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Ben_R · 01-29-2015, 09:07 PM

Has anyone see any of The Iceman releases on blu-ray? I have read the books and seen the interviews so wouldn't mind picking the best transfer available if there is such a thing for this release.

HD Goofnut · 01-29-2015, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben_R

Has anyone see any of The Iceman releases on blu-ray? I have read the books and seen the interviews so wouldn't mind picking the best transfer available if there is such a thing for this release.

I have the U.S. release from Millennium and it seems fine to me.

Ben_R · 01-29-2015, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I have the U.S. release from Millennium and it seems fine to me.

Will the U.K release from Lionsgate use the same transfer as the U.S release from Millennium?

Geoff D · 01-29-2015, 09:42 PM

My review of the UK disc is here, if you want to have a look: http://film.thedigitalfix.com/conten...he-iceman.html

In short: the video quality is typical Lionsgate shite, it's been mastered with the gamma far too low and there's lots of banding.

Ben_R · 01-29-2015, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

My review of the UK disc is here, if you want to have a look: http://film.thedigitalfix.com/conten...he-iceman.html

In short: the video quality is typical Lionsgate shite, it's been mastered with the gamma far too low and there's lots of banding.

I'll avoid this then

HD, I assume that the US disc is different to this?

HD Goofnut · 01-29-2015, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben_R

I'll avoid this then

HD, I assume that the US disc is different to this?

I would think so, but I am not certain.

infiniteCR · 01-30-2015, 12:56 AM

Black Rain

US version appears to be lossy audio and DE version appears to have a lossless track based on this page https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Black...Blu-ray/13164/

The Japanese versions tend to be really good and there is one for sale on Amazon.jp but I can't find any info on that one, anyone know if its a superior version to the US one?

Early Memphis · 01-30-2015, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by infiniteCR

Black Rain

US version appears to be lossy audio and DE version appears to have a lossless track based on this page https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Black...Blu-ray/13164/

The Japanese versions tend to be really good and there is one for sale on Amazon.jp but I can't find any info on that one, anyone know if its a superior version to the US one?

The Black Rain Special Collector’s edition has both English: Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 EX & English: DTS-ES 6.1 (24-bit, 1509 kbps). I’m not sure about the DD+, but I’m fairly certain that the DTS-ES 6.1 track is lossless - although I'll leave that up to more knowledgeable folks to confirm.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Black...Blu-ray/61956/

Brett C · 01-30-2015, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben_R

I'll avoid this then

HD, I assume that the US disc is different to this?

The US release has no issues with banding from my recollection.

Brett C · 01-30-2015, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Early Memphis

The Black Rain Special Collector’s edition has both English: Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 EX & English: DTS-ES 6.1 (24-bit, 1509 kbps). I’m not sure about the DD+, but I’m fairly certain that the DTS-ES 6.1 track is lossless - although I'll leave that up to more knowledgeable folks to confirm.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Black...Blu-ray/61956/

The DTS track included on the US disc is not a lossless track.

What this film really needs for there to be a definitive version, is a brand new transfer.

HD Goofnut · 01-30-2015, 05:09 AM

Updated Troy. It sure needs a new master.

Geoff D · 01-30-2015, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Brett C

The DTS track included on the US disc is not a lossless track.

What this film really needs for there to be a definitive version, is a brand new transfer.

Yeah, the lossy audio is the least of its problems, it's another overly processed POS from Paramount. The grain just sits there, frozen in place.

HD Goofnut · 01-30-2015, 02:36 PM

Added Capone.

infiniteCR · 01-30-2015, 03:20 PM

Ok, that's too bad about Black Rain, was hoping there was a hidden Japanese gem out there as sometimes is the case

wesslan · 01-30-2015, 03:34 PM

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Updated Troy. It sure needs a new master.

Yeah we need new 4k master! Or at least a new high bitrate transfer.

HD Goofnut · 01-30-2015, 03:35 PM

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Yeah we need new 4k master!

Did you see how bad both cuts look? http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...less=1#auswahl

BaerGriggs · 01-30-2015, 03:38 PM

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Did you see how bad both cuts look? http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...less=1#auswahl

Is the Poland Theatrical Cut and the Theatrical Cut on the HD-DVD the same master? I own the HD-DVD but I don't think I've ever watched it all the way through. It does look noticeably different than the US Blu-ray Director's Cut I own though.

I like the extended scenes in the Director's Cut but really dislike most of the soundtrack changes they made.

spawningblue · 01-30-2015, 04:52 PM

Police Story and Police Story 2 do have a US release as a double feature put out by Shout Factory.

HD Goofnut · 01-30-2015, 04:58 PM

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Police Story and Police Story 2 do have a US release as a double feature put out by Shout Factory.

Any specs on them?

Geoff D · 01-30-2015, 05:03 PM

They're upscales from Fortune Star, and there endeth my interest.

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01-29-2015, 09:07 PM	#581
Ben_R Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2010 4K collection:544 Blu-ray collection:2599 DVD collection:117 Trading Score:7	Has anyone see any of *The Iceman* releases on blu-ray? I have read the books and seen the interviews so wouldn't mind picking the best transfer available if there is such a thing for this release.

01-29-2015, 09:42 PM	#584
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	My review of the UK disc is here, if you want to have a look: http://film.thedigitalfix.com/conten...he-iceman.html In short: the video quality is typical Lionsgate shite, it's been mastered with the gamma far too low and there's lots of banding.

01-30-2015, 12:56 AM	#587
infiniteCR Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2014 4K collection:327 Blu-ray collection:1648 DVD collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:5	Black Rain US version appears to be lossy audio and DE version appears to have a lossless track based on this page https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Black...Blu-ray/13164/ The Japanese versions tend to be really good and there is one for sale on Amazon.jp but I can't find any info on that one, anyone know if its a superior version to the US one?

01-30-2015, 05:09 AM	#591
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Updated Troy. It sure needs a new master.

01-30-2015, 02:36 PM	#593
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Added Capone.

01-30-2015, 03:20 PM	#594
infiniteCR Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2014 4K collection:327 Blu-ray collection:1648 DVD collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:5	Ok, that's too bad about Black Rain, was hoping there was a hidden Japanese gem out there as sometimes is the case

01-30-2015, 04:52 PM	#598
spawningblue Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Hamilton, Ontario, Canada 4K collection:699 Blu-ray collection:5474 DVD collection:1776 Trading Score:109	Police Story and Police Story 2 do have a US release as a double feature put out by Shout Factory.

01-30-2015, 05:03 PM	#600
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	They're upscales from Fortune Star, and there endeth my interest.

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