2025-2026 College Football Thread

[ChadFL]

In case anyone was wondering, this is why Florida is #2 ahead of Oregon. No big conspiracy, they just played a tougher schedule.

Not that I'd be worried if I'm Oregon anyway. Florida isn't going to beat South Carolina, Georgia and FSU - all of whom they still have to play.

Strength of schedule:

Florida - 8th of 124 teams
Oregon - 78th of 124 teams

[ApolloOne]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Florida isn't going to beat South Carolina, Georgia and FSU - all of whom they still have to play.

And if they do beat them, they still have to face Alabama in the SEC Championship game.

Love the foil hat pic, btw. "Rigged" my eye.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ApolloOne

And if they do beat them, they still have to face Alabama in the SEC Championship game.

Love the foil hat pic, btw. "Rigged" my eye.

Of course, they'd still get in if they lost to Alabama.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by ApolloOne

And if they do beat them, they still have to face Alabama in the SEC Championship game.

Love the foil hat pic, btw. "Rigged" my eye.

It's not rigged. It's just a lousy system. And a four team playoff isn't going to add all that much credibility or end the controversy.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

It's not rigged. It's just a lousy system. And a four team playoff isn't going to add all that much credibility or end the controversy.

I'm not saying it's rigged either. I'm just saying it's biased towards the SEC, but not intentionally. The polls it uses are a large part of the problem, as they help determine and quantify the "supremacy".

[Kev1080P]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

In case anyone was wondering, this is why Florida is #2 ahead of Oregon. No big conspiracy, they just played a tougher schedule.

Not that I'd be worried if I'm Oregon anyway. Florida isn't going to beat South Carolina, Georgia and FSU - all of whom they still have to play.

Strength of schedule:

Florida - 8th of 124 teams
Oregon - 78th of 124 teams

florida has the best resume in CF easily right now, thats why they are #2

[sycro]

Looking at the numbers right now from the "other" polls, I just don't get it.

Mississippi State has an average ranking of 12th. High as 7th, low as 21st.

Meanwhile Florida State is unranked in all but one of them, where they are 23rd. Clemson is also unranked in all but one, where they are 22nd. I know they each have a loss, but I don't think you can logically say they are not top 25 teams.

[ChadFL]

Seems like we're at the point that even if a Big East team could run the table they'd still almost certainly lose out a spot in the national title game to a 1-loss team from a better conference. That could happen with either Rutgers or Louisville.

[gvortex7]

Originally Posted by supersix4

And? lol the RB was still trying to go forward. He got him down and just happened to contort his body that way

Note for the running back next time: When you're wrapped up, go down.

Man, I know you always like to argue about things even if your argument has no merit, but for you to think this was not an intentional (and down right dirty play) is quite ridiculous.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

It's not easy. Only two of the past six teams from the SEC who won a national title went undefeated. Strength of schedule is what separates the SEC and why their 1-loss teams make it in national title games over weaker conference 1-loss teams.

This really doesn't explain last year. The SEC's SOS was (relatively) awful, and yet they were given the national championship in November.

[ApolloOne]

Originally Posted by sycro

Of course, they'd still get in if they lost to Alabama.

I doubt that very much. Particularly if an undefeated Oregon is still out there. Add to that the fact that such a loss would be during the last week of the season—the day before the votes are cast, with no chance to go out and rack up more big wins like Alabama did last year. Given that scenario, it's hard to imagine the human polls putting them back together again in Miami Gardens.

But that may be academic. Florida still has to play South Carolina, Georgia and FSU. I don't think they win all those games and put themselves in that scenario in the first place.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

This really doesn't explain last year. The SEC's SOS was (relatively) awful, and yet they were given the national championship in November.

It wasn't relatively awful. The SEC had the 2nd best SOS in 2011 behind the Big-12.

So far in 2012 the SEC is easily back on top in SOS. The Big-Ten is is so bad this season they're trailing the Conference USA in SOS.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Man, I know you always like to argue about things even if your argument has no merit, but for you to think this was not an intentional (and down right dirty play) is quite ridiculous.

LMAO absurdly irrational statement. Didn't realize you were the judge of things that have merit

You mad bro?

