

Originally Posted by TheMan

Nope.

[Show spoiler]Which raises a valid point. why didn't someone from another dome take off to kill earth? Were all the bases infected? If so, how? This race isn't advanced enough to have quarantine procedures while playing with a black organic material that blows it's own people up?

They had all those Engineers in one base, and the rest were empty? That's safe.

[InCali]

Originally Posted by Dr Locked Her

Some have been griping about the unanswered questions the film left. But they seem to forget a certain sci-fi classic in 1968 that boggled heads all over the world and left a zillion questions unanswered. I'm sure you all know what film I'm talking about. If not, then I'll just leave it ambiguous.

Yeah....I remember. "Barbarella". Right? Like the "big" question....Why did they ever make it? (I hate laughing at my own jokes, but just couldn't help it this time......)

[obiwopkenobi62]

Did anyone else get the impression that the opening scene was at an ancient Niagara Falls? I thought it was.

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMan

Nope.

ok, sounds like it goes along with the rest of the unexplained.

Originally Posted by Grumpz

[Show spoiler]Which raises a valid point. why didn't someone from another dome take off to kill earth? Were all the bases infected? If so, how? This race isn't advanced enough to have quarantine procedures while playing with a black organic material that blows it's own people up?

They had all those Engineers in one base, and the rest were empty? That's safe.

[Show spoiler]Yeah the trailers alone had me wondering.. Are they all the same? (externally they look to be).. Could easily be more aside from this landing strip. Would mean at least 4 to 5 ships as well. Easily enough distance between them to have a some evacuate (maybe that is what happened) in the event of a breach/accident of goo

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Grumpz

So right now, until someone confirms that David magically figured out they were on their way to Earth, all we have is speculation?

How do we know that the engineer didn't just want to get the eff off the planet, because his entire crew blew up in the cave?

It seems from reading almost every post in this thread, that it common knowledge and accepted that the Engineer was going to wipe us out...yet, logically speaking, there is nothing, and I mean nothing to make an argument that is in fact the case.

There is no question that the intent is to return to Earth and destroy mankind. Did you miss the plot course when the arc of light originates from the pilots control and connects with the Orrery representation of Earth just before the Engineer takes off? It was a good 3D moment and one of the few in the film that had a pop out element. Did you not listen to the dialogue between David and Shaw?. In addition, there are numerous quotes from Scott stating that is their intent. Scott has even given us the reason for their decision to destroy us. Perhaps you should see the movie again. And, click on the spoilers in the previous posts. The answers are there.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by TheMan

Nope.

Actually, there is every reason to believe that they did.

[Show spoiler]In order to get the ship that David and Shaw leave LV-223 in, they would have to access it by entering another dome and proceeding down through it into the kilometer long access tunnel that leads to the underground ship hanger. Obviously they would have an opportunity to see if there were any Engineers there and if any survived as the one in stasis found on the first ship did.

[Dr Locked Her]

Originally Posted by InCali

Yeah....I remember. "Barbarella". Right? Like the "big" question....Why did they ever make it? (I hate laughing at my own jokes, but just couldn't help it this time......)

I thought Barbi was '67. You know, summer of love and all that.

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Actually, there is every reason to believe that they did.

[Show spoiler]In order to get the ship that David and Shaw leave LV-223 in, they would have to access it by entering another dome and proceeding down through in to the kilometer long access tunnel that leads to the underground ship hanger. Obviously they would have an opportunity to see if there were any Engineers there and if any survived as the one in stasis found on the first ship did.

Well, yeah. I assume that's what they did to get to the other ship but it's never actually shown lol.

[Blu Titan]

I'll be checking this one out tomorrow. Finally .

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by Dr Locked Her

I liked it mainly for it's ambiguity, today's audience has been conditioned to have roadmaps drawn for them in the stories to guide them through it ala the theatrical version of Bladerunner with Ford's narration...

It's not all audiences. It's mainly western civilization that likes their stories spoon-fed to them. It's not the same over in Asia. The first time I watched Akira, I was like, "what the hell just happened?" But I was strangely drawn back to it even though I didn't understand it. I've probably seen that film eight or ten times, and I still take new things out of it each time I see it.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Monkey

ok, sounds like it goes along with the rest of the unexplained.

[Show spoiler]Yeah the trailers alone had me wondering.. Are they all the same? (externally they look to be).. Could easily be more aside from this landing strip. Would mean at least 4 to 5 ships as well. Easily enough distance between them to have a some evacuate (maybe that is what happened) in the event of a breach/accident of goo

[Show spoiler]If all the Engineers died in the other domes, it implies some sort of divine intervention that occurred 2000 years ago when, as Ridley puts it, we crucified one of their emissaries.

[InCali]

Originally Posted by Dr Locked Her

I thought Barbi was '67. You know, summer of love and all that.

Checking..........From IMDB - Barbarella (1968) 5.8 out of 10 stars....wow, better than I thought .....Joe Bob says "don't bother"......