Will physical media die entirely or will it simply become a niche market?

[KRW1]

Originally Posted by huskerbear

I think he/she is talking about digital movie stores, not physical. New stores such as these:

http://uvgrab.com/

http://happywatch-imhq.soundestlink....853f297fd0c31b

http://www.thefastflicks.com/

I use to buy a lot of UV codes from this site (blu-ray.com)but it's just seems more difficult than it use too be. There seems to be more competition for them, harder to find, and higher prices. These stores are easier since you don't have to follow and try to be first clicking to purchase. Don't know what the future holds but there is definitely more competition for UV codes now days....I tend to purchase more and more direct from Vudu to avoid the hassle.

Ah that makes more sense. I've never met anyone in real life who uses UV, I suppose they do exist but I think in the UK, people are more likely to stream rather than download to own or just use ITunes as it's where their music is.

[huskerbear]

Originally Posted by KRW1

Ah that makes more sense. I've never met anyone in real life who uses UV, I suppose they do exist but I think in the UK, people are more likely to stream rather than download to own or just use ITunes as it's where their music is.

I get it. People tend to figure everybody does it just like them. I don't know anybody who uses itunes....in fact I have never even been to itunes...go figure.

[huskerbear]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

I guess a question:

I buy a UV code what do I own? I assume I can't return it or it or sell it on the used market. If I'm stuck with it and can't do anything with except have it sit in a list forever (or until they turn off the service at their discretion), do I really own anything or did I just pay for a permanent rental of something someone else owns.

UV guarantees permanent rights to that movie.


Opinions will vary.....

[huskerbear]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

And I really don't know the answer -- so far I have never bought a UV code and though I have loaded most of my codes from my Blurays into an account I don't think I've ever watched one.

There is no way for me to off load that UV Rights to that movie or outright give it to them -- is that part correct?

In theory I guess I could sell my email address and password with my entire library though I'm guessing the legality of such a thing would be questionable in the eyes of vudu.

I think UV is still evolving. Early on I remember talk of making it so you could sell or transfer your rights but, I don't believe that has happened, at least not yet.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by huskerbear

I think UV is still evolving. Early on I remember talk of making it so you could sell or transfer your rights but, I don't believe that has happened, at least not yet.

Quite a few things haven't happened. Including the CFF and UV on consoles.

[huskerbear]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Quite a few things haven't happened. Including the CFF and UV on consoles.

I haven't followed close as I'm not that interested in downloading, but as I understand vidity is just the new wrapper for CFF.

https://www.vidity.com/

What consoles are you talking about?

[huskerbear]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Quite a few things haven't happened. Including the CFF and UV on consoles.

If you are talking about game consoles? I can only speak for the PS3 as that is what I have. I'm not sure how many UV storefronts are on it but I know it has Vudu because that is where I download my UV movies when I wish to do that.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by huskerbear

if you are talking about game consoles? I can only speak for the ps3 as that is what i have. I'm not sure how many uv storefronts are on it but i know it has vudu because that is where i download my uv movies when i wish to do that.

uk.

[Smackos]

It is a little ironic that for all UV's actual ability to view purchased titles across multiple providers, it basically comes down to only one decent Storefront and a bunch of terrible ones. For all intents and purposes for a lot of folk they might as well rename UV titles as VUDU titles.

@Steedeel - There currently actually ARE now UV providers on Xbox in the UK, but not on PlayStation. Wuaki and Blinkbox on Xbox One and also Sainsburys Entertainment on the 360. Not that it matters, Blinkbox was owned by Tesco who decided to cut their losses and sold it off recently to Talk-Talk (a small telephony company for our US friends) whilst all mentioned above cannot give both 1080p or 5.1 audio. There also a few of the small providers above on the Roku boxes now. Unlike stateside there isn't even Flixster (with UV access) on UK consoles, which really is quite poor when you think about it. That really sums up how badly handled UV has been outside of Vudu really.

[huskerbear]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

And I really don't know the answer -- so far I have never bought a UV code and though I have loaded most of my codes from my Blurays into an account I don't think I've ever watched one.

There is no way for me to off load that UV Rights to that movie or outright give it to them -- is that part correct?

In theory I guess I could sell my email address and password with my entire library though I'm guessing the legality of such a thing would be questionable in the eyes of vudu.

Early on, it was even cheaper to build a UV digital collection than it is now, and Iv'e seen people who must have more time than me do just that, build a collection, then sell it top somebody just getting started. The new owner just changes the login info after paying. Legal in the eyes of Ultraviolet? probably not but, I don't think selling codes is either according to the fine print.

[PCFan]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

I guess a question:

I buy a UV code what do I own? I assume I can't return it or it or sell it on the used market. If I'm stuck with it and can't do anything with except have it sit in a list forever (or until they turn off the service at their discretion), do I really own anything or did I just pay for a permanent rental of something someone else owns.

When you buy a UV code on the trading forum here you basically are paying Vudu HDX rental prices, sometimes even less, and I see some selling for more than Vudu HDX rental prices but I'm not sure if those even have sold at those prices, but it usually is between $3-4 for a UV code from a blu-ray that sells in the trading forum here. Unlike a rental, you have permanent access to the movie as long as the movie service is in business or the UV rights for the movie don't get taken away. So who cares if I'm stuck with the movie I redeemed from a UV code I purchased if I watched it at least once on my Vudu account, I at least got my money's worth. For full price purchases I definitely choose blu-ray over digital.

Personally I still buy blu-rays of my favorite movies and others at high discount sales and most of the time it's cheaper than buying a digital version from those digital services, and about half the time they come with UV codes anyways. The movies I buy in blu-ray are the movies that I don't want to lose access to if UV rights expire or service goes out of business. I still buy CDs because I want the best audio quality and I just rip the CDs and keep the CDs for backup and because it would be illegal for me to sell the CDs I ripped to my hard drive without deleting the rips.