[Eye Candy]

BCS STANDINGS - OCT. 14, 2012

Team Rankings & BCS Average

1 Alabama .9761
2 Florida .9092

3 Oregon .8993
4 Kansas State .8963
5 Notre Dame .8774
6 LSU .7522
7 South Carolina .6930
8 Oregon State .6808


9 Oklahoma .6664
10 USC .5959
11 Georgia .4980
12 Mississippi State .4846
13 West Virginia .4793
14 Florida State .4277
15 Rutgers .4083
16 Louisville .4061
17 Texas Tech .3572
18 Texas A&M .3379
19 Clemson .3341
20 Stanford .2654
21 Cincinnati .2483
22 Boise State .1978
23 TCU .1377
24 Iowa State .1139
25 Texas .0640

[gvortex7]

Originally Posted by supersix4

LMAO absurdly irrational statement. Didn't realize you were the judge of things that have merit

You mad bro?

Not at all. Just stating the obvious. Oh, and most everything you say is absurd. So there is that too.

Also, to say that your view of things is usually skewed is the understatement of the year.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Not at all. Just stating the obvious. Oh, and most everything you say is absurd. So there is that too.

Also, to say that your view of things is usually skewed is the understatement of the year.

Hahah aww your mad.. Heres a tip learn to distinguish sarcasm and jokes, from an opinion. Its cool though Hollywood FL = not even worth it

Anyway back to something that matters.

Originally Posted by Eye Candy

BCS STANDINGS - OCT. 14, 2012

Team Rankings & BCS Average

1 Alabama .9761
2 Florida .9092

3 Oregon .8993
4 Kansas State .8963
5 Notre Dame .8774
6 LSU .7522
7 South Carolina .6930
8 Oregon State .6808


9 Oklahoma .6664
10 USC .5959
11 Georgia .4980
12 Mississippi State .4846
13 West Virginia .4793
14 Florida State .4277
15 Rutgers .4083
16 Louisville .4061
17 Texas Tech .3572
18 Texas A&M .3379
19 Clemson .3341
20 Stanford .2654
21 Cincinnati .2483
22 Boise State .1978
23 TCU .1377
24 Iowa State .1139
25 Texas .0640

Still shocked nd gets the 4 spot with speakers vs Purdue and Michigan.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

It wasn't relatively awful. The SEC had the 2nd best SOS in 2011 behind the Big-12.

Given how dominant people think the SEC is, finishing 2nd to anyone is relatively awful.

Since you didn't mention which definition of SOS you are using, I can't respond further than that.

I will say ones based on "perceived strength of opponent" is yet another one that's wholly biased towards the SEC, because they get 5 teams in the top 10 to start the year.

[ApolloOne]

This made me curious, so I looked it up. Jeff Sagarin's strength of schedule rankings for 2011 can be found here:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm

Pasting only the top 12 (which are all the FBS conferences) and showing the central mean:

1. BIG 12 - 83.61
2. SOUTHEASTERN - 80.88
3. BIG TEN - 75.55
4. PAC-12 - 74.72
5. BIG EAST - 72.41
6. I-A INDEPENDENTS - 71.92
7. ATLANTIC COAST - 71.23
8. CONFERENCE USA - 66.04
9. MOUNTAIN WEST - 65.86
10. WESTERN ATHLETIC - 63.73
11. MID-AMERICAN - 63.53
12. SUN BELT - 58.85

The Big 12 and SEC are pretty close at the top, with a wide margin separating them from the conferences at 3 through 7, then another dropoff before getting to the non AQ conferences. So perhaps the word "awful" may be more appropriately used to describe the schedule strengths of that last group.

Edit: I should add that Sagarin's rankings factor into the BCS equation. Most of you probably know that, but I didn't want to assume that everyone here did.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Given how dominant people think the SEC is, finishing 2nd to anyone is relatively awful.

Since you didn't mention which definition of SOS you are using, I can't respond further than that.

I will say ones based on "perceived strength of opponent" is yet another one that's wholly biased towards the SEC, because they get 5 teams in the top 10 to start the year.

You would agree though when the sec loses a game people say "ah-ha see the sec lost", but if ole miss beats Texas or Oklahoma its "eh it's the sec" There isn't a universal standard ( which lets be honest there can never be in the bcs era ) which helps and hurts some more than others.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by supersix4

You would agree though when the sec loses a game people say "ah-ha see the sec lost", but if ole miss beats Texas or Oklahoma its "eh it's the sec" There isn't a universal standard ( which lets be honest there can never be in the bcs era ) which helps and hurts some more than others.

What random people think doesn't concern me. What concerns me is the SOS factored in to the BCS system.

One of those had Alabama as the 2nd toughest SOS overall last year(before factoring in the 2nd LSU game). That's absurd. Alabama didn't play Georgia or South Carolina. Their SEC schedule was about as soft as it can be in the SEC, and their non-conference schedule was just as soft. I will give them credit for attempting Penn State though, they didn't know that team would be nothing special when they scheduled it.