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Old 06-17-2012, 08:43 PM   #4301
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And since it's budget was around $130 mil(which I find remarkable)...

that would seem to guarantee a sequel guys.
I know how the mindset of the studios work, and they aren't going to greenlight a sequel to this thing unless it meets it's budget domestically in the US. That means the film needs to take a good $40m more to see a second film, regardless of it's international success. And seeing as how this week it was taking about $5m per night mon-thursday and dropping gradually, i don't see that happening. It'll drop out about $120m folks.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:08 PM   #4302
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That $130M number is correct, shocking as that sounds.
Wow....If that's what they're saying, it makes me wonder about the honesty of studios.....I mean, they wouldn't actually LIE about anything like that...would they?? Or exclude certain budgets???

Also, to say the domestic take will dictate whether or not a sequel is made is to deny that all currency which ain't green (don't mean to exclude my good friends in Canada....don't know what the currency looks like....sorry...) can't buy stuff. If some movie made a boatload of dough outside the US and basically broke even here and some execs thought they could do a repeat, they wouldn't make a sequel???
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:09 PM   #4303
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And since it's budget was around $130 mil(which I find remarkable)...

that would seem to guarantee a sequel guys.

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The tax credits helped keep production costs down.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:15 PM   #4304
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After the videos run, it gives you access to several other videos including some showing the
[Show spoiler]birth of the Deacon.
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/p...cts-breakdown/
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:16 PM   #4305
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To say the domestic take will dictate whether or not a sequel is made is to deny that all currency which ain't green (don't mean to exclude my good friends in Canada....don't know what the currency looks like....sorry...) can't buy stuff. If some movie made a boatload of dough outside the US and basically broke even here and some execs thought they could do a repeat, they wouldn't make a sequel???
Wrath Of The Titans cost $150m to make and grossed $80m in the US and a further $218m internationally, but no-one wants to make a sequel. The actual logic to this defies any common sense, so the studio must get a lower 'take' of international box office than domestic, i would imagine.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:17 PM   #4306
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Wow....If that's what they're saying, it makes me wonder about the honesty of studios.....I mean, they wouldn't actually LIE about anything like that...would they?? Or exclude certain budgets???

Also, to say the domestic take will dictate whether or not a sequel is made is to deny that all currency which ain't green (don't mean to exclude my good friends in Canada....don't know what the currency looks like....sorry...) can't buy stuff. If some movie made a boatload of dough outside the US and basically broke even here and some execs thought they could do a repeat, they wouldn't make a sequel???
Unfortunately, the studio's take from the International box office is much less than the domestic box office.

So how do you know if the box-office gods have smiled enough on your favorite movie that studios are likely to greenlight similar films?

The short answer is, it depends on a number of factors, but a rule of thumb seems to be that the film needs to make twice its production budget globally. For the longer answer, read on.


http://io9.com/5747305/how-much-mone...-be-profitable

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Old 06-17-2012, 09:21 PM   #4307
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I thought the film has plenty of freaky bits, although I found the trailer to be more terrifying.

check out this trailer


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Old 06-17-2012, 09:22 PM   #4308
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Wrath Of The Titans cost $150m to make and grossed $80m in the US and a further $218m internationally, but no-one wants to make a sequel. The actual logic to this defies any common sense, so the studio must get a lower 'take' of international box office than domestic, i would imagine.
If that's the case, that seems like a reasonable explanation, but raises an interesting question "Why?".

Some influential corporate person might have also said (to paraphrase...) "Wow, that movie (WotT and not Prometheus) REALLY sucked. Why TF would we ever even consider a 3quel?" (And they'd be right...)

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Old 06-17-2012, 09:30 PM   #4309
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What do you guys think was up with the green crystal that Halloway was looking at when he said, "this is just another tomb?"

And we still have unanswered question regarding the Alien...which I hope they'll explore; along with the Engineers
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:33 PM   #4310
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What do you guys think was up with the green crystal that Halloway was looking at when he said, "this is just another tomb?"

And we still have unanswered question regarding the Alien...which I hope they'll explore; along with the Engineers
I'm getting' killed w/these questions. I'm a hafta go see it again. Loved it the 1st time in a "true" IMAX theater. Visuals killed...almost as good as I've seen.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:42 PM   #4311
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I'm getting' killed w/these questions. I'm a hafta go see it again. Loved it the 1st time in a "true" IMAX theater. Visuals killed...almost as good as I've seen.
There's quite a few questions the film leaves us with . But now I feel I have more questions regarding the first ALIEN film:

[Show spoiler]Where did the eggs come from? Did more engineers come to LV-223 and take the Alien seen at the end of the movie and use it to produce eggs? Was the ship in Alien on it's way to Earth as well? Was it actually carrying eggs or carrying the vaces seen in this film and had them stored in another area of the ship?


