1.85:1 or open matte to 1.78:1

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I never said mine was the only premium set in town. But having spent a lot of time calibrating it to the correct greyscale, colour and gamma, the PQ is absolutely stunning and I like it a heck of a lot, and I don't give a damn what the reviewers - who are usually pro-plasma anyway - have to say. What, you think I'm lying when I say it's got no DSE? I've gotten rid of previous TVs because of their noticeable backlight bleed, or their DSE, or their terrible motion response (like the 1st gen Philips 21:9 set), so I'm not just settling for x amount of performance with my X9. And just as you can find examples of people having issues with my set, I can and have found examples of people having issues with the latest and greatest plasmas (yes, it's that darned IR again, among other things).

Regarding your 'concern' about my treatment of my former plasma, I did all the stuff you mentioned and more. I ran it in at very low settings for 200 hours, and even after that I reigned in the brightness because I don't like overly bright images. Whenever watching sports I changed the aspect ratio to crop out the logos (news channels were out of the question, bye-bye Sky Sports News!) and I regularly used bright screens on test DVDs to 'wash' the image after viewing.

After all that I STILL ended up with 2.35 bars on the screen, and if that's odd then that's simply because I'm mainly a movie man as opposed to TV or video games. And the screen itself seemed to become less responsive to 'whitewashing' after a certain amount of time - the phosphors will inevitably lose brightness over time as the gas decays - so it got harder and harder to shift any IR. When I did have the nerve to play video games for a few minutes, I ended up with a reminder etched onto the screen for days afterwards. Hadoken!

I'll happily concede that my viewing habits (lots and lots and lots of movies) don't appear to be conducive to long-term plasma health, no matter how many hoops I jump through. Did I mention how much I like my LCD TV?

Your entire post could practically be summed up by the following sentence from my previous post:

Originally Posted by Cevolution

Obviously both have their strengths and weaknesses, and each individual will have their own preference between the two.

Sure, there are people who experience issues with plasma, which I acknowledged in my previous post when I stated "both technologies have their strengths and weaknesses". I also wasn't the one who originally made mention of all the strengths and weaknesses of each technology (I only ever mentioned IR), or who implied that my tv is completely free of a particular issue which can be considered inherent to the technology, you did . I was merely pointing out that there are reports out there from other people debunking this claim of perfection. When compared with other LCD tv's, DSE may very well be close to a non-issue with your particular "premium" model, but the same can be said about issues inherent to plasma technology being greatly reduced in premium models than it is in the lower to mid ranges. This is to be expected, as these are amongst the reasons why we pay a higher price for them. Not only that, while discussing IR and burn in with the member I responded to, I outlined both positives and negatives, which I feel demonstrates less bias on my behalf. You might feel DSE is a non issue for you, well I feel exactly the same way regarding the issues you stated that plasmas have in addition to IR (and though I am aware that IR is possible, I don’t have an issue with this as it is so easily manageable for me). You talk about chasing "faultlessness" with your displays, but isn't this what many enthusiasts also try to do.

It's a little hard to take your experiences seriously without getting the impression that there was some user error at play here, especially when you state things such as "When I did have the nerve to play video games for a few minutes, I ended up with a reminder etched onto the screen for days afterwards ". If not a user error, then I feel you are greatly over exaggerating this to further an agenda, or like member Wormraper stated in a thread about Vizio tv's yesterday, perhaps you got a lemon. This just doesn't happen to the majority of plasma users from a few minutes of playing video games, a few hours on the other hand, yes it can. Just like with the previous issue of burn in from 2.35:1 content you stated you had with plasma, this is also uncommon, and again if plasmas were as sensitive as that, you would be seeing far more complaints about this in the home theatre section of this site, as many members do game on their plasmas, including myself. I just find it a little strange. Also like you, I watch a lot of movies, I wouldn't own almost 1400 Blu-rays otherwise

I think we have established that this basically comes down to personal preference, and there is really no need therefore to continue on with this discussion, which really should have ended with my last post.