I NEED ANSWERS
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:45 PM   #4312
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What do you guys think was up with the green crystal that Halloway was looking at when he said, "this is just another tomb?"

And we still have unanswered question regarding the Alien...which I hope they'll explore; along with the Engineers
That scene is different in the trailer. The trailer shows a
[Show spoiler]sacrificial cup like the one used by the Sacrifice Engineer at the beginning of the film. the green crystal was substituted for the cup in
the scene shown in the movie. You may find this interesting: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/comm...ums/topic/7872
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:46 PM   #4313
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Guy Pearce was pretty good in this.

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That's not a trailer, that's the whole movie!
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:51 PM   #4314
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There's quite a few questions the film leaves us with . But now I feel I have more questions regarding the first ALIEN film:

[Show spoiler]Where did the eggs come from? Did more engineers come to LV-223 and take the Alien seen at the end of the movie and use it to produce eggs? Was the ship in Alien on it's way to Earth as well? Was it actually carrying eggs or carrying the vaces seen in this film and had them stored in another area of the ship?


I NEED ANSWERS
The question is never answered in the film. In the O'Bannon screenplay,
[Show spoiler]there was an urn (a sketch of it is in the screenplay. It looks exactly like the ampoule canisters seen in prometheus). I see this reversion as an homage to O'Bannon. Some speculation was that the eggs were produced by the ship, given that the ship was believed to be a living biomechanical entity. There are several posts with links in the Alien Anthology thread.


I see you own the Alien Anthology. You can find the screenplay and sketch I'm referring to on the archive disk.

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Old 06-17-2012, 09:53 PM   #4315
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The question is never answered in the film. In the O'Bannon screenplay,
[Show spoiler]there was an urn (a sketch of it is in the screenplay. It looks exactly like the ampoule canisters seen in prometheus). I see this reversion as an homage to O'Bannon. Some speculation was that the eggs were produced by the ship, given that the ship was believed to be a living biomechanical entity. There are several posts with links in the Alien Anthology thread.
Exactly. I know those questions aren't answered in the film. But by God, I want them answered soon lol
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:56 PM   #4316
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Exactly. I know those questions aren't answered in the film. But by God, I want them answered soon lol
Help Fox greenlight the sequel. Buy more tickets for Prometheus.

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Old 06-17-2012, 10:14 PM   #4317
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Honestly, I think the reason for the lack of a scares and toned down intensity is because we watched the PG-13 cut DESPITE the R rating it ended up with. As far as I know, the version we watched in theaters was the version that Ridley thought SHOULD have garnered a PG-13 rating. PG-13 films are simply NOT scary and are too toned down to be effective as horror. Aside from the med pod sequence, I see no reason why this film should have gotten a R rating. Maybe next time he can film and edit the film as a true R picture from the get go.
I dont understand....the med pod scene was NoT scary unless you are a woman (i cant relate to something being inside me)...i thought the movie was VERY intense and accomplished scaring the crowd at the theater.
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I dont understand....the med pod scene was NoT scary unless you are a woman (i cant relate to something being inside me)...i thought the movie was VERY intense and accomplished scaring the crowd at the theater.
The mod pod sequence is probably what got it the R rating because of the graphic detail of what it showed. Don't get me wrong. The film was very suspenseful and entertaining, but it was not horrific and scary in the same way that Alien was/is. If Ridley Scott intended to scare the crap out of the audience, I don't think he was entirely successful. However, if he wanted to entertain the crap out of the audience and get people thinking, that I would agree with. For the record, I love the med pod sequence and was thoroughly disturbed by it and I am a male. I don't think you have to be a female in order to be bothered by it.
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:27 PM   #4319
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Where is the Jesus type reference? I never caught on to any hint that one came before and he was killed.
Nothing direct. Only in interviews... which is why I think that they decided to be FAR TOO vague and ambiguous on the matter.

If you are going to give the audience something to think about, make sure that they will think about it ON THEIR OWN instead of having to stumble onto it via media content outside the confines of the presentation itself.
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Help Fox greenlight the sequel. Buy more tickets for Prometheus.
I saw it yesterday and today
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